as a result of that we changed the way nerc was funded. it reports to ferc.it's funded through an assessment through all of the utilities and rather in that assessment is paid to ferc who then pace nerc. we've taken the financial incentives out of the hand of the rto or the rely jacket council in this case. when we talk about independent planning it's not about some kind of closed door deal here it's about getting the financial impacts off the back of the rto so they can do the job that they are there to do. then when we get to that point you have the question that says hey, who should participate and which of the rates of returns that these companies should earn? i think that the fair thing to say here is, when you start to build regional projects that everyone is affected they should be participating in as financial investors. those people should be part of that investment proposition because they are all there to make the grid work and work in a concert way. when you build a regional grid, you have to have yourself in a position where you can maintain it.