adviser john bolton who his attorney says will not testify without a subpoena, and joining me is nelson cunningham, and this is very nice habit, nelson to, see you. so we will get into this. we know that rick perry, the secretary of energy has refused to appear, and what is the prediction for the others who are expected this week? >> this week is a big disappointment for those who are looking for new evidence and new witnesses. all of the witnesses that you put up on the screen, they are all political appointees within the white house. either with the white house, the nsc or the office of management and budget, and the white house has made it clear they are preventing all of the political appointees from testifying, so each of the people are going to wind up declining testimony, and the one wild card is john bolton. he is a former employee and no longer at the national security adviser and no longer at the white house and animosity of what president trump and giuliani were doing with ukraine and he has an interest in testifying and whether he will is open question and i bet he won't. it is going t

joining me now, two former federal prosecutors, nelson cunningham and cynthia oxley.t, cynthia. what is your take on the defense we just heard that the president has made a public appeal, so either way, is it a crime? >> just because the president has morphed now from everything was perfect to everybody else tells me it's perfect. now if he moves to it was wasn't perfect, maybe impeachable. he does this when things are revealed about his behavior. if now it will be not impeachable, i think he'll find serious difficulty in the house. they have multiple witnesses that he hinged the aid, in fact, stopped the aid until he could get his announcement that the investigation was going forward into the bidens. interestingly, he really didn't care if there was an vefs investigation. he only wanted there to be an announcement to smear biden, like they had done with hillary. >> nelson, you're also the head at a global strategy firm that focuses on international affairs. do you see this call as a significant breach in protocol, something with huge implications for foreign policy o