tiny, tiny group of individuals like that, but almost all americans don't believe in the kkk or neo-naziswent to war in world war ii to fight the nazis and to defeat the nazis. david axelrod, i know you want to weigh in as well. >> well, yeah. i agree with you, wolf. jeffrey has some arch comments there for our fellow americans, and i understand them and he's absolutely right. a lot of us misread what was going on in the country. but i don't think that all of those voters who voted for donald trump were voting for this. >> right. >> they were voting to -- for change. they were voting their frustrations. they weren't voting for this. so, i don't know i don't believe that. but on this point about his apologizing, we should point out it's been lost in all of the furor here, that in all the midst of this in the last few hours, he tweeted out or he retweeted from fox an intimation that he might pardon sheriff arpaio of the phoenix area, maricopa county who has been convicted of defying court orders relative to his abuse of citizens there, particularly minority citizens, who is really a symbol

i have condemned neo-nazis. i have condemned many different groups but not all of those people were neo-nazis, believe me. not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, robert e. lee. excuse me. you take a look at some of the groups and you see and you would know it if you were honest reporters, which in any case you were not. many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. this week it is robert e. lee. i notice that stonewall jackson is coming down. is it george washington and thomas jefferson the week after? he really do have to ask yourself, where does it stop? >> they were there to protest. excuse me. you take a look the night before. they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. >> you heard the president there at the very end of those remarks in that clip we just played echoing some of the complaints of the white nationalists who

nau neo-nazis heard his message on saturday. when he said there was blame on many sides. the neo-nazis posted it on a post i saw circulated on "the daily stormer." >> they appreciated the shout out. >> how do they feel about this performance? >> they probably felt equally well about it. because the idea that the president did not double down on the statement from yesterday, and basically went back to the about-ism. what about the left, what about this, what about that. giving comfort, if you will, in a sense to the rhetoric that

and you have seen the alt right and the kkk and the neo-nazis. in 2017, how the president of the united states cannot live up to the legacy of his predecessors, some of whom sherylin just mentioned. some of those who cannot stand up in the gop and others in the republican party, and simply call this what it is, white supremacy, intolerance that's absolutely unacceptable and un-american under any circumstance. >> there were plenty of epithets as well. jews you lose, chanted by the crowd, have you seen a rise in this in the last several years? >> the adl tracks anti-semitic incidents and document them. we have already seen an 86% increase in anti-semitic incidences. there were people who heard the chants and blood and soil, this was actually pltearing a page o of the nazi party. we don't expect to hear this in the 21st century in america, but what we are waiting for, is not only for the president to call this what it is, and reject neo-nazis or bring this to what he calls his enemies in the media, or the ceo of merck, it shouldn't be so hard to do

see what can happen when you give free reign to neo-nazis.s a rocky relationship with president trump said it is racist far-right violence and clear and forceful action must be taken regardless wherever in the world it happens. of course, the germans essentially saying look at our history, and don't under any circumstances allow anything like this to spread in the united states. all of this, christine, also of course becoming a diplomatic problem for european leaders. case in point being teresa may. she originally said this is donald trump's opinion. she was then forced to make a more forceful opinion afterwards because the public in europe don't like what they're hearing from the u.s. president at this point. >> all right. fred pleitgen for us. thanks for that perspective, fred. >>> president trump's comments even helping israel and iran find common ground. leaders of both nations scolding the president and condemning racism. in one country, russia, there is notable silence. we'll get to oren liebermann live in jerusalem. need we give iran a

but not all of those people were neo-nazis, believe me. not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue robert e. lee. excuse me. you take a look at some of the groups, and you would know it if you're honest reporters which in many cases you're not, but most of the people there were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. this week it's robert e. lee. i notice stonewall jackson is coming down. is it george washington the next week? and thomas jefferson after? you really have to ask yourself, where does it stop. george washington was a slave owner. will george washington now lose his status? >> reporter: the president's words today echo what he said saturday, when he blamed many sides for hatred, bigotry and violence, not condemning then the white supremacists and neo-nazis who participated in the weekend rally. he did denounce them ex flis itly monday, but today -- >> excuse me, i've condemned neo-nazis. i've co

july back then what did that have to do with you know fighting for the country's independence open neo nazis in order glorification of those who fought alongside nazis is not something new for europe in some countries those are reduced to underground cells and many others people with such views are actually in power or out in the streets from ukrainian far right nationalists openly supporting nazi rooms and symbols to marches in the baltic states in memory of members of the baltic s.s. allegiance and openly fascist golden dawn party in greece but all that rarely gets attention of the mainstream media in the united states just recently the washington post finally rang the alarm bells in this article suggesting that the far right in ukraine were holding the government by something no one wants to be held by and act with absolute impunity which does not let ukraine embrace the values it's supposed to embrace but that was the rare exception when senator john mccain and house speaker paul ryan tweeted out their gleaming impressions of meeting ukrainian parliament speaker would be the. man whose b

not all of those people were neo-nazis, believe me. not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, robert e. lee. you take a look at some of the groups and you see and you would know it if you were honest reporters, which in many cases, you are not. many of those people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. this week, it is robert e. lee and this week, stonewall jackson. is it george washington next? you have to ask yourself, where does it stop? >> you take a look. the night before. they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. infrastructure question. go ahead. >> does the statue of robert e. lee stay up? >> i would say that is up to a local town, community or the federal government, depending on where it is located. >> are you against the confederacy? >> do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office with regard to race relationships? >> they have

trump: i have condemned neo-nazis. i have condemned many different groups.ut not all of those people were neo-nazis. not all of those people or white supremacists. they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue robert eva lee. amy: on thursday, trump took to twitter to further complain that it is -- "sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. the beauty that is being taken out of our cities, towns and parks will be greatly missed and never able to be comparably replaced!" leaders of four congressional caucuses are now demanding the white house fire senior aides sebastian gorka, steve bannon, and stephen miller over their white supremacist views. in a letter to president trump, the congressional asian-pacific-american, hispanic, progressive, and black caucuses wrote -- "we are deeply concerned that their continued influence on u.s. policy emboldens and tacitly approves the ideological extremism that leads white supremacists to spread violence and hatred." now the anne

is it the neo nazis? no. why not? let's get after it. >> the car just plowed into an enormous crowd of people. >> people are concussed, bleeding everywhere. >> we condemn in the strongest possible terms this egregious display of hatred, bigotry and violence on many sides. >> i understand what he meant by both sides. america is being moved into chaos by people on both sides. >> both sides are not using isis tactics, mowing people down with cars in the streets of america. >> the suspect appeared to be infatuated with nazi prop gan darks even in high school. >> we have no tolerance for hate and violence by white supremacists. >> we need the president to determine in this country that this will not be accepted, period. >> this is "new day" with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. >> good morning and welcome to your "new day." alisyn is off, poppy harlow joins me. president trump refused to condemn hate groups by name, and that continues. he's up this morning. he's tweeting, but not talking about this. republicans and democra

in creating once again an equivalence between the neo-nazi and people who came to protest what the neo-nazis are saying, you know, it's just so unacceptable to masses of people in this country. i'm shocked that i went back there. but anderson, the bigger question for me, the harder one that is more worrisome is what's going on inside donald trump? this is a man with such massive insecurities. we haven't seen anybody in the white house with such massive insecurities since richard nixon. increasingly people feel he's posing a danger -- not just to his party but to the country. and you know, he's going to tear us apart. >> you really think he poses a danger to the country? >> this is a tough tough night. >> what's that? >> that's a strong statement for someone who worked for both republicans and democrats in the white house. i really believe donald trump is posing a danger to the country? >> i believe when i worked for richard nixon, ultimately he needed to leave office just as most of my colleagues at the nixon white house. we thought he was posing a threat given did the violation of the laws.

and in berlin, germany, hundreds gathered at the brandenburg gate to protest against neo-nazi groups. this is one of the demonstrators. >> i am here because i'm against nazis. my grandfather fought against nazis and the second world war, and i think it is a disgrace the donald trump is nonot against nazis. amy: presidentnt trump grew increasingly isolated wednesday for repeatedly blaming both sides for last weekend's violence in charlottesville, as lawmakers, generals and prominent republicans separated their positions from trump by condemning white nationalists and neo-nazis. in a statement, former presidents george h.w. and george w. bush said -- "america must always reject racial bigotry, anti-semitism, and hatred in all forms." their statement came as president trump disbanded a pair of business advisory councils wednesday as more ceo's exited the groups in protest of trump's failure to fully condemn white nationalists. after the heads of 3m and the campbell soup company became the latest to resign wednesday, trump tweeted -- "rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of

people. >> self-proclaimed neo-nazis.'s a mystery who they were. what we don't know if this individual james alex fields was one of them. ted cruz calling for a doj investigation. interesting what his motivations are there. we'll talk about that perhaps later. james, we got another interesting statement from admiral james richardson. he's the chief of naval operations. what makes this interesting is this is a military officer, someone in the chain of command. not someone who makes political statements. he called the events. charlottesville shameful abunacceptable. he said the navy will forever stand against intolerance and hatred. you're someone who worked for the federal government. again, you wouldn't make a political statement, but i suppose calling these crimes hateful and shameful should be political. >> i mean, john, you have to look at it from this perspective. calling it white nagsism nationalism is a benign euphemism. this group's origins are in hate. we start with that. what disturbed me was noticing how this gr

i've condemned neo nazis, many different groups, but not all of those people were neo nazis, believe me. not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, robert e. lee. so this week it's robert e. lee. i noticed that stonewall jackson is coming down. is it george washington next week and is it thomas jefferson the week after? you have to ask yourself where does it stop? >> do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office. >> i think they've gotten better -- they've been frayed for a long time. you can ask president obama about that because he made speeches about it. i believe the fact that i brought in, it will be soon, millions of jobs. you see where companies are moving back into our country. i think that's going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations. what i'm saying is this, you had a group on one side and a group on the other. they came at each other with clubs, and it was vicious and horrible and it was a horrible thing to watch, but there

this is from an infamous neo-nazi website. "trump comments were good. he said he loves us all. also refused to answer a question about white national ists supporting him. when asked to condemn, he just walked out of the room. really, really good. god bless him." mr. bossart, that is a neo-nazi website celebrating how unequivocal and vague the president of the united states was. are you willing to concede that president trump was not clear enough and specifically condemning white supremacy? >> no, you know, the word of the ignorant bear little with me and should bear less with you and the media. fortunately, they don't. what i would say is that the president not only condemned the violence and stood up at a time and a moment when calm was necessary and didn't dignify the names of these groups of people. but, rather, addressed the fundamental issue. so, jake, what you need to focus on is the rest of his statement. the president didn't just call for human beings to respect one another which is his fundamental bare minimum but for americans to love one another. for all of god's chi

a neo-nazi web site even celebrated the president's remarks as, quote, really good. now the white house is trying to clarify the president's remark. one official said the president said strongly in his statement yesterday that he tha he condemns all forms of violence, bigotry and hatred that includes, white supremacists, kkk, neo-nazi and all extremist groups he called for national unity and bringing all americans together. >> that statement comes from an official at the white house who asked not to have his or her name revealed. many critics are pushing the president himself to say the words. our sara sidener spoke with wolf blitzer about these white nationalist and what they expect to gain. >> they support white supremacists ideologies which makes them white supremacists, some openly use racial slurs, others claim they are nonviolent organizations then you have other categories like the kkk the neo-nazi. the neo-confederates. there's groups that talk about white history, european history is the sole history people learn and can be proud of. i do want to talk about

i've heard the argument that there were other fine people there that weren't associated with the neo nazise with swastikas, you know, yelling nazi slogans, "fine people" get out of dodge, you don't stick around to see what happens. so unfortunately, i don't buy the argument that somehow fine people got caught up in this. i'm not buying it, and we need to call it for what it is. and then move on with policy issues to make a difference. here's the fundamental thing. we've got anarchists, we talk about alt-left and alt-right. we've got anarchisnarchists, wh flavor they are, whatever they're trying to do, and we've allowed that, because we haven't moved this country forward. >> but to move forward, like you want to do, you have to get past where the president continues to remain. this was the third try of trying to clean it up, and this is what he said on this thursday try. it was not -- it does not seen as you've made clear for you to send this tweet at the president, and more broadly, and more widely. why haven't your leaders, like paul ryan and mitch mcconnell, done the same thing? >> well,

but not all of those people were neo-nazis. believe me. not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue of robert e. lee. this week it's robert e. lee. i notice that stone wall jackson is coming down. i wonder, is it george washington next week and is it thomas jefferson the week after. you have to ask yourself where does it stop? >> reporter: do you think things have gotten worse or better since you took office? >> i think they've gotten better or the same -- look, they've been frayed for a long time. you can ask president obama about that. he'd make speeches about it. but i believe that the fact that i brought in -- it will be soon, millions of jobs. you see where companies are moving back into our country, i think that's going to have a tremendous positive impact on race relations. what i'm saying is this. you had a group on one side and you had a group on the other, and they came at each other with clubs. it was vicious and horrible

i've condemned neo nazis.'ve condemned many different groups, but not all of those people were neo-nazis, believe me. not all of those people were white supremacists. >> a defiant president trump lays bear his true views of the events of charlotteville that left a girl dead and a nation stunned. >> reaction pouring in from tap toll hill to mainstream across america with fears an aggressive opinions on trump's world. memorial is permanently defaced. >> driving rains cause manhole covers to shoot sky warld. >> "early today" starts now. >> hello. i'm phillip mena. >> great being with you. i'm frances rivera. it was one of the most engrossing and head-shaking moments in political history, the president of the united states reigniting a firestorm, unnerving many across the country in national headlines as fake president from chicago central tribune. mr. trump painted them as victims of what he clibld as club wielding victims of the at-left, blurring the line in who is to blame. this morning the chicago sun times ed

the neo—nazis started this thing in cha rlottesville. neo—nazis started this thing in charlottesvilleup but you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. you had people, on both sides. you had people in that group, excuse me, excuse me, i saw the same pictures as you did. you had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very important statue, and the renaming ofa important statue, and the renaming of a park from robert e lee to another name. white nationalists? was george washington a slave owner? will george washington now loses status? excuse me? are we going to ta ke status? excuse me? are we going to take down the statues to george washington? how about thomas jefferson? do you like him? good. we going to take down the study because he was a major slave owner. will we ta ke he was a major slave owner. will we take down his statue? you know what, it's fine. you're changing history, changing culture and you had people and i'm not talking about the neo—nazis and the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally but

charlottesville is that we have somebody who is stepping up in order to run block and tackle for neo-nazi, white supremacists, and the kkk. they are on a different moral plane than any other group. we can all agree that nazi's are evil scum of the earth. >> heather: absolutely, no argument there. thank you both for joining us. a very difficult topic to discuss. thank you. we'll be right back. ♪harry's meeting clients... ♪...from far away. but they only see his wrinkles.♪ ♪he's gotta play it cool to seal the deal.♪ ♪better find a way to smooth things over.♪ ♪if only harry used some... ♪...bounce, to dry. ♪yeah! ♪he would be a less wrinkly, and winning at life.♪ >> heather: breaking on the north korea crisis with russia warning against further sanctions on the rogue nation as china calls on the u.s. and north korea to calm the angry rhetoric. after kim jong un delayed for now a proposed attack on the u.s. territory of guam. president trump tweeting today, kim jong un of north korea made a very wise and well reasoned decision. the alternative would have been both catastrophic and unacceptabl

but not all of those people were neo-nazis, believe me. not all of those people were white supremacists, by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, robert e. lee. you look at some of the groups and you see -- you know it if you are honest reporters, which in many cases you are not. but many of the people were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. this week it's lee. i noticed that stonewall jackson is coming down. is it george washington next week and jefferson the week after? you have to ask yourself, where does it stop. but they were there to protest -- excuse me. you take a look the night before. they were there to protest the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. infrastructure question. go ahead. >> the statue of robert e. lee stay up? >> i would say that's up to a eck lo local town, government, community, depending on where it's located. >> how concerned are you about race relations in america? do you think things have gotten better or wors

this is a neo-nazi website.nts were good, he didn't attack us, he just said the nation should come together. he said that we need to study why people are so angry and implied there was hate on both sides. so he implied -- there was virtually no counter signaling of us at all. he said he loves us all, also refused to answer a question about white nationalists supporting him. when asked to congress dem, he walked out of the room, really really good, god bless him. andrei, if neo-nazis are celebrating what the president said, did he say the right thing? >> look, anybody can take what the president says and make it what they ought to. there are dangerous people, as we saw yesterday, but just because they took -- extrapolated certain words the president said and tried to push it for their cause, they're probably trying to gain more people to get active in the cause, maybe people that support trump that would think this person otherwise wouldn't read his message, but because he tied it in with something the president

that's how neo-nazis see trump. they're clapping and saying he's giving us a thumbs up. >> actually, they're clapping for you because you're buying into it. >> take it back. >> you just gave them a platform and read their entire message -- >> no, i didn't. you should see their message. their message is strong and goes out to hundreds of thousands of people. their platform exists -- >> the idea -- >> for the record, she didn't say the twitter account or the name. i am telling you that this is how white supremacists and neo-nazis are reading the president's comments? >> no, they're not. >> how do you know? >> i don't. >> i've spent time with them. this past week. >> i'm glad you spent time with racists. anderson, i'd like to comment here. >> i'm interested in what they think and what they're saying so we can learn how to try and change minds and bring people together. >> that's great. i'm proud you talked to racists. this is the point i've been trying to make. nobody lets me talk on this show or panel. the point is th

not all of whom he said were neo nazis or white supremacists. it's as if this video never existed. [ chanting "jews will not replace us" ] >> elly reed was in the middle of that and joins us now. thanks for being with us. you were at this tiki torch march. explain what you saw and the chants you heard. >> reporter: the most striking thing is how well organized it was. he sees friday's torch-it will march as full of good people, quietly protesting. not all of whom he said were neo nazis or white supremacists. it's as if this video never existed. [ chanting "jews will not replace us" ] >> elly reed was in the middle of that and joins us now. thanks for being with us. you were at this tiki torch march. explain what you saw and the chants you heard. >> reporter: the most striking thing is how well organized it was. there are people doing crowd control, there was security. people handing out extra tiki torches. everyone who was there knew exactly what they were signing up for. >> when you say there was security, you mean security by the neo nazis, by

and creating an equivalence between the neo nazis and people who came to protest what the neo nazis are saying. it's just so unacceptable to the masses of people in this country. i'm shocked he went back there. but anderson, the bigger question for me, the harder question that is more worrisome is what is going on inside donald trump? this is a man with such massive insecurities. we have not seen anybody in the white house with such massive insecurities since richard nixon. people are increasingly feeling that he's not just a danger to his party but the country. he's going to tear us apart. >> do you really think he poses a danger to the country? i mean, that's a strong statement. you really believe the president of the united states, donald trump, is posing a danger to the country? >> i believe when i worked for richard nixon he needed to leave office, just as most of my colleagues did. we thought he was posing a threat, given the violation of the laws. you simply couldn't do that. i don't think we're there yet with donald trump. but i do think there is an issue about his insecurities

there's no one, save for neo-nazis themselves, who defend neo-nazis. so, whether it's republicans in leadership, business leaders, name another group, it's not a difficult thing to go out and say, no, we don't see this. >> i hear you. i'm pressing you. i'm curious what you think. because even the senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, according to manu raju's reporting, he has said privately that he is upset with the president over how he's handled charlottesville but he doesn't want to say it publicly. he's afraid of how it may be received because of the public spat between the two of them. >> that's cowardly. >> that's where i'm going. because he isn't saying this publicly, and if you're saying it's not a huge deal that these -- >> i didn't say it's not a huge deal. i said it's important for elected leaders, whether it's paul ryan or john mccain or orrin hatch or mitch mcconnell to denounce this. i think it's less important to denounce donald trump in particular, but not doing so is cowardly. >> do you think they should? >> that's a coward's positi

the other thing officials here are keeping close tabs on is whether or not neo nazi groups and white nationalists have become intrigued by the statue. so far no evidence of that. >> ed, great to see you. thanks for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. >>> good evening. tonight we're told that president trump has no regrets. no regrets about what he said yesterday. no regrets about putting neo nazis and members of the kkk on the same memorial meplane as th people that showed up to protest them. no regrets with comparing george washington and robert e. lee. tonight, we're told donald trump has no regrets about saying this. >> not all of those people were white supremacists by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of a statue, robert e. lee. there were people in that rally, and i looked the night before, if you look, there were people protesting very quietly. the taking down of the statue of robert e. lee. i'm sure in that group there were some bad once. the following day it looked like they had some rough, bad team. neo nazis, white nation

trump: i have condemned neo-nazis. i have condemned the different groups, but not all of those people were neo-nazis. believe me. not all of those people were white supremacist brainy stretch. those people were also there because they wanted to protest the taking down of the statue robert e. lee. amy: also on tuesday, president trump retweeted a cartoon showing a train running over a human figure with cnn's logo over its face with the caption -- "nothing can stop the #trumptrain!!" trump deleted the tweet several minutes after posting it. trump's tweet drew immediate comparisons to the killing of 32-year-old activist heather heyer, who was struck by a car saturday driven by neo-nazi james fields, jr. mourners are gathered today for heather heyer' is funeral. meanwhile, more by zurich council stepped down in protest of trump's failure to fully and whiteo-nazis nationalists. the heads of the afl-cio and alliance for american manufacturing joined the ceos of under armour, intel, and merck who resigned earlier this week. m

the teacher said he was a neo-nazi supporter. just because he told his mother that, i wouldn't say that that in fact is where he thought he was going at all. >> fair point. tara, does it bother you that the president's name has come up among some of the people at that rally, including david duke in. >> absolutely. this isn't news. we knew that neo-nazi and white supremacists had full support of donald trump a year and a half ago when the whole kerfuffle over trump not denouncing david duke came up in february of 2016. this isn't news. so this whole circuitous logic that my friend andre is trying to put forth hereing is ridiculous. first of all, if the guy was a domestic terrorist, what he committed was an act of domestic terrorism. now. >> no question. >> was it pre-med taed? i'm not sure. if this had been a plus him and he used his car as a weapon, we would have no problem, the president of the united states would have been firing away on twitter condemning this and calling this exactly what it was. donald trump has no problem g

folks out there, the neo-nazi racists. one is there fighting fascism and whether their tactics are right, we can debate that. but they're not on the same level, are they? >> the soviet communists for a while thought fascist. that the did not make them good people. they killed a lot of people, too. antifa is full of anarchists and communists and they are not good people. if you want to say who is worse, yeah, i guess at this point, there's no question the neo-nazis are worse. that doesn't make antifa good guys because they dislike people that you and i dislike. i hope we can agree upon that. >> ana, you want to respond to what he said? >> look, i think i don't understand how anybody can be in the presence of such hate and not be part of that hate. i don't know how you can be in a march, a protest that to me looked like a kkk march except without the hoods. you know, something and i've been thinking about this protest in charlottesville, this kkk march without the hood, and there's something that made me so sad about that an

it was the one after donald trump won the presidency saying, hail trump, hail victory, which is neo-nazieak and people came up and were using the nazi salute during one of his speeches. very important to mention this, the fact that donald trump himself, not a statement from the white house, but the president himself did not condemn white supremacy, did not condemn racism or did not condemn the groups that were out there and spewing such hate against everyone, here's how the white supremacist saw this, this is the most extreme of the white supremacy movement, a neo-nazi has a website called the daily stormer. it is very popular among the white supremacy group and here's what the head of that said after listening to the president when it comes to shartsville, virginia. he said trump's comments were good. he did not attack us. he just said the nation could come together. nothing specific against us. we asked to condemn, when asked to condemn he just walked out of the room, really, really good. god bless him. so what they see when the president refuses to actually condemn white supremacists

he certainly used neo-nazi language as he's trying to rile up his base. and then we have the anti-fascists. not considered a hate group, created in 1930s as a reaction to nazism and resurfaced recently over the last few years because of this global nationalist movement, and they target racism. fascism. nazism. one part of this group known at the black bloc targets people and ideas, but also go out and protest and can be destructive, violent acts. we've seen a lot of that here on the west coast at berkeley, university of berkeley, for example. seeing that play out, and known at black block and are often very destructive. i want to talk about the numbers here. if you look across the board since november, since the election of donald trump there's been a spike in hate incidents. not hate crimes. hate incidents. things like recruitment, going to college campuses, putting posters, for example, all over campuses. this particular event in charlottesville, virginia, was for recruitment. there is no doubt about it. going out with those tiki torch it's trying to sh

president wants to deflect from neo-nazis. and anti-semites and clu ku klux klan by saying this is history, this not history. these monuments went up -- >> what do you say to a black american who says, look, we can learn from history, i talked about it on morning show, we should have mandatory school trips, force kids to learn, go see the monuments, understand why they died and why they were captured. >> i will speak out, i disagree. true history has to be depicted by the monument. >> you are do you agree with president of united states said this say local issue. >> i could not disagree more. >> you just don't like him, but what about he said about a local issue. or should federal government come in say, nope. >> i think that president of united states has to lead as a moral leader not try to deflect. >> you ran for governor. >> there were not good people marching with neo-nazis. >> context of that and conversation is, i talked about it and tracied it. addressed it just because a person wants to keep an monument does not mean

july about that what did that have to do with you know fighting for the country's independence open neo nazis in order glorification of those who fought alongside nazis is not something new for europe in some countries those are reduced to underground cells and many others people with such views are actually in power or out in the streets from ukrainian far right nationalists openly supporting nazi rooms and symbols to marches in the baltic states in memory of members of the baltic s.s. allegiance and openly fascist golden dawn party in greece but all that rarely gets attention all of the mainstream media in the united states just recently the washington post finally rang the alarm bells in this article suggesting that the fire. in ukraine or holding the government by something no one wants to be held by and act with absolute impunity which does not let ukraine embrace the values it's supposed to embrace but that was the rare exception when senator john mccain and house speaker paul ryan tweeted out their gleaming impressions of meeting ukrainian parliament speaker would be the man whose book

russia is the hotbed of or the preferred country of neo nazis it's absurd first neo nazis are looking to russia neo nazis did they ever hear about this thing called world war two they understand how historically that doesn't seem to make any sense if you ever meet a neo nazi all you have to do is ask said nazi explain. not cism to me and they can't hear it and the reason why many of them can't answer is that the nazis that we saw in charlottesville were basically actors that were handed a swag bag here you there is lies there you get an iron cross and you were given twenty bucks a bus fare in a box lunch or dinner you're a nazi americans number one do not understand who these people are. rights groups are accusing the u.k. of using aid to libya as a means of preventing refugees from leaving that war torn country britain's prince pending a large amount of money and effort on a forum. recently pledged millions of pounds in fact to stem the flow as you put it of illegal migrants from libya to europe he also voiced support to for tougher border controls in fact speaking in tripoli said th

not neo-nazis, not what was happening in there, many sides. some said it seemed that he was putting the paralegals there -- >> many sides. >> the other side. >> the reason why there is going to be more pressure, all due respect to mcmaster, is it's not fair to all americans. one of the groups where it's not clear to where the president stands is white supremacists themselves. we saw throughout the weekend on some of their message boards, their media and tweets, they think the president is on their side. they think he is one of them, and he endorsed their behavior. you can't say it's clear to americans and republicans and democrats where the president stands when you have nazis themselves saying that he stands with them. >> and you see the neo-nazi site, the daily stormer -- i hate to put it up because it's garbage and horrible. trump comments were good. he didn't attack us. he said the nation should come together. nothing specific against us. he said that we need to study why people are so angry and implied there was hate on both sides. no con

trumprst daughter, ivanka also tweeting out over the weekend denouncing white and neo-nazis. attorney general jeff sessions same public this morning that the department of justice will be investigating this as an issue of domestic terrorism. that the note president has arrived back at the white house and he is going to be meeting with attorney general sessions as well as fbi director -- that meeting is already underway. we should maybe hear from the president after that meeting. kevin, there are plenty of other people on the manufacturing council, 18 anders, even after geithner mosque are out. mary barra, till because go. we did hear from paul komen, unilever ceo and he tweeted at thanks that ken frazier for standing up for the moral values that made this country what it is. he quoted the tweet that ken frazier tweeted out. will we hear more from business leaders in the u.s. on charlottesville and is a necessary hear from them? kevin: it is necessary to hear from them. it's republicans and the presidents own party, house people are -- house speaker paul , senatorenouncing it

charlie: on monday the president did attack races, white supremacists, and neo-nazis.riminal,p: racism is including the kkk, neo-nazis, white supremacist, and other hate groups that are repugnant to everything we hold dear as americans. charlie: finally today, and an angry confrontation with a reporter, the president went back to the point that there was blame on both sides. pres. trump: when you say alt-right, define it for me? define it for me, come on. thatabout the alt left came charging at the -- as you t-right -- the alt-right, do they have any semblance of guilt? what about the fact they came charging with clubs in their hands, do they have any problem? i think they do. wait a minute. i am not finished, big news. that was a horrible -- i am not finished fake news. that was a horrible day. i watched this much more closely been you people watched it. and if you -- you had a group on one side that was bad and you had a group on the other side that was also very violent and nobody once to say it, but i will say it right now. you had a group on the other side that ca

i've condemned neo nazi s. i've condemned many different groups, but not all of those people were neo nazis, believe me. not all of those people were white supremests by any stretch. those people were also there because they wanted ded to protest the taking down of a statue of robert e lee >> tonight both democrats and republicans are calling the president out from his message today. fox5's lindsay watts is live now with reaction from outside the white house. lindsay. >>reporter: shawn and tony earlier tonight there were some demonstrators who were here in response to the president's re marks tonight. it is quiet in front of the white house. now in addition to what you just heard president trump also said that there were quote, fine people on both sides, meaning the protestors there in charlottesville and those who came to t oppose them. as you you heard he said that there's blame on both sides and that has some people furious that would be any equivalents drawn between self-described white national lists, whit

president trump finally denounces the kkk and neo-nazis by name, saying racism is evil. too little, too late? the president takes heat for his initial tepid response to the white supremacist violence. why did it take so long to condemn it, why is he so defensive about the delay. >>> murder charges, the man accused of driving his car into a crowd killing one person and injuring 19 makes a court appearance, facing multiple felony charges. as some who know him describe very radical views on race. >>> and missile movement. u.s. spy satellites now spotting movement of north korean mobile missile launcher, following the regime's threat to fire missiles towards guam. as u.s. forces prepare for war games in south korea, are things about to flare up again? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." >>> breaking news, two days after he failed to condemn white supremacists for violence in charlottesville, virginia, president trump is finally calling out the kkk and the neo-nazis, declaring them repugnant and saying racism is evil, following blistering criticism, much of it f

it is illegal to be a neo nazi to carry out a violent attack but when a neo nazi carries out a violentattack it is usually simply treated as murder or hate crime but not usually as terrorism from a legal point of view bas there isn't an association with an international terrorist organization such as isis oral quieda. >> peter bergen of new america and analyst for cnn, thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> sreenivasan: for more perspective on the events in charlottesville, we're joined from long island, new york, via skype by michael eric dyson, a professor of sociology at ite america." a sermon toars >> thanks for joining us. before we get to the events of yesterday i want to ask you about the events of two nights ago, when you say young men carrying torches on the uva campus, what went through your head? >> it was extraordinarily disspiritting. many people have said this is not america, this is not us, yes, it is. this is an ugly continuation of a brutal tradition of white sprem see in this nation. the torches signifying those night riders who used to stalk black people wit