she doesn't do a lot of fancy things because nessie's an athlete. she is very basic now. spam. c-span: we have louisiana and detroit and michigan and new york city. you lived in washington for how long? >> guest: i never lived in washington. c-span: commuting all the time. national geographic from many months? >> guest: almost two years. i want to say you're in nine months. c-span: is there anything, just to talk about mass of geographic from moment, is there anything about that magazine that you found unusual are interesting after you got inside? >> guest: well, i think it is an amazing place and that they, on some levels that are doing god's work. there are just doing something that no one else has the ability to do or the financing to do, and it's amazing. and it was the only place -- i used to say this before they call me in as meet. >> guest: the only place i love to leave the type to go. i've always been an awful of the visual impact of that magazine. there you understand what it takes to put it together. it is a very long process that you are planning stories. your meeti