former governor ray, former lieutenant governor art neu, and a number of republican legislators that i have discussed this with that are all supportive of the retaining of justice wiggins and our system. >> however, your opponents say, in iowa, the people who want to remove justice wiggins as they removed the first three, say they're only doing what the state constitution allows, that the power not to retain a judge on the bench is guaranteed to the people. and that's how democracy keeps justices accountable. that's what they're saying and writing out there, as we speak. >> well, they have said lots of things in writing that we would disagree with or that we think are untruths. >> yeah. but, you know, obviously, yes. yes, you know, it's on the ballot and people have the right to vote. but they're not electing a judge or a justice. they're just determining whether this justice is qualified to be retained. and a retention vote pivots around whether a judge has done something that shows that they're unsuited to serve or that they're corrupt. it's not about, "do i agree with their decisi