all right, let's take this conversation further now with nelson wong, the vice chairman of the shanghai center for international studies. joining us had live on uh to international a very well welcome to today nelson and thanks for jumping on so quickly. you and we love having this conversation. i mean, washington now taking it sanctions regime internationally. the last calendar, russia had over 15000 a sanction was placed on its people by western partners. now the chinese entities are getting caught up. you your thoughts if any of this will change or is just now just the full costs for the immediate future as well. thank you for having me at this hour, right? i actually don't see the logic. no. the lower that right to of the, all the sanctions because a off to 2 years, even since the beginning of the conflict to the us government. and together with this partners in europe, have a leased out over $10000.00 sanctions against russia. but look at what has happened, these sensors didn't work at all. uh, most of them, and i think all of them were actually meant to, to, to, to we can russia t

nelson wong, i believe so. patient was tolerate such a move. this is quite ridiculous because to the chinese, it's quite ridiculous. so how can you mean that you are being viewed? and as i tried to stop the sanctioning chinese companies for doing business with russia, because it has nothing to do with the, with china and russia are trading partners. and you called just say that because you don't like russia. you, you want to say good to heard for actually, so that's why at chinese companies cannot do business with russia. that's, you know, it's, it's not something that china is, is going to tolerate. i'm going to accept the trade between china. russia has already reached over $200.00 in philly last year. and it's, it's been going on fairly well and no way the chinese companies are going to be scared by this. i mean, this is not, you know, legitimate sections of that's why the chinese government has said that these are illegal sanctions because they are unilateral nations actually and finally, a real kid has successfully lost it off. it's uh on

nelson wong both believes that the restriction so far have failed to have the desired impact off to 2 years. even since the beginning of the conflict to the us government and together with this, bob knows a europe have a leased out over $10000.00 sanctions against russia. but look at what has happened. the centuries didn't work at all. and the 2nd late as a conflicting party because they are not new to the us. the united states of america is not a neutral party in this conflict. what right to do, but you have to stop sanctioning company using other countries or other countries to for, for doing business with russia. we are already in this 21st century. and if people can behave in a more civilized away and not messing up with other countries, internal affairs of business is least for ukrainians, a low to solve their problems with russia. we wouldn't most have arrived at where we are today. well, the most reasonable expectation is that these new sanctions will have more or less the effect of the last groups of sanctions. let's remember that russia has been the object of sanctions by the

that's nelson wong beam. so patient won't tolerate such a move. this is quite ridiculous because to the chinese, it's quite ridiculous. so how can you mean that you are being viewed? and as i tried to stop sanctioning chinese companies for doing business with russia, because it has nothing to do with the use of china and russia are trading partners . and you called just say that because you don't like rush to you. you want to, the, to heard for extra so that's why, at chinese companies cannot do business with russia. that's, you know, it's, it's not something that china is, is going to tolerate. i'm gonna accept the trade between china. russia has already reached over $200.00 billing last year. and it's, it's been going on fairly well and no way the chinese companies are going to be scared by this. i mean, this is not, you know, a legitimate sections of that's why the chinese government has said that these are illegal sanctions because they are unilateral. major is actually on. finally, a real kid has successfully lost it off on its supply emissio

will talk with professor nelson, president of the shanghai center for strategic and international studies, much to the delight of a regular participant in our program. professor wong opportunity read today's message from president putin. i read the translation into chinese, a brief retelling of his speech, so i know the main essence of what the president was talking about, in general, i want to say that the speech was very powerfully inspiring, it made a strong impression on me, that’s what, for the most part president putin focused his message on how he sees the future of russia, its further development? of this country, with regard to science, technology, health care, education, culture, and also, of course, industry, big plans are being prepared for the restructuring and further development of the russian economy , this, of course, is inspiring and makes a very strong impression, it shows that the russian leadership and the russian government are determined to lead the country further, despite the fact that the country is now a participant in a serious military conflict in ukraine , and yet, the leadership considers it important to develop the country, this is