throughout thisef nema has -- nema has worked with other stakeholders to advance energy efficiency where we believe it was justified and where the savings were significant. we've resisted regulation for the sake of simply doing something more when the stakes were insufficient and the stakes were too high. in many cases this has done its dou duty, but this is a high cost for our industry and higher price for consumers. a legislative overhaul that builds on the success of the last 40 years but allows us to all keep the energy efficiency economy moving forward is what we wish to support. we urge congress to seize this unique opportunity. thank you and i like forward to your questions. >> thank you, mr. cosariff. our next witness is mr. thomas eckman, the director of the power division of the northwest power and conservation council. thank you for being with us. you are recognized for five minutes. >> thank you, mr. chairman and my name is tom eckman. from the northwest conservation council. i'll start with a thumbnail of who we are, since there are no delegates here, it might be important t

members and an additional 30 products products contain components made by nema members. i have three main points i would like to make today. first, there are diminishing energy savings returns to multiple rule makings on the same product. that's not saying that we don't believe in energy savings. we're just saying there is diminishing returns on multiple rule makings that ought to be considered. future energy efficiency opportunities should include looking at energy use systems, not simply components or individual products. and lastly, serial regulation does over time limit consumer choice. first on diminishing returns. epka was written 40 years ago and many of the covered products have since achieved then unimagined levels of efficiency. several products have been through two or more different rule makings. and the epka statute requires the doe to determine whether standards are warranted on every single product every six years. this applies even to products that have reached the stage of regulatory maturity, as it were, that is the say the products for which cost effic

throughout this effort, nema has made constructive proposals to congress, d.o.e. and working with other stake holders to advance energy efficiency where we believe it was justified and where the savings were significant. we've resisted regulation for the sake of simply doing something more when the benefits were insignificant or the costs were too high. the 40-year-old model of regulating energy use and single products has in many cases done its duty. but diminishing returns are exacting an increasing cost for industry and higher price for our consumers. the legislative overhaul that builds on the success of the last 40 years but allows us to all keep the energy efficiency economy moving forward is what we wish to support. we urge congress to seize this unique opportunity. thank you and i look forward to your questions. mr. whitfield: thank you, mr. cosgriff. at this time our next witness is mr. tom mast eckman, director of the northwest tower and conservation council. thanks for being with us york ur recognized for five minutes. mr. eckman: thank you, mr. chairma

an additional 30 covered products contain components made by nema members. i have three main points i would like to make today. first, as has been stated, there are diminishing energy savings returns to multiple rule-makings on the same product. that is not saying that we don't believe in energy savings, we're just saying there is diminishing returns on multiple rule makings that ought to be considered. future energy efficiency opportunities should include looking at energy use systems, not simply components or individual products. and lastly, serial regulation does over time limit consumer choice. first on diminishing returns, they have written 40 years ago and many of the covered products have since achieved then unimagined levels of efficiency. several products have been through two more or different rule-makings and the statute requires the doe to determine whether higher standards are warranted on every single covered product at least every six years. this applies oven to products that have already reached the stage of regulatory maturity as it were, th

concern among officials outside of turkey that turkish officials, it they do not secure this border, nemaou are? >> we're in one of the areas specifically mentioned in that u.s. state department travel warning released yesterday. you see turkey's attempts at securing the border, they also have a built up presence accord the border, but that does not circumvent. and isis is a threat to turkey that is not just coming from those able to infiltrate across the border and those that turkey is attempting to plug the gaps of, but also the home grown network. one of those attacks you were talking about earlier this year is someone that is linked to isis. someone that did not come across the border. they were within turkey and able to foster that relationship and those links to isis in is having a really -- a real impact. we have seen it ourselves in that arrival hall. >> i want to go right now to mitch who was inside the terminal. where these explosions happened in the last couple hours. mitch, thank you for joining us. tell us about the scene. mitch, i don't know if you heard me, jake tapper here

once axel talked to nema and the police, they finally came and they pushes it in.rl. so i'm looking like -- >> how are you going to get through that? >> how am goig to get through this? by the grace of god, i made a way. >> and you got through. zblest of us d and none of us were hurt, thank god number bullets -- bullets don't have a name on it. so those shots could have fired into the dressing room at any time. but we heard, angelica, people had to hide themselves under dead bodies. >> i know friends that actually had to hide under dead bodies just so that he would think they were dead adds well. it's just a senseless act of violence. a true face of evil when you really think about it. >> when you think about going to a gay club, many times for those of us would are lgbt, it's a haven that you can be yourself. you don't have to hide. maybe if you're closet or whatever -- and so this is a safe spot for people, a place where people go and they feel comfort. >> that's why i work at that particular club. >> explain to the people who are watching. they may not know. the

and as we were walking out, the promoter, nema a good friend of mine, he signaled me over and offered to get me a drink. we were standing at the bar, at the corner of the bar. there were four of us around the loop of the bar. and we just heard some shots or what sounded like shots but we thought it was part of the music. we didn't know. the guy next to us said it was just the music. and then i just started hearing glass breaking and we knew that it wasn't part of the music. so we all hit the floor. and i crawled around the bar and underneath the ice well where there was two or three other people there. and just laid there with one of the other bartender friends of mine. she was hysterical and i was trying to calm her down. she was trying to calm me down. and the shots were right above our head. like all the bottles in the bar that were on the shelf right a foot away from us were just shattering and breaking. and glass was everywhere. liquor was everywhere. and then i could hear a radio, and i wasn't sure if it was the officer that was there, or if the guy who was communicating with an

let's begin with senior international correspondent nema elbarger. what is the very latest? >> well, authorities are working on firming up the details of the time line of the attack. local media are now reporting that it was actually the fact that one of the men was wearing a coat that triggered their suspicions. you remember, kate, in brussels, you remember the man with the white coat who was shown in cctv footage. very, very similar. police officers, local media reporting began following the man. and that's when the man acting suspiciously and opened fire and the first bomb was detonated not too far from where i'm standing here at the drop-off point just before 10:00. yesterday evening. it's from there in that confusion that the second attacker opened fire and ran into that ground floor level. that's the cctv footage we've been showing where that extraordinarily brave police officer flung himself on top of the attacker. the other line of investigation, the other two lines of investigations that are crucial to authorities right now, one is pertaining to the broader network

what is the latest on the investigation there, nema? >> really the main threat of the investigation, who else is out there. officials tell us they have begun the oofidentification of bodies. the last was so strong they're working with just the lower halves of the bodies and their trying to figure out who are these people. right now they tell us these are foreign fighters and that opens up possibility of a whole web. much like in the brussels attacks, they were delivered to the airport by a taxy driver that was questioned and released this morning. take a look at this. >> tonight, turkish authorities are pouring through videos and eyewitness accounts trying to piece together the most lethal attack ever at an airport. three men arrived by taxy at the ath tush airport. they stormed the international terminal. >> the attackers make their way inside, videos show terrified passengers and airport workers scrambling for cover. >> we were there hiding and other people were trying to break the glass and get out of the lounge. >> security cameras

nema which are two buildings on 10th between market and mission, the-if i can have a couple more minutes? the southern of those two buildingsnema buildings have no level access. you have to go about 8 or 9 stairs from the entrance into where the elevators are and there is actually a platform lift in a dark corridor which i wasn't able to fit in and this is a building of maybe 300 units right next to the twitter building that was built on a few years ago. more recently i came upon a building on 15th in the mission district about 200 apartments and you have again about 8 or 9 or 10 stairs down to a courtyard and from that courtyard that is where the elevators are. the only access for somebody with a disability is again a platform lift. that one i was able to get into but it was broken that day so the custodeian had to fix it but these are two examples i think are appalling multimillion dollar projects of highened apartment rentals where brand new construction, where they chose to make the elevator lobby 8 or 9 or 10 steps down from the sidewalk for apparently no good reason what so ever. i

let's begin with senior international correspondent nema elbarger. what is the very latest?s are working on firming up the details of the time line of the attack. local media are now reporting that it was actually the fact that one of the men was wearing a coat that triggered their suspicions. you remember, kate, in brussels, you remember the man with the white coat who was shown in cctv footage. very, very similar. police officers, local media reporting began following the man. and that's when the man acting suspiciously and opened fire and the first bomb was detonated not too far from where i'm standin

to comply with the law when they get the six years, i'd also point out in the covered products for nema, we know of only two times where the department has chosen for the cost-benefit analysis to forego the rule. mr. long: what are some of the challenges in complying with both the energy conservation standards and additional test rocedures? >> that's one of the interesting things that changed when we made the serial rule part of the -- i think it was 2005 amendments to epca. mr. yurek: you have to review the standards every six years. the requirement is review the test procedures every seven. what we're starting to see in a lot of our products, the test procedures aren't complete for the products that they're setting standards for. so as a matter of fairness, we don't even know what the test procedures can be and how our products are going to be measured. the information isn't there. and they're setting efficiency standards in minimum levels. the interrelationship is very important. we need to know what the rules are to be able to evaluate what those rules are through testing our produc

nema which are two buildings on 10th between market and mission, the-if i can have a couple more minutes? the southern of those two buildingsnema buildings have no level access. you have to go about 8 or 9 stairs from the entrance into where the elevators are and there is actually a platform lift in a dark corridor which i wasn't able to fit in and this is a building of maybe 300 units right next to the twitter building that was built on a few years ago. more recently i came upon a building on 15th in the mission district about 200 apartments and you have again about 8 or 9 or 10 stairs down to a courtyard and from that courtyard that is where the elevators are. the only access for somebody with a disability is again a platform lift. that one i was able to get into but it was broken that day so the custodeian had to fix it but these are two examples i think are appalling multimillion dollar projects of highened apartment rentals where brand new construction, where they chose to make the elevator lobby 8 or 9 or 10 steps down from the sidewalk for apparently no good reason what so ever. i

i also covered in the products for nema, we know only two times where the department has chosen for the cost benefit analysis to forego the rule. >> what are the additional test procedures? >> go ahead. >> congressman, that's one of the interesting things that was -- the change when we made the serial rule, part of -- 2005 amendments, you have to review the standards every six years. the requirement is you review the test procedures every seven. what we're starting to see in a lot of our products, the test procedures aren't complete for the products that they're setting standards for. as a matter of fairness, we don't even know what the test procedures can be and how our products are going to be measured and they're setting efficiency standards in minimum levels. i think the relationship is very important. we need to know what the rules are, be able to evaluate what those rules are through testing our products and provide information to d.o.e. before they start setting the next standard. the previous question, our products, it's a five-year implementation time from a standard being set