nelson mandela.was 6'2, he was handsome, he had a great smile, broad shoulders, he was magnetic, he was a mass leader." it was a very pragmatic and practical organization and they realized we need somebody who can take us to the next step. we need somebody who can reach an audience of millions not just an audience of thousands and that was the role nelson mandela played. >> rose: the other thing he had was some sense of what comes across here is the steel that was there. >> yes. >> rose: he often said to you that everything... it wasn't about principle, it was about tactics. >> well, it's funny, he had... that's one of the chapters, to have an overarching principle and everything else is a tactic. he would say-- and i'm going to say in the a plainer way than he would-- he said, you have to have one core principle. he had one core principle above everything else, an overarching principle which is to bring democracy one person, one man, one vote to south africa. to reverse the history of apartheid. to

"time" magazine editor, richard, collaborated, richard did, with nelson mandela on his big autobiographyhas a new book called "mandela's way,: 15 lessons on life, love and courage." i've been reading the book. it's fabulous. it reads with such texture. i feel better already as a human being. i'm dead serious. i love mandela. i got to interview him, myself, when he was released. this book is great stuff. >> thank you. >> i want to ask you about a kerfuffle. here's language from your book that will arouse anxiety on the right. interest on the left. and perhaps some -- well, we'll see in the middle. here you are comparing nelson mandela to president obama. you write -- "while it took 27 years in prison to mold the nelson mandela we know the american president has achieved a mandela-like temperament. while mandela's world was forged in the cauldron of racial politics. whatever mandela may or may not think about the new president, mn deal la is his true successor on the world stage. the right wing hates that because they hate it. your thoughts. explain. >> well, chris, the right wing has prob

richard collaborated with nelson mandela on his book.dela's way, 15 lessons on life, love and courage. i've been reading the book. it is fabulous. i feel better already as a human being and i am dead serious. this book is great stuff. i want to ask you about something you've aroused here. here's some language from your book that will arouse some anxiety on the right, some interest on the left and we'll see in the middle. here you are comparing nelson mandela to president obama. you write -- the right wing hates that because they hate it. your thoughts. explain. >> well, chris, the right wing has problems with nelson mandela. he was a terrorist in america until he was released from prison. he fought against an ally in the united states even though it had an apartheid government that discriminated against people. it has aroused a little bit of controversy. i'm not comparing obama's achievement with mandela's. i'm comparing that two temperments. the man who went into prison was 48 years old and his temperment then, he was passionate, a revo

i think you'll agree largely because of nelson mandela. >> yes.d with him in '92, '93, '94 that the country was very close to a potential civil war. this idea that he represented when he came out, forget the past, forgiving whites for apartheid, saying let's reconcile, let's move on. let's bring what unites us together rather than what divides us was something that he understood that he had to do as a leader, but wolf, as a person, he felt it. he felt bitterness himself, he didn't feel love in his heart for his enemy. but he realized as a lead tore avoid civil war, to avoid this kind of armageddon situation you had in south africa, he had to rise above it and project an image of harmony, of forgiveness and that is what he did. >> people always ask me what was the powerful interview you ever did. i always say i think it was nelson mandela because of the unique ability he had to get beyond 25 years or whatever it in prison and deal with a crisis situation so peacefully, so honorably, he certainly is an amazing, amazing man. rick stengel, thanks for

she said she was going to give it to nelson mandela's children's charities. >> reporter: the directorthe children's fund said there was no record that campbell gave the charity a diamond. she did make cash contributions that year and the year after. the scars in sierra leone have not healed. case of charles taylor is become watched here. the rebels chopped off his hand. to spare his son's hands, he offered up his right hand. >> translator: they raised the ax and hacked once. >> reporter: he is one of 50 victims that testified against taylor. >> translator: and he said put it. i placed my right hand and they hacked it twice. >> reporter: with with so much at stake, me kra farrow says she doesn't understand why her friend won't testify. >> absolutely. step up and do your part. i'm eager to see the people see justice. they need that. >> reporter: taylor's trial, which has been under way for three years. is not expected to conclude until later this year. prosecutors say there's still time if the supermodel wants to cooperate. >> oh, so much intrigue. we know you'll keep us posted. >>> whe

. >> talk about nelson mandela who you write about. o be obvious comparisons and certainly questions for mandela for what he thinks about obama? >> i saw him during the election, and it was before there was a nominee, and barack and hillary were opposed to each other. i asked mandela, who are you going to support? he's older now and he smiled at me and he went, i'm not going to go there, that universal symbol, you're trying to get me in trouble. i think he looks at obama as something very positive for the world. remember south africa is a place that almost had a racial civil war. the fact that nelson mandela is one of the greatest figures of the century is he averted armageddon, and he did it by preaching reconciliation. remember they were a majority that was disenfranchised. he spent most of his first year as president talking to whites saying basically we're in this together. there's a lot of similarity, a lot of similarity also in temperament. nelson mandela went to prison when he was almost barack obama's age, there for 27 years. he

character, leadership this is what your book is about, rick, when you look at the secular saint, nelson mandelathe book by saying is probably the one guy who is truly universally admired. if you were to summarize -- i hope our viewers buy the book any way, if you were so summarize what is the key to mandela to being charismatic and wise? >> the key was his prison experience. 27 years in prison, he went in as a hot-headed young man and came out steeled, self controlled, measured, and he understood the power of the media, even though he been away from it for 27 years. he understood he to project tolerance, forgiveness, and that helped prevent a civil war in south africa and unified the country. he was media savvy in a way that he learned so fast that he could become this symbol that became for all of us the symbol of unification, leadership that we all yearn for. >> anne applebaum, rick stengel, chrystia freeland, ross douthat, thank you very much. we will be back. you something aboutl osteoporosis you don't already know. it runs in families - my mother has it, and now i have it. so even though i

>> i had dinner with nelson mandela, thank you very much. >> did he bring you a diamond?the rough, a large diamond? >> no, we're not interested in -- >> we're told you didn't help the prosecution in this case. >> thank you so much for that. >> get up. >> apparently -- there we go. apparently, gutfeld, diamonds and dictators are a girl's best friend. >> absolutely. >> what about this? >> supermodel is like a small european country. all their lives are used to a sense of entitlement, and if you take it away they turn bitter and angry. every one of her violent episodes involves electronics. she is throwing blackberries and cell phones. i think she is a secret letite. >> i think she has to come on your show. clearly, she's the next -- has he never been on it? >> no. she might punch me. i'm scared of her. tough girl. >> and tall. we appreciate it as always. that is it for us today. please check out the website lauraingram.com to find out for laura's daily fix and find out where you can hear me on the radio. i'm reporting tonight for bill o'reilly. remember, the spin stops here

. >> why did you use a quotation from nelson mandela in your documentary? that because i believe education is the most powerful weapon in the world. it is the best way to move up in the world. >> what is the oecd? >> the organization for economic cooperation and development. it brings together the governments of different countries to sustained economic growth, boost employment, raise living standards, and help grow world trade. >> what is pisa? >> there is program for international student assessment. it is meant to provide countries with an accurate data about their education systems. >> how have the americans have ranked in pisa testing? >> american students have ranked average on the testing. every year it has been given, including 2003 and 2006. >> what does this mean? >> it means you need to work harder on improving our scores. >> thinking about your own educational experience and the community, what are some areas that are working? >> teachers at my school focus on creating a positive learning environment. >> what are some areas that need to be impro

where is nelson mandela and gondi to talk to us in ways that we can understand and communicate to the average person that they have got to give up not just their big stuff but their jobs, their chance for the future, dealing with things they want for their kids' education now because if they don't, three generations from now, it will be terrible and as you say, we are running out of time. the last to two things -- >> >> you have given a couple of challenges. are these best addressed by the great leaders by the top down? should we have scientists and top leaders think about them and be serious about them or are distributed solutions in order? let me p turn to aaul. -- let me turn paul. are we getting to a point where we need to look for solutions from different places, particularly from the bottom up and maybe slightly anarchic ways? >> societies tend to resemble the communication systems they are built around. corporations are the same way. in the 1960's, corporate structures look like mainframe computer architecture. today, they look more like networks. what is happening with global

she is the recipient of the nelson mandela award for health and human rights.he 2000 recipient of the national caring award which was named after mother teresa. and recently received a mcarthur genius award fellowship. upon her appointment as surgeon general by president obama, dr. benjamin received the unanimous -- that means bipartisan support of the united states senate. [laughter] [applause] >> who confirmed her appointment last october. i am honored and proud to present to you america's doctor, regina benjamin, m.d. [applause] >> good morning. thank you. what a warm welcome. that is so nice. it really is. it's nice to be here. but i didn't expect such a warm welcome. that is really, really nice. a nice way to start my day, although it started a few hours ago. [laughter] >> but this is really the beginning. that was a wonderful introduction. i'm glad to be here for the stakeholders meeting group. patient-centered care is what i've always been about all my life. and my philosophy. and so this fits right in. so before i start talking about a little of that, i

. >> why did you use a "from nelson mandela? >> i believe that education is the most powerful weapon you can use to change the world. i believe that educating yourself is the best way to move up in the world. >> what is the oecd? >> is the organization for economic cooperation and development. it was established in 1961 to help sustain economic growth, raise living standards, and help growth world trade. >> what is pisa? >> that is the program for international student assessment. was designed to provide countries with accurate data about their educational systems. >> how do americans consistently rank on pisa testing? >> american students have consistently ranked average in all subject areas on test every year that it has been given, which includes 2000, 2003, and 2006. >> what does this ranking mean? >> it means we need to work harder on increasing our scores or we will continue to fall behind. >> thinking about your own educational experience, what are some areas that are working? >> i think teaching the two -- teaching the t