it was really 180 degrees from the vision nelson rockefeller had had, whereas vice president rockefeller'sview was everything about the vice presidency turned on the fact that the vice president was the first presidential successor. one vice president mondale tried to do was the emphasize the fact that he was the first presidential successor and think about ways in which he could make the vice presidency and ongoing, substantive position that was not focused on providing a successor to the president, but in helping the president succeed. that step really change the whole psychology of the relationship between the president and vice president, and even more important, between the presidents staff and vice president. mondale simply wanted to be the general advisor and troubleshooter, where he would advise the president on matters and take on assignments for the president, but he didn't want to own anything. he thought if he owned a part of the program that he would alienate whoever was heading up that part of the program. presidents tended to give vice presidents relatively trivial matters t

it was really about 180 degrees from the vision that nelson rockefeller had had. whereas vice president rockefeller's view was that everything about the vice presidency turned on the fact the vice president was the first presidential successor. but vice president mondale trying to do was the emphasized the fact he was the first presidential successor. to think about ways in which he could make the vice presidency an ongoing substantive position there was not focused on providing a successor to the president but in helping the president succeed. that step really changed the whole psychology of the relationship between the president and vice president. even more important between the presidents staff and vice president. vice president mondale's vision was that instead of taking apart the government he would be in charge of, he would run and own, he wanted simply to be a general adviser and troubleshooter. where he would advise the president on matters across the board. he would take on assignments for the president. but he did not want to own anything. he thought tha

he liked nelson rockefeller, he admired his ability, he wanted to make use of him.wanted to make vice president rockefeller's staff feel welcome. he felt that the ford vice presidential staff had not been included and he wanted to make sure that wasn't repeated. yet it didn't work out that way. it -- at governor's rockefeller's request, president ford made governor or vice president rockefeller the head of the domestic council. and vice president rockefeller thought that if he was head of the domestic council, he would be too domestic affairs what henry kissinger was to foreign policy. but there were all sorts of problems. the domestic cabinet officials didn't want to report to the president through the vice president. chief of staff donald rumsfeld thought that if henry kissinger was running foreign policy and nelson rockefeller was running domestic policy, what did that leave for the president. and there were other problems in terms of this staff of the domestic council that had to report through the regular channels and not just through the vice president. and so

and again, this is very much coming out of, and in line with, nelson rockefeller. and aramco would incidentally build its model, in some ways drawing on some of the same lessons that nelson rockefeller would offer in venezuela. nelson was not outspokenly religious, but he was a man who longed to reshape the southern hemisphere in the image of christian democracy. he believed that his civil religion of crude would still meet communism's influence there and ensure america's place at the head of the new international order. indeed, big oils apostle's may not have worn biblical [inaudible] on their sleeves, [inaudible] for the sake of universal brotherhood and a logic of service. yet, however much they were drained of its dogmatism, oil promised continued to inform their actions. it's saluted -- solicitations to expound gods mounties from the earth with a higher sense of being. oils global topography's in this way became the theological plains. the civil religion of crude is one threat in oils religious biography. certainly vital to understanding the united states his

we used to have moderate republicans like nelson rockefeller, even thomas dewey. the party has been given over to people who just want the rich to be richer and anything helping the poor is called socialism and that is how i stand. thank you for letting me speak. host: politico pointing out the treasury department will be announcing enhanced childcare benefits kicking in on july 15. if you have a child under the age of six, you will get benefits of approximately $300 per child and $250 if your child is over the age of six. nytimes.com has this headline, job growth slowed in april modeling expectations -- m uddl expectations. -- muddling expectations. federal regulations prohibit people from continuing to collect complement insurance if they turn down suitable work. economists found little evidence to indicate unemployment benefits discourage people from working. at the same time, many schools and daycare centers not back to normal operations and have kept them from taking a job. millions of others temporarily laid off and say they're not actively job hunting becau

like governor nelson, rockefeller of new york. tonight he's demanding his party denounce segregation and extremism. >> the extremist feet on fear and hate and terrorist. they encourage this unity. the crowd quickly turns hostile. >> he started getting booed. it is frightening. >> the governor is entitled for five minutes. >> conservative republicans despise the republican party. >> the republican convention of 1964 turned into these fights. >> the governor has not had a chance to talk. he's been up here for ten minutes and he has not had a chance talk for about four minutes. >> we want barry. >> senator barry goldwater. wouchb>> senator barry goldwater. wo one of the most right-wing candidates. >> i think the mood of t the -- they'll not support the nominee of goldwater. >> that's not just any republican. >> jackie robinson is an american hero. the first black player in the major league baseball. >> there seems to be some concerns that former great, jackie robinson may lead a negro walk out of this convention. >> jackie, could you

nelson rockefeller. and get some ideas about what might be done to bring the vice president in closer to the president. and that was how the whole idea began and i think that's when he turned to you, if i'm not mistaken. >> you pointed him towards two vice presidents that had very unhappy experiences in the office. >> they did. >> that was telling. he did give it a lot of thought. mr. vice president, you said that what president carter gave you was the most generous gift of any president in american history. do you want to expand on that? tell us what you went? >> i would say the thing that worried me the most was, i was going to lose what i knew to be an independent position in the senate and that i might go down that same road that hubert and others went down, where they slowly had their dignity taken from them and they are not really involved in a meaningful role in government and it's kind of pathetic, what they went through. i did not want to do that. and i was not going to do it. so, when -- when p

like governor nelson, rockefeller of new york. he demanding that his party denounce extremism. >> extremism on fear, hate and terror. they encourage this unity. >> the crowd quickly turns hostile. >> he starts being booed in a remarkably vicious way. >> the governor is entitled to be heard for five minutes. he can't be heard for five minutes if we have constant eruption. >> conservative republicans despice the party. >> these are people who have nothing common with the community. >> now, look, the governor has not had a chance to speak. he's been up here 10 minutes but he has not had a chance to talk for about four minutes. >> senator barry goldwater of arizona. one of the most right-wing politician in the country. but, there is one delegate determines to stop the goldwater jug. >> oh, i think the core would not support the nominee of g goldwater. >> that's not just any republicans. >> jackie robinson is an american hero. the first black player in major league baseball. >> there seems to be some concerns that former great, jackie

like governor nelson rockefeller of new york. tonight he's demanding that his party denounce seg regation and extremism. >> they encourage disunity. >> the crowd quickly turns hostile. >> he starts being booed in a remarkably vicious way. it's frightening. >> the governor is entitled to be heard for five minutes. if he can't be heard for five minutes if we're going to have these constant interruptions. >> and so many republicans despised the wealthy liberal eastern elites like rockefeller who have long dominated the party. >> these are people who have nothing in common with americanism. >> the republican convention of 1964 turned into this rank fight. >> now, look, the governor hasn't had a chance to talk. he's been up here ten minutes and he hasn't had a chance to talk but about four minutes. >> we want barry! we want barry! >> barry is senator barry goldwater of arizona, the almost certain nominee, one of the most right wing politicians in the whole country. ♪ >> but there is one delegate determined to stop the goldwater jugger

is it the party of ronald reagan, gerald ford, nelson rockefeller and barry goldwater that could accommodatelition? no, it's not. it's a very narrow one, focused around a cult of personality. and history will tell you that cult of personality never work out well. >> i want to revisit what georgia congressman andrew clyde said about the insurrection on wednesday. let's play that clip. >> watching the tv footage of those who entered the capitol and walked through statutory hall showed people in an orderly fashion staying between the stanchions and ropes taking videos and pictures. if you didn't know the tv footage was a video from january the 6th, you would actually think it was a normal tourist visit. >> a normal tourist visit? that's clyde. here's what he was doing during the january 6th attack. he's seen in that photo, right there, helping barricade the door. so those are two different, big, s wide perspectives there from one person. he was barricading the door and now we just heard him saying, they were just tourists. congressman, what do you think is driving this type of revisionist histo

in the country but the republican party was still the home of many prominent liberals like nelson rockefellere portion of the black vote and many of those voters protested goldwater's candidacy. one of the most prominent of goldwater's black republican critics was also one of the country's most beloved figures, the former baseball great jackie robinson, the first black american to play in the major leagues. watch this clip from the special. >> 40,000 people, have of them negros, demonstrate against zbronld water. >> those who felt unwanted took to the streets outside the cow palace, including jackie robinson. at the heart of their anger -- the 1964 civil rights bill. signed into law just days before the convention began. barry goldwater was one of only 27 senators to vote against it. >> we are being asked to destroy the rights of some under the false banner of promoting the civil rights of others. >> historians say goldwater was not a racist, but most agree, he did not do enough to denounce segregation. >> goldwater must go! >> at the convention the racial climate is growing uglier. >> the ne

what happened to the party that could accommodate nelson rockefeller's views and ronald reagan and barry goldwater's views? now you're in lockstep with trump or you're out. >> here's the part i've never been able to understand. donald trump lost the presidential election by 7 million votes. this is the man they want to hitch their wagon to. why? >> it makes no sense to me. it makes no sense that 147 elected members and senators would not certify that election. that is almost as much afteren insurrectionalist event as january 6th was. >> does this help republicans win the majority in the house? i mean, i know that this decision and what mccarthy -- leader mccarthy is saying about liz cheney ingratiates him to the former president, but i don't know -- what's your view if this helps them get the majority back? >> well, i guess they've taken their polling and they think they're better off with trump than without him, and that he can keep members from being primaried and maybe give them enough of a tailwind to get them across the finish line. long term, this is a disaster. our party has self-

nelson rockefeller, probably the most liberal politician in america, was at that time a republican, as was barry goldwater. goldwater wins that struggle and becomes what becomes the right wing base of the party. and what happens over the next 30, 40 years is that that base is constantly fed, energized, encouraged, and it keeps getting more extreme because it feels like it isn't winning. it feels like what goldwater promised was the repeal of the new deal, then the repeal of the great society, and none of that happened. so this group of republicans becomes more and more extreme, more and more believing that there's some kind of conspiracy at work that is betraying them, or else why is what they want not happening? and republican leaders never were honest with them and they fed these fires and furies, and what's now happened is that radical fringe has become the center of the republican party. >> i look forward to what i know is going to be an extraordinary view of not just a polarized nation, but certainly a polarized republican party. fareed zakaria, thank you so much for your time. "a

we used to have nelson, rockefeller and gerald ford as well as goldwater and ronald reagan.tion to nixon getting a third of blacks, as fareed said earlier, remember, george bush got almost half of hispanics. we used to be much broader and more focused on solving the problems of the american people. >> so what happens then? what does this mean? how does this manifest itself? >> well, historically, personality cults have not worked out very well. they have ended up wreaking great havoc on the people they govern. so i don't think the prognosis for their success offers us a whole lot. i think we should stay in our party but seek the views that made our party great and made great contributions to our party and maybe, over time, the trump phenomenon will abate. if it were me, i would not be kissing his ring. i would be ignoring him so the abatement process could begin. you think about our globalism. we used to have a party based on globalism and trade. but now we have ttp, but we're not the ttp. china is. >> i want to ask you. we've had -- we had officer harry dunn, a capitol poli

we used to have moderate republicans like nelson rockefeller, even thomas dewey.he party has been given over to people who just want the rich to be richer and anything helping the poor is called socialism and that is how i stand. thank you for letting me speak. host: politico pointing out the treasury department will be announcing enhanced childcare benefits kicking in on july 15. if you have a child under the age of six, you will get benefits of approximately $300 per child and $250 if your child is over the age of six. nytimes.com has this headline, job growth slowed in april modeling expectations -- m uddl expectations. -- muddling expectations. federal regulations prohibit people from continuing to collect complement insurance if they turn down suitable work. economists found little evidence to indicate unemployment benefits discourage people from working. at the same time, many schools and daycare centers not back to normal operations and have kept them from taking a job. millions of others temporarily laid off and say they're not actively job hunting because

office, and by the way, mayor corning was mayor for 42 years, and truly behind-the-scenes, nelson rockefellery cannot do too much without the say-so from the mayor of albany, new york. what i noticed echo then, and i am relating to, you give a little and you get a little bipartisanship. joe biden right now, and i like joe biden and what is going on, you know, just want to say something. i am very big on the facts. let's review the facts. everybody that hates donald trump, and i understand why he could use a statesmanship coach, but let's think about the big board and the economy when it peaked in february 2020, and donald trump had facetime with no less than 24 world leaders, just to pick one when he steps off of air force one in north korea, kim jong-un, trying to pretend he is not intimidated with a guy who has the best economy on the planet, the strongest military, and every leading indicator on the big board. isn't this the goal? host: let's go to paul, calling from kentucky, on the independent line. paul, good morning. caller: i think everybody is asking the wrong question. why is it tha

nelson and david rockefeller's people who were close to the shah when he was going from country to countryobody wanted him, they pulled the wool over carter's eyes and made it seem as though the shah could not be treated for his cancer in mexico. carter bought that line and he was heavily lobbied by kissinger, brezinski, pillars of the american foreign policy side, " let the shah in," and shortly afterward they seized hostages. caller: good morning. in 1976 i was 18 years old, and since i was able to vote, i had always read the newspaper and studied and it did everything in my history class in high school, so on and so forth, so i voted for jimmy carter in 1976 because we had suffered through watergate. my father used to refer to gerald ford as the only honest republican. in 197 i joined the air force8. jimmy -- in 1978 i joined the air force. jimmy carter was my commander-in-chief. we always admired jimmy carter for his measured response. it was a totally different story once ronald reagan got into power. he loved it too rattled the saber, unlike jimmy carter. i feel that jimmy carter was