host: from 1964, governor nelson rockefeller. we are to phone lines amongst conservative republicans at (202) 748-8000, moderate members of the gop at (202) 748-8001, and all others at (202) 748-8002 . what was he saying then and how does it apply today? guest: when he was saying is that we were losing grip with a lot of the country and we really have to focus on what made the republican party what we were. when you look at a truly conservative party, conservativesm means reaching out. it's an inclusive term. it's become now i disparaging term. what he was saying is that we need to focus on doing a good job working across the aisle. if we do our jobs, then we will be taken care of. i think he was worried very correctly. i do not think anyone could've beaten lbj that barry goldwater would've been too far to the right and we were going to lose a lot of the middle mainstream voters you need to win presidential elections. host: how to we get back to where you think we need to be? guest: i think what we need to -- thenstead of focusin

what the remember about nelson rockefeller? >> he was a very charming man. he had a sheer force of personality and he was someone by again was not taken aback so much what the social issues were. in some areas but less so in others. the nicest thing about him was he really was someone -- and that is what the term rockefeller republican is quoting -- someone who is fiscally conservative and socially liberal. dave spencer, the founder of practically republican. a member of the california gop. thanks for stopping by. >> thanks so much for having me. announcer: c-span's washington journal live every day with news and policy issues that impact you. lawng up, the center for director olivia goldman talks about the proposed cuts to social programs and president trump 2018 budget. and just along from the center of immigration that he talks about effort from the truck administration to withhold grant from sanctuaries that he for their effort -- sanctuary cities. and we discussed the size and scope of the federal workforce amid the potential cuts to the force. the sure

davidl also be joined by spencer, nephew of nelson rockefeller and founder of practically republican. and david o'sullivan will join us, the european union ambassador to the united states. british prime minister theresa may formally begin the process to leave the european union. that is tomorrow on the washington journal at 7 a.m. eastern, 4 a.m. pacific. in the meantime, have a great saturday. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2017] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] , next, the house committee considering legislation to make president trump's tax returns public. then fbi director james comey on the bureau's role and cyber security. then a house floor debate to block the obama administration rules on internet privacy. >> this week in c-span cities tour with help of our comcast cable partners will explore the literary scene and history of chico, california. about the founder , the life and writings of pioneer. >> starting with days in the relationship with the united

host: he founded practically nephew ofs, the nex nelson rockefeller. we will introduce you to dave spencer. he is here at the table in just a moment. what is next for great britain and europe as brexit begins to take effect. , the europeanan ambassador to the united states, joining us later in the program. congressman than rate luhansk is our guest this week. he is the chair of the democratic congressional campaign committee. you can watch "newsmakers" 10:00 a.m. eastern. what is next for democratic leaders? here's an excerpt. [video clip] >> you are seeing a lot of leaders stand forward and speak out to the market people. elizabeth warren, cory booker, senator schumer, leader pelosi still reaching up to the market people. we still have leaders in the house. we have friends like seth moulton who has been speaking to the country. adam schiff, who has come forward in a responsibility to hold the trump administration and now the republican leadership accountable when we tould be working together get to the bottom of how involved the russians were in tryin

they should take nelson rockefeller or somebody else to unify the party.that takes miller his little-known congressman from buffalo, new york, even marcus surfeited and he is. goldwater at the time is fast by depicts miller and he said something like he paces off lyndon johnson even more than i do. but with the conservative ticket along with the process of delivering moderate liberal side of the republican party, so had john racing becomes a democrat with a republican, but also begins the process of the track to conservative democrats. the democrats and republicans to the republican and begins the process of reorganizing the two major political parties and a continuous and 72 by george mcgovern who picked the equilibrium liberal tom eagleton. the two parties represent pretty much monolithic ideology. they were able to work less together than they were a generation ago when reagan were put a moderate, democratic chairman of the house ways and means committee to reform the tax policy in america that we still live under today. the tax legislation in 1986. we

right, but the most conservative person in france, nelson rockefeller, remember he was a republican,hat's about as conservative. >> what's interesting both of these candidates have no representation. there's 500 people in the french assembly. two of them are in marine le n pen's and zero in macron. it just started in august. >> it's like new. they've got something off the wall. >> i know a guy who knows the answer. we're going across the pond. wilfred frost is in paris, he's standing in front of the arch de triaee jaap -- >> wild celebration at the headquarters a devastating result for the two main parties here in france. coming third and fifth respectively. the first time in 60 years that neither party will contest the second round rundoff of a presidential election. of course, due on the 7th of may. but this is a wake-up call for political elites across europe regardless of what happens on the 7th of may. and last night was close three, fillon and jean-luc melenchon coming in at 20%. by the way, markets are rallying. here are the main reasons why the polls got round one right. and

he is the founder of "practically republican," the nephew of nelson rockefeller. we will talk about the role of moderates in the gop. up next, dr. anthony fauci , director andas producer of the new documentary as "washington journal" continues on this sunday morning, the second day of april. we are back in a moment. we hope you stay with us. ♪ announcer: tonight on "q&a" -- >> it was everywhere in decline, nationalists were rising up. the big strategic question that the u.s. faced was should it support britain against the rising nationalists, or should it try to create a new order by mediating between the nationalists in the british? announcer: michael durand on his book "ike's gamble: america's rise to dominance in the middle east," about the 1956 suez crisis and the aftermath. >> what he is trying to present is the soviet union, aligning with the nationalists, undermining the british, taking control of the oil. we heard about the oil because it was 100% of european oil coming from the middle east. we wanted to make sure we had a friendly arab regimes, ever if no