as a result we changed the way nerc was funded, it reports to ferc funded through an assessment through of the utilities and rather -- in that assessment s paid to ferc who then pays nerc and we've taken the financial incentives of the market participants out of the hands of the argeo or this case the reliability council so when we talk about independent planning it's not about some kind of closed door deal it is about getting the financial impact of that act of the argeo so they can do the job they are there to do. then when we get to that point, you have the question that says who should participate on the rates of returns these companies should earn. i think the fair thing to say is when you start to build regional projects everyone is affected by the should be participating in financial investors. this shouldn't be just a one-stop one-person plays the those people should be part of that investment proposition because they are there to make the great work and work in concert way. when you build a regional grid you have to be in a position you can maintain it. no one company could go

what point will the american people decide the interest of the insurance company everybody else in nercer be sevened by our politicians? the bizarre concept that relies on our politicians that they ought to look out for those people as opposed to try to empower the wealth generation machine of a few insurance executives. that's crazy. i'm sure i'm going to get thrown out of the country in a second. >> you sound like a single-payer guy to me. >> i don't know what the answer is. i'm demanding a more interesting conversation either you're against health care or pay for it when it's ovens obvious we're getting garbage out. maybe it's single-payer. i don't know. i'm here asking questions, randy. i'm not here with answers. >>> second hour of the "morning meeting" getting under way. hoifg housing a conversation that doesn't go away. vi we'll have much more coming up. stay with us. doesn't go away. vi we'll have much more coming up. stay with us. undefeated professional boxer floyd "money" mayweather has the fastest hands boxing has ever seen. so i've come to this ring to see who's faster... on