and that's why i wish nellie had been here, nellie gordon, because she will testify to that. thank you. >> dr. ocho, you also have a rebuttal? nonen? then commissioners, the matter is submitted. >> i'm going to start. for the record, i am a bernel heights resident and have gone into the store. i would -- i could vouch for the fact i didn't know they sold cigarettes either. and i've gone in the store maybe twice to buy things other than cigarettes. but i think, and i have the same question that my co-commissioner peterson had about the odd look and shape of the new card and why it wouldn't cause someone to pause. and normally i'm very inclined to impose the department's recommendation on a suspension, but under these circumstances, i think many of the facts that compel me to think the situation is unique in that the child, or the decoy was associating with children -- i mean not children, but young adults, and the distractions and the effort that i believe the appellant made in trying to do that while running the store , to do the calculation of math, i can see that under thes