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know what theally dynamic is going to be between netanyahu and trump. makes this rt what meeting so interesting. but ve known each other this is a whole different dynamic and especially now that going to be making an of trump on -- rather making n ask of netanyahu on settlements, we don't really know how that dynamic is going pushing h netanyahu back against trump. who knows what it's going to look lake. >> has the
know what theally dynamic is going to be between netanyahu and trump. makes this rt what meeting so interesting. but ve known each other this is a whole different dynamic and especially now that going to be making an of trump on -- rather making n ask of netanyahu on settlements, we don't really know how that dynamic is going pushing h netanyahu back against trump. who knows what it's going to look lake. >> has the
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that is something netanyahu wants. the magic formula, a way to get to that might be the bush letter of 2004. he whispers into president letter ear, we have this from george w. bush with sharon, why not to reaffirm it? the obama administration do not do it and it was the beginning of the deterioration between the relationship of the two countries over the refusal to reaffirm that. that's a letter should be stated precisely does not talk about building and the settlement clusters or blocs, but says the if the population centers will be part of israel probably. it has to be agreed with the palestinians and basically implies it does not discuss land exchanges. i'm sure will like operationalize this letter. why not build there tomorrow? we gather in that night transition paper saying it might toa way that i will like emphasize and not be misinterpreted that this requires strong u.s. quarter nation. enthink there is a preced and i go to the bush era between condoleezza rice and sharon. itaelis call it the fence, should be sy
that is something netanyahu wants. the magic formula, a way to get to that might be the bush letter of 2004. he whispers into president letter ear, we have this from george w. bush with sharon, why not to reaffirm it? the obama administration do not do it and it was the beginning of the deterioration between the relationship of the two countries over the refusal to reaffirm that. that's a letter should be stated precisely does not talk about building and the settlement clusters or blocs, but...
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a public opinion so this issue of what can be done here is going to be a key question now could netanyahu suggest why don't you get this quartet, the saudis, the emirates, egypt and jordan have diplomatic ties with israel could you find a way to somehow give this regional tie a push? the palestinians think worst-case scenario. they think it's all a plot to bypass the palestinians. could the ideas to create momentum in a way that would give palestinians political cover to deal with the bilateral route that has not borne fruit. the u.s. tried with bill clinton, with condoleezza rice and the subsequent abbas/olmert talks and the one that i was a part of in 2013 and 2014. if we can't hit a home run, maybe we can hit singles. but that might require some regional umbrella of some support and this will be a question. but i think it's a mistake to think that israel looks at the -- that the sunnis just through the lens of providing an umbrella on the palestinian issue they may think -- rob alluded to in his remarks. could there be closer u.s./sunni ties? i think israel likes the role as regional a
a public opinion so this issue of what can be done here is going to be a key question now could netanyahu suggest why don't you get this quartet, the saudis, the emirates, egypt and jordan have diplomatic ties with israel could you find a way to somehow give this regional tie a push? the palestinians think worst-case scenario. they think it's all a plot to bypass the palestinians. could the ideas to create momentum in a way that would give palestinians political cover to deal with the bilateral...
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that was music to benjamin netanyahu's ears. there was also this issue of settlements as well as the two-state solution and, wolf, we should mention just the last 24 hours white house officials have acknowledged that they are now perhaps backing away from any kind of insist ens that there be a two-state solution as part of a middle east peace deal. white house officials were telling reporters last night that that's not necessarily going to have to be the case. that they're not going to insist on the israelis abiding by that, be and that is really a shift from a u.s. foreign policy for republican and democratic administration's going back many years now. that is obviously a question that's going to be asked. wolf, you know, the one thing that has not changed so far is that this administration has not abandoned the iran nuclear deal. you know, so much talk about this during the campaign. the president went after the iran nuclear deal just about every chance he got during the campaign, but it stands at this point. they did add addi
that was music to benjamin netanyahu's ears. there was also this issue of settlements as well as the two-state solution and, wolf, we should mention just the last 24 hours white house officials have acknowledged that they are now perhaps backing away from any kind of insist ens that there be a two-state solution as part of a middle east peace deal. white house officials were telling reporters last night that that's not necessarily going to have to be the case. that they're not going to insist...
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honestly, if benjamin netanyahu and the israelis are happy. i'm happy with the rest. >> backing off saying he would not insist on a two-state solution to resolve the confl t conflict. this coming at a joint news conference before meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu largely overshadowed by the questions surrounding the campaign over russia. what is the reaction coming from israel this morning? cnn's oren liebermann live in jerusalem for us. it was interesting to watch donald trump on the campaign trail telling benjamin netanyahu keep the settlements going and now he is saying wait a minute. that two-state solution or one-state solution doesn't matter. the president's reaction is casual to the problem in the middle east. >> reporter: casual and noncommittal. saying whatever works for you, it works for me. figure it out and i'm okay. the right wing government is celebrating that press conference with mr. trump and prime minister netanyahu. are some calling for an annexation for the west bank. netanyahu was asked if he supported a two-s
honestly, if benjamin netanyahu and the israelis are happy. i'm happy with the rest. >> backing off saying he would not insist on a two-state solution to resolve the confl t conflict. this coming at a joint news conference before meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu largely overshadowed by the questions surrounding the campaign over russia. what is the reaction coming from israel this morning? cnn's oren liebermann live in jerusalem for us. it was interesting to watch donald...
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i don't think netanyahu wants to stay there. he wants to stay focused on t the -- if you include east jerusalem, 90% if you get into the maps, i think sms something that netanyahu wants. might be p bush letter of 2004. whispering into president trump's ear that he would sign sherone. that was the beginning of a relationship between those two countries. now letter should be stated precisely. it's a deal where these senators will be part of israel probably, but says they have to agree with the palestinians. land swap, land exchanges. now, netanyahu i'm sure would like to operationalize that letter. we get at that in our transition paper. this requires strong u.s. israel coordination. i go back to the bush era between condi rice and sherone, the barrier, the fence, that should be kind of synchronized with the united states. not formally, but quietly. they brought the maps here. i don't think any president wants surprises. the meeting on thursday, a couple of hours later, was this idea that don't think the right shouldn't think that
i don't think netanyahu wants to stay there. he wants to stay focused on t the -- if you include east jerusalem, 90% if you get into the maps, i think sms something that netanyahu wants. might be p bush letter of 2004. whispering into president trump's ear that he would sign sherone. that was the beginning of a relationship between those two countries. now letter should be stated precisely. it's a deal where these senators will be part of israel probably, but says they have to agree with the...
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with a lebanese firm that was brokered by a family member of netanyahu. both of these are considered to be by israeli police serious enough to consider recommending an indictment. we're not entirely sure if that's going to come down. that's one of the reasons netanyahu wanted this current trip scheduled at a difficulty time was that he was also going to asia and didn't want to be out of jerusalem for so long. we paid for that dome and are now giving them $38 million and i don't feel like he has given our country or the last president the gratitude and respect that he should have and i think they need to realize that the american people are hurting and i don't agree with us bar rowing money from china china -- borrowing money from china to give the israel. israel is not a poor country. a lot of american people are really getting tired of being israel's private atm machine and anyway, that's my comment. thank you. the reason why the u.s. and israel and -- have the -- such as those that assure you identify and uniquely american. israel being the only democra
with a lebanese firm that was brokered by a family member of netanyahu. both of these are considered to be by israeli police serious enough to consider recommending an indictment. we're not entirely sure if that's going to come down. that's one of the reasons netanyahu wanted this current trip scheduled at a difficulty time was that he was also going to asia and didn't want to be out of jerusalem for so long. we paid for that dome and are now giving them $38 million and i don't feel like he has...
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obama never approved of mr netanyahu's policies of encouraging settle m e nt netanyahu's policies of hard line towards the palestinians. mr trump did say, you might have to ease back on the settlements of it.|j did say, you might have to ease back on the settlements of it. i don't think mr netanyahu or the israeli right will enjoy hearing that, because initially they thought they would get a blank cheque from president trump. in the first days after his inauguration, the authorised, with the netanyahu, six and a half thousand units in the occupied territories. and the first all—new settlement in a generation. even the white house said to him, calm down a bit, and that is what trump was saying today. what they we re trump was saying today. what they were both hinting that was some kind of wider agreement involving arab countries. who share their suspicions of iran. that was the other big theme in the news conference. on the moors israel and palestinians, the other was iran. mr trump said it could be a two state solution, but might be one state, which has left a few viewers thinking wh
obama never approved of mr netanyahu's policies of encouraging settle m e nt netanyahu's policies of hard line towards the palestinians. mr trump did say, you might have to ease back on the settlements of it.|j did say, you might have to ease back on the settlements of it. i don't think mr netanyahu or the israeli right will enjoy hearing that, because initially they thought they would get a blank cheque from president trump. in the first days after his inauguration, the authorised, with the...
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melania trump, sara netanyahu. it support to point out, there is a legal investigation, he has been investigated by legal authorities there. allegations of corruption. there are some clouds shadowing him on this visit. as peter, you were talking, as we watch them walk in to the south entrance, there are different emphasis here. you have the trump white house wanting to negotiate middle east peace without a separate palestinian state. and the prime minister's concerns are all about iran, iran, iran. >> he wants to discuss the iran deal, and the fact that president trump may reconsider it. there has been no bigger opponent of that deal than benjamin netanyahu. as you say, melania trump is here alongside her husband. the fact that even as they arrive, very limited opportunity to visit together before they come out to the news conference. flipping the deal a bit. normally, they have those conversations as president trump did last week. today, a lot of the news that will be made it will made in real time. which is to sa
melania trump, sara netanyahu. it support to point out, there is a legal investigation, he has been investigated by legal authorities there. allegations of corruption. there are some clouds shadowing him on this visit. as peter, you were talking, as we watch them walk in to the south entrance, there are different emphasis here. you have the trump white house wanting to negotiate middle east peace without a separate palestinian state. and the prime minister's concerns are all about iran, iran,...
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israel has its interests here and benjamin netanyahu is a strong leader. may be to his benefit to not have a person with stature the previous people have had. >> of course. let's talk about the labor nominee. andrew puzder withdrew. he ran into democratic opposition and losing republicans as well. lot of issues. this didn't help. >> once i made that break and made it public, remember my ex-husband was a public figure. everyone knew him and knew what he was doing. once i made that plirks he vowed revenge. i will see you in the gutter. this will never be over, you will pay for this. >> his ex-wife appearing on the "oprah winfrey show," allegation of abuse she later walked back. but how put this through, where was the extreme vetting? >> i assume they knew about this. wasn't a secret. i interviewed donald trump on him defending roger ailes on the sexual harassment claims and back and forth because gretchen came out and was nice it didn't happen. he didn't understand how sexual harassment worked and doesn't understand physical or sexual abuse and dmiskt violen
israel has its interests here and benjamin netanyahu is a strong leader. may be to his benefit to not have a person with stature the previous people have had. >> of course. let's talk about the labor nominee. andrew puzder withdrew. he ran into democratic opposition and losing republicans as well. lot of issues. this didn't help. >> once i made that break and made it public, remember my ex-husband was a public figure. everyone knew him and knew what he was doing. once i made that...
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optics are important to benjamin netanyahu. how much is he wanting the world to see that new administration greeting him warmly? >> extremely important. he takes a lot of pride that he's only the fourth visitor to the new washington after traditional american allies like britain, canada, japan, that means a lot to him. at a time where he felt he was marginalized over the last eight years, that he's suddenly a very wanted visitor. so the symbolism is critical for him. and i think also for trump who really campaigned on a reset with israel as well. that here, you know, the message is the music. that it's a new tone. and despite that in the obama years there was extremely close security relations. in many ways unprecedented. there's no hiding the very bruising, you know, policy disagreements that existed between washington and jerusalem over iran and differences over the palestinian issue. >> and this is the reality that benjamin netanyahu, no matter what he says, he heads up a very right-wing government, a lot of members of his c
optics are important to benjamin netanyahu. how much is he wanting the world to see that new administration greeting him warmly? >> extremely important. he takes a lot of pride that he's only the fourth visitor to the new washington after traditional american allies like britain, canada, japan, that means a lot to him. at a time where he felt he was marginalized over the last eight years, that he's suddenly a very wanted visitor. so the symbolism is critical for him. and i think also for...
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the talks between netanyahu and president trump, it's just a starting point. a new attitude that will change the fact that the idea of a two-state solution, as we know it from the '90s is not feasible anymore. one can say that it's because of the settlement, one can say it's because of the palestinians, it doesn't matter. i participate in the peace talks in 2011 and i was responsible for the blame game. the blame game is not important anymore. what is important is the fact that it's impossible to bridge the gaps and to create the '67 lines and to create again the opportunity or the idea that we had new in the '90s. we need to think out of the box. if israel won't do that, i'm sure that president trump is not going to find a different way. he will just adopt the old ideas, whether from bush administration or from obama administration. at the end of the day, we'll find ourselves in the kind of a conflict between jerusalem and washington. >> very interesting. okay, thank you. look, why don't we just do very quickly, i'm going to ask three people to do their quest
the talks between netanyahu and president trump, it's just a starting point. a new attitude that will change the fact that the idea of a two-state solution, as we know it from the '90s is not feasible anymore. one can say that it's because of the settlement, one can say it's because of the palestinians, it doesn't matter. i participate in the peace talks in 2011 and i was responsible for the blame game. the blame game is not important anymore. what is important is the fact that it's impossible...
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netanyahu said it best.e have a friend in donald trump and for the first time since 2014, we have real talks about trying to come to a better situation for the people in that area of the world that really want someone that cares about them, and donald trump has said, we're going to make this a priority. i think they're excited. netanyahu is excited -- >> what did you think about the answer to the question? i want to get this out of andre. what did you think about the answer to the question? >> i say this and y'all think i'm crazy, but donald trump is not a politician, he's a ceo businessman who's going to answer questions differently than most politicians. >> that's not an answer. can we play the -- hold on, andre, hold on, please. director, play just the question from the reporter. >> mr. president, since your election campaign and even after your victory we've seen a sharp rise in anti-semitic incident across the united states and i wonder what do you say to those among the jewish community in the states a
netanyahu said it best.e have a friend in donald trump and for the first time since 2014, we have real talks about trying to come to a better situation for the people in that area of the world that really want someone that cares about them, and donald trump has said, we're going to make this a priority. i think they're excited. netanyahu is excited -- >> what did you think about the answer to the question? i want to get this out of andre. what did you think about the answer to the...
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benjamin netanyahu and u.s.sident donald trump have reconfirmed the lines between their countries. other talk in washington, they say they could abandon the long-standing to state solution for the middle east conflict. authorities in germany have rated the apartments of four -- raided the apartments of four imams. no arrests were made in the raids. i am joined now by our political correspondent. no arrests were made, but did authorities find any evidence? anything they were looking for? >> they confiscated means of communication, mobile phones and computers. the aim is to get more evidence on the subject. the organization itself said they will assist in the investigation. at the same time, they showed some irritation on the website, saying the raids irritated the turkish and muslim community. brent: the four leaders pass on information to the muslim consulate. isn't that what a hostile government would do? >> germany and turkey are allies. angela merkel visited ankara at the beginning of february. the turkish go
benjamin netanyahu and u.s.sident donald trump have reconfirmed the lines between their countries. other talk in washington, they say they could abandon the long-standing to state solution for the middle east conflict. authorities in germany have rated the apartments of four -- raided the apartments of four imams. no arrests were made in the raids. i am joined now by our political correspondent. no arrests were made, but did authorities find any evidence? anything they were looking for?...
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then netanyahu and first lady melania trump. we may or may not get the type of warning that we always see, ivanka trump and her husband jared who has been tasked to work in the white house closely with the president. as they all take their seats and pull into position, you have the two lecterns there. we anticipate the two leaders to walk in next. what would be some of the things that we should start with? obviously, general flynn will come up i would think. >> sandra: i think right now everyone is wondering what i conversation is like. pete, if you could shed some light there on where they might begin with that. >> pete: israel has had its back against the wall. it president trump's back is against the wall. they're going to look at each other and to say what's in the best interest of america and israel and our alliance and how do we stand together to stand firm on that, that may be our joint security around the world. >> meghan: support for israel isn't certainly a republican issue. chuck schumer came out against the iran deal
then netanyahu and first lady melania trump. we may or may not get the type of warning that we always see, ivanka trump and her husband jared who has been tasked to work in the white house closely with the president. as they all take their seats and pull into position, you have the two lecterns there. we anticipate the two leaders to walk in next. what would be some of the things that we should start with? obviously, general flynn will come up i would think. >> sandra: i think right now...
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are you building settlements. —— mr netanyahu.ting and interestingly they decided not to have a press conference afterwards, they just put have a press conference afterwards, theyjust put out a statement which is kind of unusual. i think a sign that neither of them wanted to face awkward questions. a spokeswoman for theresa may said the objection to settle m e nts theresa may said the objection to settlements was that they undermine trust, the reality is there is no trust, the reality is there is no trust between the israelis and palestinians on these particular issues. and there is a pretty strong international consensus that the growth of settlements is doing more than anything else to reduce the chances of the so—called two state solution. palestinian state alongside israel. now of course they wa nt alongside israel. now of course they want the visit to go well, the uk needs more trading partners because of brexit. and israel has a very strong high—tech economy so you can see why they want it all to go well and perhaps they did
are you building settlements. —— mr netanyahu.ting and interestingly they decided not to have a press conference afterwards, they just put have a press conference afterwards, theyjust put out a statement which is kind of unusual. i think a sign that neither of them wanted to face awkward questions. a spokeswoman for theresa may said the objection to settle m e nts theresa may said the objection to settlements was that they undermine trust, the reality is there is no trust, the reality is...
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he wants to know netanyahu's plan.stinian state and oppositionjewish settle m e nts state and oppositionjewish settlements built on occupied land expected to form part of that. trump says israel should keep building, but the president has been cautiously rowing back. we do believe the existence of current sentiments is an impediment to peace but we believe the expansion of existing settlements will not be helpful going forward. netanyahu he is also seeking a better breed on trump's editions. campaign promises on one thing, complicated realities are another, especially if the president is a businessman who hopes to make the ultimate deal on middle east peace. in australia, campaigners are calling for a ban on the sale of fake aboriginal art. it's claimed tens of thousands of the boomerangs, dot paintings and didgeridoos sold every year are cheap imports from china and indonesia, which rip—off the work of indigenous artists. from sydney, hywel griffith reports. following the line that traces back tens of thousands of yea
he wants to know netanyahu's plan.stinian state and oppositionjewish settle m e nts state and oppositionjewish settlements built on occupied land expected to form part of that. trump says israel should keep building, but the president has been cautiously rowing back. we do believe the existence of current sentiments is an impediment to peace but we believe the expansion of existing settlements will not be helpful going forward. netanyahu he is also seeking a better breed on trump's editions....
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that was trump doing netanyahu a favor. netanyahu is under pressure from his right wing to expand settlements. he doesn't want to do it. he's never been a settlement fanatic and what they are going to do, i guarantee you, the administration will end up with an agreement with the israelis to return to the understanding in a letter that george w. bush wrote to the israelis in 2004 in which the settlement issue is dealt with in this way. no new settlements, no expansion of the territory on which settlements are located. however, you can add housing inside. that was the understanding. it was abandoned by obama. and what was the betrayal of the israelis. it suits both sides and takes the settlement issue off the table. >> bret: charles, about the investigations that will be called for by both republicans and democrats about the connection to russia and the communications, do you think this is just the beginning and you think there's a lot they ar are? >> we know a lot of the -- has to do with paul manafort. if that's all it is,
that was trump doing netanyahu a favor. netanyahu is under pressure from his right wing to expand settlements. he doesn't want to do it. he's never been a settlement fanatic and what they are going to do, i guarantee you, the administration will end up with an agreement with the israelis to return to the understanding in a letter that george w. bush wrote to the israelis in 2004 in which the settlement issue is dealt with in this way. no new settlements, no expansion of the territory on which...
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pm netanyahu: you asked about iran. one thing is preventing iran from getting nuclear weapons, something that president trump and i, i think are deeply committed to do. and we are obviously going to discuss that. i think beyond that, president trump has led a very important effort in the past few weeks just coming into the presidency, he pointed out their violations, the iranian violations on ballistic missile tests. by the way, these ballistic missiles are inscribed in hebrew, israel must be destroyed. the iranian foreign minister said, our ballistic missiles are not intended against any country. no, they write on the missiles in hebrew, israel must be destroyed. so, challenging iran on its violations of ballistic missiles, imposing sanctions on hezbollah, making them pay for the terrorism that they foment a -- throughout the middle east and beyond, well beyond. i think that is a change and that is clearly evident since president trump took office. i welcome that. i think it is, let me say this very openly, i think it
pm netanyahu: you asked about iran. one thing is preventing iran from getting nuclear weapons, something that president trump and i, i think are deeply committed to do. and we are obviously going to discuss that. i think beyond that, president trump has led a very important effort in the past few weeks just coming into the presidency, he pointed out their violations, the iranian violations on ballistic missile tests. by the way, these ballistic missiles are inscribed in hebrew, israel must be...
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he even says including netanyahu.c position has always been in support of a palestinian state. it's always been the u.s. that's traditionally been the u.s. that's led the efforts there. that's why this breaking policy even if the rest of the international community stands firm in support of a two-state solution. that's why the u.s. break in policy is such a big deal. it also means the white house's middle east policy has yet to be fully formulated where, that's something that netanyahu will want input on and our diplomats have already put input on. that is something these two leaders netanyahu and trump have a chance to clear, a chance for formulate here. importantly, though, this meeting, this press conference is happening before the meeting, which is to say it's before any substantive discussions. that's important here. both of these leaders are focussing on the optics here. they want to show that this is a new start, a fresh beginning between the u.s. and israel. a fresh beginning between these two leaders. that's
he even says including netanyahu.c position has always been in support of a palestinian state. it's always been the u.s. that's traditionally been the u.s. that's led the efforts there. that's why this breaking policy even if the rest of the international community stands firm in support of a two-state solution. that's why the u.s. break in policy is such a big deal. it also means the white house's middle east policy has yet to be fully formulated where, that's something that netanyahu will...
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this is the coalition that benjamin netanyahu excuse.ught. excuse. this is the coalition that benjamin netanyahu fought. he had another coalition. we were in the coalition. we represented the idea of two states, or basically the idea of two states, or basically the idea of concessions and steps towards the palestinians, and he toppled his own government and elections by saying that he wants to form a coalition based on what benjamin netanyahu called a natural partner. it is true. would you go back into government with benjamin netanyahu, if he were to be open to accepting the deal that you say is still on the deal that you say is still on the table, a deal to head towards peace? when a year ago, when this deal or the offers or what was on the table, was, when i was told about it, and asked whether i wanted tojoin the government about it, and asked whether i wanted to join the government based on this, i asked several questions. if you question is, frankly. is he willing to free settlements outside of their blocks? is he willing to give u
this is the coalition that benjamin netanyahu excuse.ught. excuse. this is the coalition that benjamin netanyahu fought. he had another coalition. we were in the coalition. we represented the idea of two states, or basically the idea of two states, or basically the idea of concessions and steps towards the palestinians, and he toppled his own government and elections by saying that he wants to form a coalition based on what benjamin netanyahu called a natural partner. it is true. would you go...
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and right at the end, benjamin netanyahu countries.ng there was no greater friend of the jewish people than donald trump. in the middle of all that, that extraordinary defence of michael flynn. it's only yesterday that the president's press secretary said michael flynn had to go because of a trust issue, because trust had broken down and a series of other things as well. what had been said about the sanctions. here we have donald trump today not mentioning the trust issue. just saying, well, he isa the trust issue. just saying, well, he is a great man, he has been treated unfairly by a fake media. nothing to do with whether or not he misled the vice president. whether he broke the law on contacts with foreign powers. whether he wasn't straight about it. nothing to do with that at all. according to the president, just the result of unfair treatment by the media. thank you for that. gary o'donoghue. we are going to get a little bit more now. david schenker is director of the program on arab politics at the washington institute for near e
and right at the end, benjamin netanyahu countries.ng there was no greater friend of the jewish people than donald trump. in the middle of all that, that extraordinary defence of michael flynn. it's only yesterday that the president's press secretary said michael flynn had to go because of a trust issue, because trust had broken down and a series of other things as well. what had been said about the sanctions. here we have donald trump today not mentioning the trust issue. just saying, well, he...
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benjamin netanyahu has his interest, the president has interest. of course, we've also got the palestinians. that doesn't mean they're gonna get a deal. at least they start out from a stronger base of support. >> melissa: absolutely. i also want to ask you about the pictures we have of russian jets buzzing. i have got to grab my notes and see where that was again. >> in the black sea. >> melissa: thank you very much. there. these are new pictures that we got in of russian jets buzzing aircraft carriers in the black sea. what did you make of this? >> for all the talk about what's the relationship between trump and putin and is there a russian cloud over this white house, the fact is you've got a russian intelligence ship just off the coast of delaware. you've got these russian jet fighters buzzing very close. i think there were four of them. buzzing a u.s. destroyer in the black sea. you've got this apparent violation of the 1987 arms agreement between reagan and gorbachev with the deployment with a longer range missile. despite whatever relationshi
benjamin netanyahu has his interest, the president has interest. of course, we've also got the palestinians. that doesn't mean they're gonna get a deal. at least they start out from a stronger base of support. >> melissa: absolutely. i also want to ask you about the pictures we have of russian jets buzzing. i have got to grab my notes and see where that was again. >> in the black sea. >> melissa: thank you very much. there. these are new pictures that we got in of russian jets...
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inevitable fall will come one day when netanyahu disagrees with trump. trumpn see donald effectively cradling netanyahu in his arms in this one paper's cartoon. is in direct contradiction to the comments yesterday, showing that the u.s. is losing credibility. genie: also losing credibility, a retraction after a paper published a fake story about mass rapes in frankfurt. report froma earlier this month, alleging that a restaurant owner and his staff witnessed a mass rape by drunken foreigners this year, but now police reports could not confirm any of those allegations. the paperhas said -- has done little to ease criticism that the tabloid frequently stokes anti-immigrant sentiment during its reporting and highlights the danger of how -- highlights how dangerous fake news is and how it can inflame social opinion. the so-called witnesses are facing investigation. stephen: 1 -- genie: one company says that london is making drastic changes boozyst the -- to lunches. dheepthika: there is a 9:00 to 5:00 ban on drinking. it was widely tolerated as long as the w
inevitable fall will come one day when netanyahu disagrees with trump. trumpn see donald effectively cradling netanyahu in his arms in this one paper's cartoon. is in direct contradiction to the comments yesterday, showing that the u.s. is losing credibility. genie: also losing credibility, a retraction after a paper published a fake story about mass rapes in frankfurt. report froma earlier this month, alleging that a restaurant owner and his staff witnessed a mass rape by drunken foreigners...
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trump surprising netanyahu with this unscripted request. >> as far as settlements, i'd like to see you hold back on settlements for a little bit. >> reporter: president obama and the u.n. have called those settlements an obstacle to a deal. but tonight, donald trump sounding confident he can negotiate something that has eluded eight u.s. presidents, middle east peace. >> it's the art of the deal. >> reporter: all of this happening while key cabinet secretaries are out of the country. >> you don't have the secretary of state there, you don't have the secretary of defense there, you don't have a national security adviser. it appears that steve bannon is now the principal foreign policy adviser in the white house. >> reporter: with israel, the president relying chiefly on his son-in-law jared kushner who has long ties to netanyahu. >> can i reveal, jared, how long i have known you? >> reporter: when an israeli reporter asked about the rise of anti-semitism since the campaign, the president didn't condemn the incidents, instead pointing to his daughter who has converted to judeaism. >> we
trump surprising netanyahu with this unscripted request. >> as far as settlements, i'd like to see you hold back on settlements for a little bit. >> reporter: president obama and the u.n. have called those settlements an obstacle to a deal. but tonight, donald trump sounding confident he can negotiate something that has eluded eight u.s. presidents, middle east peace. >> it's the art of the deal. >> reporter: all of this happening while key cabinet secretaries are out of...
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i think trump is giving netanyahu almost everything he wants. there is a little bit of a brushback on the settlements. trump put out a statement saying the settlements weren't necessarily going to be helpful for the peace process. i think that surprised a lot of people. trump's picked to be ambassador to israel, i believe said that israel could have annexed the west bank and gotten away with it. a zigzag to put it on settlements. the overall tone was such an incredible reversal from all the visits netanyahu paid to the obama white house where he was seen as a kind of political adversary. the u.s. israel relationship is strong overall, but obama and netanyahu saw each other as almost partisan rivals. there was a famous quote in a newspaper in late 2014 calling netanyahu a chicken bleep. saying he talked a big game but wouldn't act. now he's got the red carpet. he's known jared kushner's family for 10 years at least. trump's got the red carpet there, and it really showed. >> thank you all. can't thank you enough for being on the panel tonight. tha
i think trump is giving netanyahu almost everything he wants. there is a little bit of a brushback on the settlements. trump put out a statement saying the settlements weren't necessarily going to be helpful for the peace process. i think that surprised a lot of people. trump's picked to be ambassador to israel, i believe said that israel could have annexed the west bank and gotten away with it. a zigzag to put it on settlements. the overall tone was such an incredible reversal from all the...
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. >>> a very business dee day in washington, including a high-stakes meeting with benjamin netanyahu discussing middle east peace and the president making some controversial comments that break with past presidents of both parties. here is our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell with more. >> reporter: president trump rolled out the red carpet for israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the pomp and circumstance of a state visit, plus, melania's debut at a white house arrival ceremony. a mood change but also a major policy shift. the new president backing away from four decades of bipartisan u.s. support for a palestinian state. side by side with israel, known as the two-state solution. >> i'm looking at two state and one state and i like the one that both parties like. >> reporter: the personal animosity between israel's prime minister and president obama. >> our alliance has been remarkably strong. but under your leadership, i am confident it will get even stronger. >> reporter: but mr. trump surprising netanyahu with this unscripted request. >> as far as settle
. >>> a very business dee day in washington, including a high-stakes meeting with benjamin netanyahu discussing middle east peace and the president making some controversial comments that break with past presidents of both parties. here is our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell with more. >> reporter: president trump rolled out the red carpet for israel's prime minister benjamin netanyahu. the pomp and circumstance of a state visit, plus, melania's debut at a...
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as long as netanyahu supports it i cannot be pa rt netanyahu supports it i cannot be part of his government where the united nations has again condemned the building of settlements, we have had people suggesting, even president trump saying we would like to see you hold back on settlements, because it is seen as back on settlements, because it is seen as eroding the prospect of a two state solution, but you are, happy for there to be some settlements, indeed he would continue building in settlement blocs, wouldn't you ? continue building in settlement blocs, wouldn't you? the palestinian negotiators, i believe that any american president understands, that when the border is finalised or deleting the border, we need to take in consideration, what we call blocks of settlements, these other places in which most of the israelis are living, hundreds of thousands of them had the good news is that it ta kes them had the good news is that it takes only a few percentage of the west bank, and therefore when the palestinians start speaking about adjustment of the 67 line, this is something that is neg
as long as netanyahu supports it i cannot be pa rt netanyahu supports it i cannot be part of his government where the united nations has again condemned the building of settlements, we have had people suggesting, even president trump saying we would like to see you hold back on settlements, because it is seen as back on settlements, because it is seen as eroding the prospect of a two state solution, but you are, happy for there to be some settlements, indeed he would continue building in...
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here is the president along with benjamin netanyahu. listen. >> i think the palestinians have to get rid some of the hate that they are taught from a young age . i have seen what they are taught and you can talk about flexibility there too, but it's starts at a very young age and start in the school room. blake: flexibility. that was an interesting one. the president standing along netanyahu saying that israel might have to be flexible as it relates to settlement building and that led to potentially one of the more interesting exchange between these two as they were face to face for the first time as president and prime minister watch. we have known each other for a long time. smart man, great negotiator and i think we are going to make a deal that might be bigger and better deal than people in this room even understand. doesn't sound too optimistic. [laughter] >> good negotiator. >> that's the art of the deal. blake: of course, referencing the president's book written way back as businessman. first press conference, a lot of warmth in
here is the president along with benjamin netanyahu. listen. >> i think the palestinians have to get rid some of the hate that they are taught from a young age . i have seen what they are taught and you can talk about flexibility there too, but it's starts at a very young age and start in the school room. blake: flexibility. that was an interesting one. the president standing along netanyahu saying that israel might have to be flexible as it relates to settlement building and that led to...
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trump: thank you. -- and went prime minister netanyahu: -- prime minister netanyahu: thank you. i read yesterday that if you asked five people what two states would look like, you would get eight different answers. mr. president, if you asked five israelis, you would get 12 different answers. rather than deal with labels, i want to deal with substance. it is something i hope to do for years, in a world that is fixated on labels and not on substance. here is the substance. there are two prerequisites for several yearsut ago and they have not changed. first, the palestinians must recognize the jewish state. they have to stop calling for israel's destruction. they have to stop educating their people for israel's destruction. peace agreement, israel must retain the overriding security control over the entire area west of the jordan river because if we do not, we know what will happen. otherwise, we will get another radical islamic terrorist state and the palestinian areas, excluding the [eacpeace. unfortunately, the palestinians reject both. first, they continue to call for israel's
trump: thank you. -- and went prime minister netanyahu: -- prime minister netanyahu: thank you. i read yesterday that if you asked five people what two states would look like, you would get eight different answers. mr. president, if you asked five israelis, you would get 12 different answers. rather than deal with labels, i want to deal with substance. it is something i hope to do for years, in a world that is fixated on labels and not on substance. here is the substance. there are two...
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yamiche, meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu wednesday. will the president be able to hit the reset button with israel the way he says he's going to? >> i mean that's a tough thing to decide. i mean, i think this relationship is something that's been very closely watched. when i was on the campaign trail a lot of people voted for donald trump because they felt like president obama didn't have the same close relationship that they wanted to see with israel. now they're hoping that this president will have a closer relationship with that. but we already see the trump administration backing off on this idea that they were going to be supporting more settlements in israel. that tells me right there that the u.s. policy might not change that much with israel. there might be -- it might look like it's different. it might be a different person but if donald trump is saying you can't build settlements, it inhibits peace in the region, that's a big deal. >> what will that do to the relationship when you're looking at the relationship that president
yamiche, meeting with prime minister benjamin netanyahu wednesday. will the president be able to hit the reset button with israel the way he says he's going to? >> i mean that's a tough thing to decide. i mean, i think this relationship is something that's been very closely watched. when i was on the campaign trail a lot of people voted for donald trump because they felt like president obama didn't have the same close relationship that they wanted to see with israel. now they're hoping...
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netanyahu at the white house. we'll have more on that visit, and we'll hear from america's most recent ambassador to israel, daniel shapiro. earching my family tree, i discovered a woman named marianne gaspard... it was her french name. then she came to louisiana as a slave. i became curious where in africa she was from. so i took the ancestry dna test to find out more about my african roots. the ancestry dna results were really specific. they told me all of these places in west africa. i feel really proud of my lineage, and i feel really proud of my ancestry. ancestry has many paths to discovering your story, get started for free at ancestry.com beneful healthy weight because the first ingredient is chicken. (riley) man, this chicken is spectacular! (jessica) i feel like when he eats beneful, he turns into a puppy again. you love it, don't you? you love it so much! (vo) try beneful healthy weight with chicken. with real chicken as the number one ingredient. ...have you tried the tissue test? question, are my teet
netanyahu at the white house. we'll have more on that visit, and we'll hear from america's most recent ambassador to israel, daniel shapiro. earching my family tree, i discovered a woman named marianne gaspard... it was her french name. then she came to louisiana as a slave. i became curious where in africa she was from. so i took the ancestry dna test to find out more about my african roots. the ancestry dna results were really specific. they told me all of these places in west africa. i feel...
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especially given the relationships that benjamin netanyahu had with president obama. what can we expect from those meetings? >> the relationship with president obama was strained at best. president obama, unfortunately, whatever he might have said to netanyahu in private, clearly the actions that he perfect sued were not -- indicated that there wasn't support, strong support and friendship for israel in the way that president trump, i think, will supply. but president trump is also a realist and pragmatist. and benjamin netanyahu supports a palestinian state, has continued to support a solution that will accommodate a palestinian state. the question is, how do you do that? the president was wise to say that in terms of the settlements on the west bank, it's reasonable for israel not to be provocative while we're trying to work out an agreement. and i have a feeling he will discuss that, frankly, with netanyahu wednesday. >> when it comes to the walk back in settlements, and knowing ahead of this meeting that they're going to be held on wednesday, bernard, what is it t
especially given the relationships that benjamin netanyahu had with president obama. what can we expect from those meetings? >> the relationship with president obama was strained at best. president obama, unfortunately, whatever he might have said to netanyahu in private, clearly the actions that he perfect sued were not -- indicated that there wasn't support, strong support and friendship for israel in the way that president trump, i think, will supply. but president trump is also a...
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dan meridor served as a cabinet minister under netanyahu, but left politics because of netanyahu's shift to the right. he says when it comes to trump, the government should not assume too much. >> he's so unpredictable, in a way. i would not bet anything on what may develop. if i were the government, i would not base any policies on the presumption trump would not go in a separate way. >> reporter: white house statements and trump's recent comments do appear to indicate a change in direction from the first days of trump's presidency, more in line with long standing american policy based on two states for two peoples. the two-state solution is critical to peace because palestinian authority president mahmoud abbas still believes it. it remains the foundation of the palestinian dream. tomorrow's white house visit by netanyahu will be watched very closely on both sides of jerusalem and on the west bank for any hint of a change in the status quo: one defined for so long by division. for the pbs newshour, i'm martin seemungal in jerusalem. >> woodruff: next, how a school district in kansas is
dan meridor served as a cabinet minister under netanyahu, but left politics because of netanyahu's shift to the right. he says when it comes to trump, the government should not assume too much. >> he's so unpredictable, in a way. i would not bet anything on what may develop. if i were the government, i would not base any policies on the presumption trump would not go in a separate way. >> reporter: white house statements and trump's recent comments do appear to indicate a change in...
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discussions with benjamin netanyahu.nce i think people are comfortable with if those things feel a little bit shaken up. but this, you know, top layer and the michael flynn issue and all of the insiding and the leaks and everything, that's not coming across well. stuart: the concern is that this chaotic situation is bite him in the white house, the administration will bleed over into the legislative schedule. tax cuts, obama reform, deregulation, get rid of dodd-frank. i mean, if the chaos there drifts over into this part of the administration, we've all got a real problem. will it drift over? >> i mean, think about the kudos that he got for the people that he appointed for most of these positions; right? everybody said, look, this is the most impressive cabinet that we've seen in a long time. he's lost one of those individuals right now. for people like mattis, people like kelly are giving people a good sense of confidence. those people need to be put forward. they're part of this equation needs to be what people are ta
discussions with benjamin netanyahu.nce i think people are comfortable with if those things feel a little bit shaken up. but this, you know, top layer and the michael flynn issue and all of the insiding and the leaks and everything, that's not coming across well. stuart: the concern is that this chaotic situation is bite him in the white house, the administration will bleed over into the legislative schedule. tax cuts, obama reform, deregulation, get rid of dodd-frank. i mean, if the chaos...
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to make it clear, benjamin netanyahu was in the uk.verage talks about his coverage of the ran almost trying to deflect attention from what's going on in terms of this housing settlements. it seems to be a concerted policy by the israelis. last week we had pictures of what was about to happen in on illegal settlement, because settlers had built land without permission from the israeli government. so the israeli military were sent into remove those settlers and there were a few hundred. at the same time, having said they would build more houses on occupied territory, so—called occupied territory, and the un security council a couple of months ago said they were in legal. israel has removed settlements before, in 2005 they removed some from the gaza strip and they have recognised and said that they are prepared to make very painful decisions to reach some form of peaceful settlement. however, decisions to reach some form of peacefulsettlement. however, news like this make one question whether that's really the case. what do you make of wh
to make it clear, benjamin netanyahu was in the uk.verage talks about his coverage of the ran almost trying to deflect attention from what's going on in terms of this housing settlements. it seems to be a concerted policy by the israelis. last week we had pictures of what was about to happen in on illegal settlement, because settlers had built land without permission from the israeli government. so the israeli military were sent into remove those settlers and there were a few hundred. at the...
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the final day of prime minister benjamin netanyahu's visit, but both he and president trump are waivering on support for a two-state solution. >>> and later defense secretary jim mattis is issuing a warning to nato allies. increase military spending or the u.s. might back off its support. >>> and the white house is searching for a a new labor secretary. the nominee. drop ped out on the eve of his confirmation vote. >>> good morning, alex witt has the day off. a seismic shift of policy in the middle east. president trump announce itted a a two-state solution is not necessarily the goal for peace anymore. a striking reversal of dc kads of u.s. foreign policy. . instead the president says he likes, quote, the one that both parts like. i could live with either one. tr more, let's bring in andrea mut chel with mitchell with more. >> president trump rolled out the red carpet for benjamin netanyahu. the pomp and circumstance of a state visit, plus melania trump's debut at a white house arrival ceremony. a mood change and major policy shift. backing away from four decades of u.s. support for a pa
the final day of prime minister benjamin netanyahu's visit, but both he and president trump are waivering on support for a two-state solution. >>> and later defense secretary jim mattis is issuing a warning to nato allies. increase military spending or the u.s. might back off its support. >>> and the white house is searching for a a new labor secretary. the nominee. drop ped out on the eve of his confirmation vote. >>> good morning, alex witt has the day off. a...
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pm netanyahu: you asked about iran. preventing iran from getting nuclear weapons, something that president trump and i are deeply committed to do, and we're obviously going to discuss that. beyond that, president trump has led a very important effort in the past few weeks, just coming into the presidency. he pointed out iranian violations on ballistic missile tests. by the way, these ballistic missiles are inscribed in hebrew that israel must be destroyed. the iranian foreign minister said our listed missiles are not intended against any country, no. they write on the missiles in hebrew, israel must he destroyed. on itslenging iran valorization desk violations of ballistic missiles and imposing sanctions on hezbollah, preventing them, making them pay for the terrorism that they ferment throughout the middle east and beyond, well beyond. i think that is a change that is , and sincedent president trump took office, i welcome that. let me say this openly, i think it is long overdue. and i think that if we work together, an
pm netanyahu: you asked about iran. preventing iran from getting nuclear weapons, something that president trump and i are deeply committed to do, and we're obviously going to discuss that. beyond that, president trump has led a very important effort in the past few weeks, just coming into the presidency. he pointed out iranian violations on ballistic missile tests. by the way, these ballistic missiles are inscribed in hebrew that israel must be destroyed. the iranian foreign minister said our...
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i think it is something netanyahu had as a hole in the head before washington. it was outflanked by bennett and a lot of energy from the right is coming from its own party. he feels very much kind of caught between the whole thing evacuation,ek with israel have a lot of police injuries. there is a lot of dynamics on the ground that he went ahead and is counting on the courts to govern for him. it is an interesting dynamic. that's all i'll say. there willas have to be some tough fluff love about the united nations, which i think will be good, i think the trump statement of last week was to say, don't associate me with the open checks tool. that is not where i am. i see more reverting to the bush administration than anything else. do you want to add anything here? >> yes, if i may. the fact there is a new sheriff of positive lot aspects in israel and possibly the israelis think he will change anything. something thelso israelis chair that there is one day a president trump who wakes up in the morning and decides he wants the nobel prize and will call netanyahu and
i think it is something netanyahu had as a hole in the head before washington. it was outflanked by bennett and a lot of energy from the right is coming from its own party. he feels very much kind of caught between the whole thing evacuation,ek with israel have a lot of police injuries. there is a lot of dynamics on the ground that he went ahead and is counting on the courts to govern for him. it is an interesting dynamic. that's all i'll say. there willas have to be some tough fluff love about...
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are you saying that netanyahu. are you saying that behind—the—scenes things are more fluid?as not in the meeting and interestingly they decided not to have a press conference afterwards, they just put have a press conference afterwards, theyjust put out a statement which is kind of unusual. i think a sign that neither of them wanted to face awkward questions. a spokeswoman for theresa may said the objection to settle m e nts theresa may said the objection to settlements was that they undermine trust, the reality is there is no trust, the reality is there is no trust between the israelis and palestinians on these particular issues. and there is a pretty strong international consensus that the growth of settlements is doing more than anything else to reduce the chances of the so—called two state solution. palestinian state alongside israel. now of course they wa nt alongside israel. now of course they want the visit to go well, the uk needs more trading partners because of brexit. and israel has a very strong high—tech economy so you can see why they want it all to go well and
are you saying that netanyahu. are you saying that behind—the—scenes things are more fluid?as not in the meeting and interestingly they decided not to have a press conference afterwards, they just put have a press conference afterwards, theyjust put out a statement which is kind of unusual. i think a sign that neither of them wanted to face awkward questions. a spokeswoman for theresa may said the objection to settle m e nts theresa may said the objection to settlements was that they...
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a full interview with benjamin netanyahu. up next, everybody knows democrats probably claim the mantle of feminism, but we will talk to tammy bruce, saying that the feminist movement is -- congressman, you may want to know about this. senator john mccain and ashton kirchner, it was more like a romance than a bromance. we will show you what is going on after the break. one pill prevents the acid that causes heartburn, all day, all night. prevacid®24hr. ♪ some things are simply impossible to ignore. the strikingly designed lexus nx turbo and hybrid. the suv that dares to go beyond utility. experience amazing. when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. liberty did what? yeah, with liberty mutual all i needed to do to get an estimate was snap a photo of the damage and voila! (sigh) i wish my insurance company had that... wait! hold it... hold it boys... there's supposed to be three of you... where's your brother? where's your brother? hey, where's charlie? charlie?! you can leave worry behind when liberty stands
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what a shift this will be in the relationship between bibi netanyahu and president trump. are questions about two-state solution, not to mention iran, that the two men have to talk about. >> reporter: that's right, poppy. i think everyone is describing this meeting today, going to be a love-fest between prime minister netanyahu and president trump, really trying to rekindle their relationship after eight years of acrimony with president obama. i think initially they're still in the honeymoon phase. president trump has been clear about his unequivocal support for israel, but i think as the two leaders start to get together and go down the road and talk about whether there should be a two-state solution, what prime minister netanyahu could do to deliver on some of these things, i think, you know, you're always going to find that relationship does tend to get a little tense. the issues on the table today, iran is really front and center. that's one of the main issues that prime minister netanyahu wants to come speak about, not just the nuclear deal, but also trying to curb ir
what a shift this will be in the relationship between bibi netanyahu and president trump. are questions about two-state solution, not to mention iran, that the two men have to talk about. >> reporter: that's right, poppy. i think everyone is describing this meeting today, going to be a love-fest between prime minister netanyahu and president trump, really trying to rekindle their relationship after eight years of acrimony with president obama. i think initially they're still in the...
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♪ >>> the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's historic visit to the white house.istoric because it's the prime minister's first visit with the new american president. >> this will be the first of many productive meetings. >> i deeply value your friendship. >> b.b. and i have known each other for a long time. a smart man. great negotiator. >> our alliance has been remarkably strong but under your leadership, i'm confident it will get even stronger. >> the palestinians have to get rid of some of that hate that they're taught from a very young age. i'd like to see you hold back onset sets for a little bit. >> it's the art of the deal. >>> hello. i'm wolf blitzer. it's 1:00 p.m. here in washington and 8:00 p.m. jerusalem. wherever you're watching from around the world, thank you for joining us. we begin with what is supposed to be the start of a warm relationship between the white house and israel just in the last hour the prime minister benjamin netanyahu arrived at the white house. it's a different welcome from what we've seen for other world leaders with the first
♪ >>> the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's historic visit to the white house.istoric because it's the prime minister's first visit with the new american president. >> this will be the first of many productive meetings. >> i deeply value your friendship. >> b.b. and i have known each other for a long time. a smart man. great negotiator. >> our alliance has been remarkably strong but under your leadership, i'm confident it will get even stronger....
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i think for the netanyahus this was basically a love in with the american president.uldn't have gone better. if the goal was to show there was no space between israel and the united states, i think they achieved that today. calling on the prime minister netanyahu's wife, sarah, to stand up and take a bow almost, i mean, if you were a palestinian leader watching this from the west bank or gaza, you must be thinking this is the end of the palestinian journey. >> talk to me about that. what is the reaction right now in the middle east to that press conference? >> the words of the american president and i don't want to talk about netanyahu, the words of the american president are at least disheartening. and depressing. and they are going to be shocking to many people. here you have a president breaking with most of his predecessors on the issue of the two-state solution and did it in a trumpian position, flippantly. i accept anything, one-state, two-state, anything they come up with. without realizing that the major advances in peace process in the past happened only beca
i think for the netanyahus this was basically a love in with the american president.uldn't have gone better. if the goal was to show there was no space between israel and the united states, i think they achieved that today. calling on the prime minister netanyahu's wife, sarah, to stand up and take a bow almost, i mean, if you were a palestinian leader watching this from the west bank or gaza, you must be thinking this is the end of the palestinian journey. >> talk to me about that. what...