skip gates's book was here next to nelson george, where did our love go? nelson george is perhaps the most gifted african-american man of the letters of our time. what can't this guy do? he is a novelist, he writes great novels, he writes superb cultural criticism about hip-hop, basketball, this history of motown, one of the earliest books to take a critical look and appreciative look at motown, he is a movie director, a film director, producer. the guy is amazing, one of the most remarkable men of letters of our generation, one of the most distinguished because he has mastered so many different genres. this book, the location of culture, than theoretical's but -- explications, postcolonialism, which is very important. he is a very sharp guy. he was in debt recently. he was on in-depth recently. i disagree with a lot of what he says but he is a very sharp guy. >> how many books do you read 3-year? >> a bunch. you have to keep reading. you can't stop reading. this is a great book. this is craig warner, higher ground, spv wonder, aretha franklin, the rise of

nelson, george mcgovern who thought they were not in trouble and if things didn't work out for their president, that they just not work out for them. and so i think there's been ever since then much more of a driven effort to work these things out because there's a fear factor there that i think was not there until that unpleasant experience. >> okay. so it's a given, i think, you come in, you do your best to pursue the plan that's put out in the president's campaign. obviously, cases are going to arise from time to time when that's not possible. either you have to back off or sometimes in some cases even back-track and reverse yourself. when those discussions came, what kind of problem was there that it was a campaign commitment other than those problems that would arise from that policy? was that a central -- >> well, i think -- i mean, my experience is that it varied by degree, okay? so if it was -- particularly, as those who worked in a campaign setting, though, i always thought about things that were our must-haves and things that weren't nice to have. on the must-haves, i knew,

we lost a ton of senate seats women lost in 1980 that nobody -- george nelson, george mcgovern, they had been there for a long time. members of congress began to realize that if things don't work out for their president, it just might not work out for them. i think there has been much more of a driven effort to work these things out, because there is a fear factor there that i think was not there until that unpleasant experience. >> it is a given, i think, that to come in and do your best to pursue the plan that is put out in the president's campaign. cases will rise when that is not possible. i do you have to back off or sometimes you have to backtrack and reverse yourself. when those cases came, how much discussion was there about the problems caused by the fact that this was a campaign commitment, as opposed to other policies. was that a central part of the discussion? >> my experience is that it buried by degree. -- get varied by degree. particularly those that worked in the campaign setting, the worm must haves and things that were nice to have. on the must tabshaves, the worst

. >> what about george straight and what about willie nelson? not make that list? that's just ridiculous. people under 30 were still kicking around in the sandbox when michael jackson was in his prime. i don't understand that. >> they know his legend lives on. >> and it will. >>> check this out. perseid meteor showers happening right now, peaked last night. you want to see them? just go out there in the middle of the night tonight. it will still be happening. you don't need a telescope. just go out there, lay out, take it easy. listen, looking at showers and thunderstorms that will pop across much of the mid-atlantic, piedmont and also towards parts of the south. daytime highs today will be in the 80s and 90s. seasonal temperatures i think is what we're looking at. that's it. i totally dispute that poll. >> who do you think got left off? >> led zeppelin's got to be somewhere in the top at least ten, if not five. >> not even not top 20. >> u2's not on there? >> both bands have great composition and longevity. >> and they have a nice beat, you can