was getting this information about what netenyahu and his government were trying to do while the u.s. other members of the p5-plus-1 were trying to negotiate a deal with iran on its nuclear program. it has now come out that the spying basically caught up, not just conversations that the israeli government was having with its supporters, but it also caught up conversations that the israelis were having with members of congress, and there are laws here in the united states that ban spying on u.s. persons, including members of congress. so this is a rather eyebrow-raising story, but at the heart of it is the fact that the israelis do spy on the united states and the united states does spy on israel, and this has been going on for decades. >> when you talk about edward snowden, ros, one remembers the wikileaks leaks, and the only thing that came out was basically every country in the middle east hat a problem with iran. they didn't really have a problem with much else. so if we view the conversations between israel and iran through that particular prism, perhaps the world is being a littl