and they had also been taught not to complain by nelson man della. ver a man should have complained about what had happened to him shall it was nelson mandela. yet he came out of prison and said we're not going to exact revenge, we're not going to have a bloody war. we're going to forgive and move on and we're going to be a country that unites. and that's exactly what's happened. >> and a lot of politicians can say that, but it will have no effect. and he actually has -- his cause and effect was brilliant. >> have you met him? >> yes, yes. >> when did you meet him? >> the first time i met him, i had just won the academy award. that was the first time i met him. >> what does he say to you? >> the nicest things that any icon or hero could possibly say to you. things that i'm so not deserving of. >> like what? >> just, you know, giving me credit for being a south african and putting south africa on the map, which i didn't, but i'll take that any day from nelson mandela. >> but it was a big deal for a south african to win an oscar. not any south africans