or gandhi is so great and so forth and so on in my opinion is saying that he paved the way for nelson mandela is not necessarily a compliment because if you look in south africa the problem that the people of south africa suffered from was genocide and not you know apartheid which is just being apart from the ones who are committing the genocide you can look at the same thing people say well martin luther king was so great all problem there was also genocide and i'm referring to the un definition of genocide which is a 5 part definition killing members of the group causing serious bodily a member mental harm to members of the group writing about conditions to destroy the group in whole or in part and so forth and so on so again if you look at the problem of black people in the u.s. as well as genocide and not segregation and in the same thing in india so in all 3 places you have the images of mandela of king and of gandhi where the problems that the black people suffer from are is actually tantamount to genocide and is not oh you're all right talk from them meanwhile you know the exact same o

members were like of pack of wild dogs tearing at their prey the prey being nelson mandela only 2 members defended mandela's right to speak out found the retroviral only to what was the point made in new recording or these about that moment what is the power how does all take us how i belittle years is the past yes we have since come out of there and lie now doing way better than what happened in the families of the people who don't want some accountability and you're not going to get it from this woman who's sitting here tonight why because with her i don't he play in my presence they did not make me have the wherewithal at that time to understand even what the debate was about because this is one of the fundamental problems of the a.n.c. as a result of your history as a liberation movement the party loyalty and discipline and unity is always put before everything else and criticism debate is shut down whether it's on issues around corruption under president zuma or aids under president mbeki the party sticks together and doesn't say anything publicly about the bad leadership. you know m

the world watched as nelson mandela head of the african national congress party the a.n.c. ushered south africa out of apartheid and into a democratic era where our determination the beard. which it. can't be proud of. but while the new constitution guarantees equal rights to all after 25 years of a.n.c. rule south africa is now the most unequal country. critics say one common denominator looms large corruption. my guest tonight has played a key role in south africa's modern history. from a time fighting apartheid to her role as south africa's deputy president. and speaker of the national assembly. presiding over what has been called the period of chaos in. your son fogarty i now know the details. on a number of my name my you out on back such as the a.n.c. betrayed mandela's legacy will new president cyril ramaphosa set it back on the right track i made the house and i've come here to the oxford union to go head to head with a how successfully she thinks the a.n.c. transition from a liberation movement to a ruling party and whether critics are right to say that it demands

the world watched as nelson mandela head of the african national congress party the a.n.c. ushered south africa out of apartheid and into a democratic era where here our determination the beard. off which it. can be proud of. but while the new constitution guarantees equal rights to all after 25 years of a.n.c. rule south africa is now the most unequal country. critics say one common denominator looms large corruption. my guest tonight has played a key role in south africa's modern history. from the time fighting apartheid to her role as south africa's deputy president a.n.c. and speaker of the national assembly. presiding over what has been called the period of chaos in. your certain folks that i now know the detective on a number of my name my you out. such as the a.n.c. betrayed mandela's legacy or will new president cyril ramaphosa set it back on the right track i made the house and i've come here to the oxford union to go head to head with bullock and bet a scowl successfully she thinks the a.n.c. transition from a liberation movement to a ruling party and whether crit

members were like of pack of wild dogs tearing at their prey the prey being nelson mandela only 2 members defended mandela's right to speak out found the retroviral only to what was the point made in new recording or in these about that moment what is the power how does all take us how i belittle years is the past yes we have since come out of there and why now doing way better than what happened in the families of the people who don't want some accountability and you're not going to get it from this woman who's sitting here tonight why because with her i don't keep playing my presence they did not make me have the wherewithal at that time to understand even what the debate was about because this is one of the fundamental problems of the a.n.c. as a result of your history as a liberation movement the party loyalty and discipline and unity is always put before everything else and criticism debate is shut down whether it's on issues around corruption under president zuma or aids under president mbeki the party sticks together and doesn't say anything publicly about the bad leadership. you k

members were like of pack of wild dogs tearing at their prey the prey being nelson mandela only 2 members defended mandela's right to speak out found the retroviral only but what's the point made in new recording or these about that moment what is the power how does all take us how ability years is the past yes we have since come out of there and lie now doing way better than what happened in the families of the people who don't want some accountability and you're not going to get it from this woman who's sitting here tonight why because with her i don't keep my presence they did not make me have the wherewithal at that time to understand even what the debate was about because this is one of the fundamental problems of the a.n.c. as a result of your history of the liberation movement the party loyalty and discipline and unity is always put before everything else and criticism debate is shut down whether it's on issues around corruption under president zuma or aids under president mbeki the party sticks together and doesn't say anything publicly about the bad leadership. you know maybe rig

get you and other ministers in the libyan government what it is saying about why he supported nelson mandela well mandela was called a terrorist by the british government declared as such by margaret thatcher and her ministers was declared a criminal by many western diplomats and even intellectuals who didn't understand his support for his support for mandela who defected libya oh of course of course khadafi was very honest and transparent with us people who worked closely with him and he said this he said to us make no mistake we are being punished for what we did not just for libya but for what we did for africa and many other developing countries and around that we are paying the price for supporting in some mandela for supporting the black race for supporting real politics of revolution could duffy was happy to fight until his death he knew he had many ways out he chose not to go out he was offered ways out even by african leaders who visited him during the war but he said if he goes out the very ideas he fought for will die in his death. his ideas will live and i believe. the ideas and

somebody gave him nelson mandela's book to read which is a bit of a mistake. another person gave him graham ski's book to read which is not a terrible error both men having a terrible long term injury of graham skis succumbed to his. so. i don't really know him i magine you. well in the embassy julian explained to me that he knew every detail of every wall the saving the flow curtain the little straight out because that was his entire. environment for ye of the year he so you become intimately familiar with everything it's like the details on your own hair fills your world and you search for novelty but you can't go outside so the novelty was when i was visiting it said john bring me some food that i haven't tasted before so i go to the turkish restaurant turkish food then i go to the iraqi restaurant i get a rocky food and so on so that. is the interior of julian's life. of all those he is being. and the terror of the detained this conclusion of the detained is not mine it's the united nations working group on have a tree to change reporters live on more and

the world watched as nelson mandela head of the african national congress party the a.n.c. ushered south africa out of apartheid and into a democratic era where here our determination appeared as so certain which it. can be proud of. but while the new constitution guarantees equal rights to all after 25 years of a.n.c. rule south africa is now the most unequal country. critics say one common denominator looms large corruption. my guest tonight has played a key role in south africa's modern history. from the time fighting apartheid to her role as south africa's deputy president a.n.c. and speaker of the national assembly. presided over what has been called the period of chaos in. folks that i now know the detectives on a number of my lamb my you out off on back so as the a.n.c. betrayed mandela's legacy will new president cyril ramaphosa set it back on the right track amid the house and i've come here to the oxford union to go head to head with bullock and bet they ask how successfully she thinks the a.n.c. transition from a liberation movement to a ruling party and whether

billions of people his influence the lives of people who never met him from martin luther king jr to nelson mandela. spearheading the indian independence movement mahatma gandhi is often referred to as the father of the nation throughout his life he promoted the ideology of nonviolent resistance and tolerance towards other religions india finally shook off british colonial rule in 1907 but a year later gandhi was assassinated by hindu nationalists. well today not everyone seems to be enamored of the peace and tolerance i called danby's poster in one that northeastern city was the face work of 50 saying the traitor of the nation has also claims that of an urn with some of his arches were still in the editor of news magazine india today claims they act on the descendants of the same hindu extremists who killed. due to member that not. and some of his associates shot. gun the gandhi in the you are 948 the members of this not too damn good sic group who also claim to be hindus they have a very narrow notion of hindu ism they want to impose some very sort of. notions of hindu ism they believe that mark

of people his influence the lives of people who never met here from martin luther king jr to nelson mandela. back then the leader of india's independence movement where gandhi's often referred to as the father of the nation throughout his life he promoted the ideology of nonviolent resistance he's known for his tolerance towards other religions including muslims and jews india finally shook off british colonial rule in 147 years later gandhi was assassinated by hindu nationalists but everyone seems to be enamored of the peace and tolerance icon though gandhi's post in the northeastern city of ruins was defaced with graffiti saying the traitor of the nation there are also claims that an urn with some of these ashes was stolen the editor of news magazine india today blames the descendants of the same in the extrude miss who killed. a member that not. and some of the is a source shot. gun the gun in the you are 148 the members of this not poor i am glad to see a group who also blame to be hindus they have a very narrow notion of the wisdom they want to impose some very sort of you not ignore s

nelson mandela was never like, "to fight the oppression of apartheid, we will be joining season 23 oflause ) that's not a thing. and spicer hasn't only lasted this long on the show by turning this into a culture war. he's also basically resorted to election fraud. >> you can vote tonight 20 times, 10 times text "sean" to 21523. keep hitting "send." just text "sean" over and over again until it tells you, you have maxed out at 10. you get another 10 votes by going to abc.com. make sure that you cast your votes while the show is live on the east coast, between 8:00 and 10:00 p.m. if you're in central time, that's 7:00 to 9:00. and here on the west coast, it's 5:00 to 7:00. don't wait for the show to come on live if you're in the mountain or pacific time. vote between 8:00 and 10:00 eastern time. those are the only votes that count. >> trevor: all right, did you hear that? he just told people to vote for him 20 times, even if they haven't seen him dance yet, which is messed up. although, it's also smart. becasue you could wait to see his dance, but then how could you text the right numbe

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economics to peace notable winners include albert einstein martin luther king jr mother theresa nelson mandela and yasser arafat but over the years some have criticized the nobel committee and its choices laureates will be announced this week in sweden and in norway in an unprecedented move to prizes for literature will be awarded last year's award was cancelled after allegations of sexual misconduct against the husband of a swedish academy member secret juries select the recipients and the names of the nominees are kept secret for 50 years. there have been some controversies over the past 100 years of the nobel prize u.s. president barack obama was given the peace prize in 2009 just 9 months after he went into the white house mr obama defended the wars in iraq and afghanistan in his acceptance speech out of the $688.00 laureates in the science categories only $21.00 had been women last year donna strickland became the 1st woman to win the nobel prize for physics in more than 50 years and only 17 africans have ever been recognized most of them for peace and literature while some laureates work

about the transformative changes that we desperately need, i am reminded of a statement made by nelson mandela, one of the great leaders in modern history. [applause] and this is what mandela said. he said, and i quote, "it always seems impossible until it is done." [applause] do you all understand what that means? "it always seems impossible until it is done." in other words, what the establishment, whether it is the economic establishment, whether it is the political establishment or whether it is the media establishment, what they want us to believe is that real and fundamental change can never occur. [crowd booing] they want us to believe that our vision for the future is unrealistic, that it is a pipe dream, that it is simply utopian thinking. they want us to believe that the only reality that we can live under is the status quo. [crowd jeering] and by the way, it is not just republicans that give us that line. that is exactly what i heard on the stage of the democratic debate in ohio a few nights ago. [applause] so let me respectfully disagree. let me respectfully disagree with those who

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nelson mandela has been to jail. >> would you put yourself in that same category?n't know i would be considered as great as these people but, you know, my dad always told me, he said we're all going to die. so if you're going to die, die for something that you believe in. >> but some have changed their minds. >> do you regret that you had gone there? >> more than anything. that's obviously the worst decision i've ever made in my life. >> so you are apologizing? >> absolutely. >> some might say, of course he's apologizing now. he's in u.s. custody. he'll say anything. >> i think i have a real message. the message is that islamic state is not bringing islam to the world. and people need to know that. and i will say that from, you know, until the day i die. >> he served a two-year sentence for aiding and abetting a terrorist organization. he cooperated with intelligence agencies and is now free back in the u.s. warren christopher clark is back in the u.s., too, facing charges of providing material support to isis. if convicted, he faces up to 20 years in prison and a

that were unjust -- nelson mandela was incarcerated.people who fought for the the abolition of slavery broke the the law. the espionage act in defenses that have been brought against ed actions i think many of them are truly unjust and we will look book at this moment whether it is in ten or 20 years or 30 years -- i think you'll have a larger grouch people who will understand just what a you did was the real inflection point. so i want to thank you ed and follow-up with you and see you soon been a while since we laid eyes on each other and bring you my cell phone because i read how you were able to jerry rig your phone and turn off the camera and the radio. mine is tell l graphing everything i do or say -- right at this moment so i have to bring you my phone so you can fix it for me and all of you -- >> we're going show everyone. [laughter] and please stay engaged buy the book. buy the book for your families. if you want to make a point if the importance of privacy, push this book on to top of the best seller list. that's a way to make

about the transformative changes that we desperately need, i am reminded of a statement made by nelson mandela, one of the great leaders in modern history. [applause] and this is what mandela said. he said, and i quote, "it always seems impossible until it is done." [applause] do you all understand what that means? "it always seems impossible until it is done." economic establishment, whether it is the political establishment or whether it is the media establishment, what they want us to believe is that real and fundamental change can never occur. [crowd booing] they want us to believe that our vision for the future is unrealistic, that it is a pipe dream, that it is simply utopian thinking. they want us to believe that the only reality that we can live under is the status quo. [crowd jeering] under is the status quo. that real change is impossible. and by the way, it is not just republicans that give us that line. that is exactly what i heard on the stage of the democratic debate in ohio a few nights ago. [applause] so let me respectfully disagree. let me respectfully disagree with those who

it's a political elite that is represented by nelson mandela.hey identify the problems that will see in south africa and everything from political corruption two huge endemic poverty that will stand up to aids an hiv ease and the hot unemployment in south africa and the thing about ronald waters as that as huge as a functioning radically pragmatic was interested in the united states having sanctions against south africa which is something that eventually was successful despite the reagan administration and not sanctioning south africa and he's interested in real dialog and africans and not trying to do this whole idea of black people as the leaders and trying to teach the africans about their own independence and when we think about walter's and this idea of reparation, he is most domestically and globally. this idea is both wealth transferring and that is not just income because. martin is the king junior want to guarantee income which would not be enough because generationally, in that these wealth transfers from black labor was holding on and

and after that, they went to visit the widow of nelson mandela, and that visit was then followed by anotherome. we'll get the latest from hong kong where hundreds of people have taken part in a peaceful sit—in outside the school of a teenager shot by police. now to the sad news, peter sissons, one of the most distinguished news broadcasters of the past half—century, has died at the age of 77. he worked at both itn and the bbc. our correspondent liso mzimba looks back at his career. for decades, he was one of the countries of the best—known news presenters, watched by millions on the bbc‘s bulletins. good evening. it's just after five in the morning, shortly after dawn... he began his career as a correspondent for itn, reporting from around the world, before becoming an itv newscaster. he was one of the original presenting team for channel a news, admired for holding public figures to accounts, even in the most difficult of circumstances. well i don't know whether you've gathered what happened there... good evening, and welcome to question time. hejoins the bbc in 1989, notjust as a newsread

here you have two, if you will, ancient empires colliding, the turks coming into the realm nelson mandela caliphate. what's fluttering around the edges are persians, iranians. it's an extremely dangerous mix, and if turkish forces actually attack accidentally or, god forbid, deliberately american troops, that puts the nato alliance in real question with two nato members with forces if conflict. it's a very dangerous situation. >> sir, as you know leading troops before, what might this do to the morale of those on the ground in syria? u.s. forces and their colleagues, their comrades, we're talking about the kurds, have worked so closely for so long to accomplish keeping back isis, going back to the idea of a bush fire, wildfire, and it simmering and allowing it to burn. what has it done for morale? >> it's absolutely terrible for morale. i can't tell you the number of special forces operators, aircraft pilots, drone pilots, who communicated with me or to my contemporaries saying how can we betray these kurds. we stood shoulder to shoulder with them, we drank tea with them, we visited their

economics to peace notable winners include albert einstein martin luther king jr mother theresa nelson mandela and yasser arafat but over the years some have criticized the nobel committee and its choices laureates will be announced this week in sweden and in norway in an unprecedented move to prizes for literature will be awarded last year's award was cancelled after allegations of sexual misconduct against the husband of a swedish academy member secret juries select the recipients and the names of the nominees are kept secret for 50 years. there have been some controversies over the past 100 years of the nobel prize u.s. president barack obama was given the peace prize in 2009 just 9 months after he went into the white house mr obama defended the wars in iraq and afghanistan in his acceptance speech out of the $688.00 laureates in the science categories only $21.00 had been women last year donna strickland became the 1st woman to win the nobel prize for physics in more than 50 years and only 17 africans have ever been recognized most of them for peace and literature while some laureates work

when we think going forward there are many people would charge that breaking laws were unjust nelson mandela was incarcerated. people that fought for the abolition of slavery broke the law. the nest - - the espionage act those that have been brought against ed's actions we will look back at this moment in ten or 20 or 30 years to have a larger group of people who understand just what you did was a real reflection.for go thank you. i will follow up with you and see you soon it's been a while since we laid eyes on each other. also i read in want of your interviews how you could turn off the camera in the radio on your phone mind telegraphs everything i do or say right at this moment i need to give you my phone see you can fix it for me. [laughter] >> please stay engaged and by the book. if you want to make a point of the importance of privacy this is why it's on the top of the bestseller list for go thank you very much. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> with the because i don't have any other interest russia goes like this china goes like this. and they will be at each other a little bit

>> reporter: the couple here at this house meeting the wife of former south african president nelson mandelaa back seat with the filing of this lawsuit. the timing of the legal action comes as a surprise after a ten-day african tour generated a lot of positive publicity. according to royal correspondent roya nika. >> it throws a cloud over the last day of what was a really successful trip for the couple here in africa. >> reporter: in a stinging reproach to the media, prince harry said that they are suing the tabloid "mail on sunday" for publishing private correspondence from the duchess of sussex. there is a human cost to this relentless propaganda. i cannot begin to describe how painful it has been. earlier this year, the tabloid newspaper published an article about a handwritten letter that meghan had sent to her estranged father, thomas markle. harry has accused the paper of editing the letter selectively in an intentionally misleading and destructive way. indicating the anger and turmoil he suffered when his mother, princess diana, died in a car crash after being pursued by the paparazz

nelson mandela, they let him out of prison and he's going to be president.cial controversies of which america has, although americans like to self-identify as saying we're maybe on the right track or not as bad as other places. i want to ask you, given your -- >> can i just say, just a nod to dave chappelle. in that same special that's out right now he says if we really want to get gun control legislation passed in this councamera and says i want ever african-american to go out tomorrow and legally buy a gun. >> dovetails with your point. >> in two days the headline will be millions of african-americans arm themselves. watch how fast congress passes gun control legislation. >> that goes to the final thing i wanted to ask you about. your political crystal ball, you're not a washington type, you're not a pollster type, but people remember that you said, based on your work and your life, that you saw donald trump surging in the midwest, that you thought he was going to win, you made a trump movie as well as this gun movie. when you apply your political lens to

nelson mandela once said that education is the best weapon with which to change the world. today, this morning 51 million students woke up and went to a public school in the united states. each student carries a spark with which to light up the world in their future. unfortunately, today, given the realities that we've seen over the last few years, some of these students are at risk. last week was designated as america's safe schools week. it was meant as a time to reflect on the steps we're making to protect our children every day. upon reflection, however, one thing becomes very clear. in many cases our public schools have not been designed physically to deal with the student safety issue considering current realities. the consequences of this are heartbreaking. we heard this story too many times. parkland, florida, 17 lives. newtown, connecticut, 27 lives. columbine, colorado, 13 lives. these are some of the darkest days in our country's history, madam president. none of us will ever forget the terror, the tears, and the devastation that these and other communities have