happy rockefeller, nelson rockefeller, left her husband, all in our kids, dumped them and didn't have cust did i at all -- custody to them, married nelson rockefeller and took several months for that story to sink in and is t sunk him -- and it sunk him. >> the issue is not the divorce. several republican candidates have had divorces and at a stage where people are more tolerant of divorce in a candidate's past. i do think that this issue of his wife and not even the candidate we're talking about, it's his wife -- leaving four children. and i wonder whether mothers in the country, independent voters, republican voters, who have children themselves, won't find this difficult to understand. and we're looking really at the balance between character and political prowess. voters in this difficult time of high deficits, are they going to think we can overcome somebody's past, we can overcome somebody's personal foibles because we think they have the intellect and the courage to be president or are they still going to vote on character? and this is going to be a character issue. chris: nora

. >> rose: you worked for nelson rockefeller. >> i worked for his principal opponent within the republican party, something i don't believe could happen in the way politics is structured now. as it happened, both of us had come tthe conclusion... >> rose: although they would say the appointment of hillary clinton was some of that. you know, she was a principal opponent of barack obama. >> that's true. >> rose: but go ahead. >> that's actually correct. he... we both had como similar conclusion the conclusion was that when you... the world was in a kind of a cur mohel as a result of the vietnam war. the soviet union had jt occupied czechoslovakia. we both came to the view that the united states needed an alternative vision of world order than simply the cold war. and we did not see how the cold war could be conducted with the soviet union unless china was a part of it. but we had no idea having ce to that conclusion what to do about it. so we were sort of fitfully talking about it and on one occasion we found some dutch diplomat who was traveling to china and we sort of gave him a half-baked

was created that because i had been considered for vice president when president ford picked nelson rockefeller, and george bush, herbert walker bush had considered that we were competitive. so the myth came out that when he was sent to the cia, the senate said we won't confirm you unless you agree that you will not be vice president. so it kind of ruled him out. and i told president ford i thought he should do that, definitely not allow the senate to tell them who he should have as a vice presidential nominee. i urged him not to agree to it. the facts are that george herbert walker bush beg the president to tell him he would not be vp, he wanted to be director of the cia. his wife i think wrote a book and said he was thrilled to be nominated for that, and somehow the myth came around that i was the one who masterminded all of this and arranged for him not to be considered for vice president spent and you right in the book that he believes that. >> i don't know that he believes it. i know that the myth persisted. and i finally was tired of it and i wrote president ford and said, give me a lette