ana resurgent opens an office in philadelphia and has to pay about -- neurosurgeon opens an office in philadelphia and have to pay about $200,000 a year in insurance alone. it is taking it away from innocent to prevent the lawsuit. it is wasted because of this system. why don't democrats speak about it? because the trial lawyers out of them. -- own them. >> but if the neurosurgeon screws up, doesn't the patient's family have legal recourse? >> there is no difference in the amount of testing procedures in states that have a cap, like texas, with a $250,000, and states that down. >> i believe that sergeant kelly acted in a way that is consistent with his training. i do not believe his actions in anywhere racially motivated. >> there is a long history in this country of african- americans and latinos being stopped by law enforcement disproportionately. that does not lessen the incredible progress that has been made. i am standing here as testimony to the progress that has been made. >> you can buy t-shirts i cambridge, massachusetts, that's a "the world's most opinionated and zip code."

a neurosurgeon who opens an office in philadelphia has to pay about $200,000 a year on insurance alone, and who pays? you pay and i pay. every doctor know how much testing and procedures are away from madison and to prevent losses. why don't democrats speak about it? because of the trial lawyers own them. >> if the neurosurgeon screws up, doesn't a patient's family have legal recourse? >> there is no significant events in the amount of testing procedures in states that have a cap on damages, like texas, $250,000, and states that don't t. >> when democrat jay rockefeller says he is being iced out of the democratic caucus, you have problems with your party. >> he is quite critical of the chairman. >> of max baucus. >> he is the chairman of the health subcommittee, and he says that he and other democrats have been systematically excluded by max baucus in an effort to lure republicans and make this bipartisan. it would be nice if it is bipartisan, but in final analysis, they better come up with a bill. >> if you listen to jim demint and james in hofe, they said that the longer it takes, th

a neurosurgeon who opens an fice in philadelphia s to pay about $200,000 per year on insurance alone, and who ys? you pay and i y. md -- every ctor knows how much testing and procedures are a way t prevent a lossy. why don't democratthink about ? -- why don't democratspeak about ? because tri lawyers around them -- own them. >> if the patient -- if the neurosurgeon screws up, doe't a patit's family have legal recourse? >> there is no fference between states thatave a cap, like tex, and states that do not. >> when jay rockefeller, a democr, says he is being priced out of the democratic process, you have prlems with yo own party, don't yo >> he was quite itical of the chairman. >> of max baus. >> he is the chairman of the health subcommittee. he says the democrats including himsf, and systemacally exuded by in max baucus in a effort to entice republans and makehis a bipartisan. it wou be nic if was bipartisan,but in the final analysis, they have come up with bill. >> t repuicans, if y listeno jim dent and james half -- james inhofe, are saying that belong to the stak, the better it is f

sanjay gupta, cnn's chief medical correspondent and practicing neurosurgeon.hen you think of military surgeon, you think turn kits over high-technolo technology. they're developing robots that will help doctors treat troops around the world. they talk, they walk, they even take pictures. so as my and other doctors' jobs in jeopardy? let's find out. an explosion in iraq, combat medics are among the first to arrive. the clock is ticking, and they have less than happen hour to stabilize the wounded. doctors on the frontline know the challenges in emergency medicine. now they're using lessons on ground to advance medical technologies. we're here at the brooke medical center in the burn icu. i'm making rounds with an unusual rounding partner today. he makes rounds just like this is an icu like this. we're going to get an idea of how this work. how is the patient doing? >> doing great today, sir. we're adjusting his fluids to match the increase. >> okay. what are settings right now? >> 400 -- 30% regular 15 -- >> dr. chung regularly sees patients via the wireless ro

number of key medical specialists that had simply fled critical parts of our state, obstetricians, neurosurgeons, we saw them return and practice to provide good-quality health care. some had never had access to prenatal care or emergency care in their county now have greater access which means shorter drive times and wait times and healthier babies and happier families. the results in texas, i would submit, madam president, have been remarkable. what a great laboratory for us to learn from in enacting commonsense medical liability reform as part of our overall health care debate. of course, texas is not unique in this experience. other states have reformed their laws as well to similar effect including california, colorado, florida, indiana, montana, and virginia. they see lower costs and great are access to health care. what -- greater access to health care. what works in state can work in washington, d.c., and around the whole country generally if we will simply have the encourage to embrace it. we must include medical liability reform in eliminating junk lawsuits and frivolous litigation as

a neurosurgeon credits the beach patrol for saving his life. >> they did an excellent job. so important to understand spinal and mobilization and not just dragging somebody out of the water and throwing them down on the beach -- spinal immobilization. >> the roughest months of my life. >> and he is fortunate. >> they saved my life. >> in a ocean city, kerry cavanaugh, wbal tv 11 news -- in a ocean city. >> we want to thank them. by the way, we also want to tell you that kerry cavanaugh participated. -- in ocean city. >>ç now, your meteorologist tom tasselmyer. >> we are certainly into the hottest time of the year. tomorrow is the anniversary of some scorching record heat. july 10. is the anniversary of that, set in 1936, when baltimore was over 100 degrees -- it is the anniversary of that. 109ç degrees the same day but a few decades earlier. 134 degrees on july 10 in 1913. this time of year, you expect to see some heat across the nation. 109 in phoenix for this time of year is not bad. in the eastern part of the country, comfortably cool. these were afternoon highs in the

a neurosurgeon whopens an offi in philadelphia has paybout200,000 per year on insurance alone, and who pays you pay and i pay. md -- every doct knows how mu testing and procedures are a way to prevent a lossy. why don't democrats thk about it? -- why don't democrs speak abouit? because tal lawyers around them -- own them. >> if the patient -- if the neosurgeon screws up, doesn't a patient's family have legal recourse? >> there is no diffence between states that hava cap, like texas, d states that do not. >> when jay rockefeller, a democrat, says he is being priced out of the democratic process, you have oblems with ur own party, don't u? >> he was quitecritical of the chairman. >> of max bcus. >> he is the chairman of the health subcommittee he says the democrats including hielf, and systetically cluded by in max baucus inn effort to entice repuicans and ma this a bipartisan. it wld be ne ifit was bipartisan, but in the final analysis, they havto come up wi a bill. >>he reblicans, ifou listen to jim mint and james in half -- james inhofe, are saying that belong to the stes, the better

washington hospital center neurosurgeon zachary levine says despite his worsening condition, he was theperfect candidate for a new procedure. doctors could replace his damaged disk with a new, artificial one, that would still allow movement in the neck. >> we're now able to achieve near nmal motion in the neck because, as you c see, it's like a ball and socket joint. we are able to decompress the nerves of the spinal cord being injured and also preserve the motion. >> reporter: normally, blum's only option would be a spinal fusion where the disk is removed and spacer placed between the vertebrae. that can either leave patients without any mobility in the neck or a different disk could become diseased. but the artificial disk is held together by a special joint that allowed for movement. >> the patients traditionally do very well. they have very little residual pain and actually get relief almost immediately. >> reporter: blum says he was surprised how well, how fast the surgery worked. it's been three months and the pain is now 95% gone. >> maybe go back to my normal activities, everyth

his sister kim wasn't as musically gift sod she just became a neurosurgeon. there are 37 chandler grandchildren with more than 37 college degrees. talk to the original chandler children. no... they'll credit their families success on faith, education and appreciation for the sacrifices that came before. of course, the challenge for future generations will be keeping that history alive. but that's where the chandlers have an ice in the hole. >> nine children out of the cotton fields. >> reporter: in a way it was a great gift charles kuralt gave you guys. >> he had no idea. >> there's so much value in that piece that you can go back and be able to teach a lesson. >> reporter: and when your kids start not appreciating things... >> you take them back to that quick. >> reporter: listen to uncle kuralt. >> absolutely! (laughs) >> i know that in the future wherever i hear that the family is a dying institution, i'll think of them. whenever i hear anything in america is impossible, i'll think of them. >> reporter: and if the chandlers ever need reminding how special

. >> i had a situation in iraq i was the only neurosurgeon out there. they asked me to take off my journalist cap and put on the surgeon's cap and perform operations. could a robot have helped them in a situation like that? >> absolutely. let's say the general surgeon had never done that particular procedure you performed, theersically, that person, as quickly as they are able to pick up the phone, call somebody, have them log into a robot that's prepositioned at that location. >> a surgeon could talk someone through an operation as if they were doing it themselves in realtime. >> make an incision like this behind her hairline, something like this. >> right. >> they would see that. >> then you do a craneotomy. >> that is remarkable. >> that is a powerful component. it's particularly useful in that situation where you are doing surgery or any type of procedure. >> chung used the pro bot while deployed in baghdad to fetch updates on soldiers he treated and who returned to the united states. >> could be a big morale booster. >> it was. to visually see that

he is the director of pediatric neurosurgeon at johns hopkins children's center. >> it could be donethan what we are spending. >> dr. carson like obama believes expanding wellness keeps patients out of ers and move them into clinics. >> in the emergency room they send them out and in the clinic they say, mr. brown, lets get your diabetes under control so you are not back in three weeks with another problem, cost everybody a bunch of money. >> we contact members of congress to find out where they stand on health care reform. the loan republican representative roscoe bartlett opposes government intervention in health care. most maryland lawmakers support health care reform. including cardin and mikulski and elijah cummings, edwards, and van hollen. representatives kratovil and rupersburger say they are undecided about this one, represent are active sarbine said he is supports a public plan but is still looking this one over. >> volunteers in this study will all receive two doses of vaccines, three weeks apart. >> still ahead in the news at 10:00. how you can be part of the plan to prev

by the way, i'm sure most of you know that a neurosurgeon's malpractice insurance could be as high as $200,000 a year. who pays for that? approximate so we think there are fundamental reforms that can be made to reduce the escalating costs of health care. that's the fundamental foffs kal -- philosophical difference we have. sean: that's why i would like to have more options on the table than these private meetings may bring about. i am telling everybody who will listen this will be a disaster. it's not just sean hannity. it's the congressional budget office. they're pointing out it's going to drive you will -- up health care costs by trill yons, leave monies out of the system, force millions into the government system. i think we have every reason to believe it results in rationing and the government making decisions as they try to make money including probably impacting the elderly the most of the is there any aspect of my analysis that's wrong or am i on target? >> one, you're on target. two, one of the seminal moments i think occurred a couple weeks ago abandon -- and last week whe

washington hospital center neurosurgeon doctor said despite his worsening condition he was the perfectndidate for new procedure. doctors could replace his damaged disk with a new artificial one that would still allow movement in the neck. >> reporter: the news4 for your health special on the neck pain fix tonight at news4 at 11:00. >>> today president obama revealed his choice for the nation's next surgeon general. her name is dr. regina benjamin. she's faced hurricanes, floods, and fires while trying to care for immoverished patients. she rebuilt her nonprofit health clinic after destroyed by hurricane katrina. president obama said dr. benjamin will bring important insight to the study to revamp the hlth care system. she has seen in a very personal way what is broken about our health care system. the nomination must be confirmed by the senate. >>> up next, countdown to a launch of the space shuttle "endeavour." >> we have a lot of stuff to talk about in sports. busy day as hockey hopefuls try to make an impression at capital camp and wizards ready to roll into summer leaguelay and >>>

cnn medical correspondent and practicing neurosurgeon. deepak, you had an eerie conversation with michael. in hindsight you believe he was talking about diprivan. what happened? >> very casually over the phone, he just dropped a line like deepak. have you heard of the thing that takes you immediately to the valley of death, and then brings you right back. i said i've never heard of such -- something like that. perhaps you know something that i don't know. because i was unfamiliar with this. and now, of course, in hindsight, i realize he might have been talking about diprivan which acts within 40 seconds of being administered intravenously. actually if you don't keep the patient on the drip, it also brings you back right away. so sounds very much like -- >> larry: i guess it is like a kind of death. you are not conscious of anything. >> yes, and according to some people, it also produce assort of euphoria as it takes you into this state of deep hypnosis. the problem is, and you should ask sanjay this, even the toxicology report could be in

sanjay gupta practicing neurosurgeon and associate professor of nurgry surgery, as well. to get diprivan, sanjay, it has to be intravenous in a hospital, right? you're not going to get it in your house. >> i've never heard of it outside the medical setting. not only is it intravenous but it's a continuous thing. if you stop giving it, within a few minutes, the person wakes up. you have to give it continuously. >> larry: given for colonoscopy, cat racket surgery. >> the person goes down quickly and wakes up quickly. it has a very short half life. >> larry: what would the appeal be as you would guess to a layman. >> it's interesting because i've talked to lots of different anesthesiologists who use this regularly. it's not really creating sleep, it's creating anesthesia, like a medically induced coma. the idea is when you do start taking it you get a high feeling and then you're out. not only are you out, you don't remember anything about that time period. so if you're trying to get sleep. >> larry: i was out, i asked when the procedure was going to be done, it was already

. >> pediatric neurosurgeon dr. michael tobias wants to see fewer children show up in his office. he knows what can happen when a child takes a bike ride without a key piece of protection. if you're wondering which helmet to buy, consumer reports put a dozen of them through some tough tests to see how well they stand up. they ranged in price from 18 to $50. this test simulates what happens when your head takes a hit. and this test shows the impact of sudden force to the strap and buckle on the helmet to see whether they stretch or break. that helps determine whether the head gear would come off in an accident. but a helmet is only good if it fits correctly. this popular hannah montana denim helmet is supposed to fit children 8 and up, but tests showed it's too big for some 8- year-olds and just right for some adults. >> a good-fitting helmet should fit snugly. >> reporter: it should be level and no more than one outwore fingers width above the brow. the straps should form a v. the schwinn thrasher tested very well and it's a best buy for $20. now, you're going to need to adjust th

. >> you're a neurosurgeon. >> i'm a neurosurgeon, but the anesthesiologists are there, monitoring thection very continuously when a medication like this is used. >> i've read about it, it has a short life in the body in that you come right back up, allegedly. >> that's one of the attractive things about this. it works very quickly and goes away very quickly. so you can put someone under very fast and then have them wake up. so you can check to see good they're okay. >> so i'm wondering if your body met ab lieses it quickly, and that brings up a point about the toxicology results, would they even show up. >> that's a great question. and this is such an unusual circumstance that i've been learning a lot myself, frankly, talking to people who do this sort of work. it does go away quickly, so unless you test it right at the time, you may not see it. and probably what you're looking for is the breakdown products, starts to break down in the body, and metabolites. but your point is good, this direct line between propofol and cardiac arrest may be tough to draw. so instead medical examiners

the waiting list to get to see a neurosurgeon, five weeks the 30 weeks.ment. then there is the institute of economic our affairs -- economic affairs, saying that these are the worst systems in the world. people are worried that the quality and wait time will go down. why do you think they are wrong? >> it will be american health care reform. it will not be canadian or british. we may learn from their mistakes. lessons learned, learning from what was successful and what was not successful. but it will be an american system that will be based on our culture and diversity. and other issues that we go through every day. i do not think that it will be canadian or british. i think it will be an american system. megyn: thank you for coming on and telling your story. >> thank you for having me. bill: in a moment, freedom of speech, not for the owners of a shopping mall in north carolina. new developments in the case of a businessman who got the boot for selling products with a conservative theme. megyn: on the docket today in "kelly's court," a sex crimes prosecu

if that same waitress says, i want to be a neurosurgeon in three years, that's not a reasonable aspirationwhat i'd like to achieve or accomplish, that it be something that you can actually achieve. so you're successful. >> you have to understand too probably that it's not going to be a piece of cake to get there. >> exactly. and that's -- you know, here's where you're starting from. here's what you need to get to. you need to look at the obstacles. what's in the way. sometimes what happens is people look at the obstacles, and they get paralyzed. let's say your hope for the future is you want to find your soul mate. you want to find the person you need to be with for the rest of your life. and you look, but i never leave my apartment. that may seem like such a big obstacles to you that you can't overcome it. you look at it objectively and say that's something i need to do differently. >> do you think people over or under estimate their obstacle. >> both. some people over estimate them and get paralyzed, and some people say, oh, no, no, that won't be a problem. you have to be accurate. if yo

chief medical correspondent and practicing neurosurgeon, dr. sanjay gupta. i feel like i'm going to give you an award. this question right out of the gate from vanessa in el paso. listen for that moment. >> caller: hi, dr. gupta, i'm from el paso, texas. i am a mother -- working mother of two, happily married, i hate to admit, but i haven't had health insurance for about five years. my employer does offer their insurance, but the premiums are very high and my family cannot afford. i'm hoping that the new house reform bill passes soon, so what my question is, if the president does sign this bill in october, how long would i have to wait before i can sign up for the new public plan? thank you. >> all right, vanessa, first of all, thanks for calling in. this actually gets, i think, a myth overall regarding how quick this might take place. talking about it a lot now and people think it's going to be instantaneous. this is going to take a while. quite a while, i think, surprising. we try to create a time line for people to get an idea. again to caveat being we do

things up a bit, we're calling on our insider, cnn chief medical kaernt acorre and practicing neurosurgeon is with us. you worked on this issue closely with the clinton administration, health care reform the first time around, if you will. a lot of questions still this time around, we know that. let's start with one from our own i-reporter. jason rogers has this question. >> four years ago my father was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. for 18 months we fought that disease with everything that we had, because we felt like every day was precious. we felt like every day that we kept him alive we were one day closer to a cure for that disease. i guess my question is, under a public option or government-run health care system, would that type of care be possible? is that something that ten years from now we'll have to sacrifice or come up with a tremendous amount of cash to pay for, because it would be rationed under our government-run health care system. >> jason, first, thanks for sharing that personal story. our best wishes are with you and your family. the idea of rationing really stri

cancer of hospital university of maryland ranked 33rd in the country, and in best nuregey and neurosurgeon ri, sinai ranked 38. and baltimore hospital in general burny, 33rd. for more information log ton to balance bank balance and click on -- to wbaltv.com and click on "medical alert." >> experts at the university of north carolina chapel hill found 13% of people studied who dug in the sand had some sort of illness later on, most likely castro intestimony natural problems. more than one in four people that buried themselves in the sand later got sick. experts are discouraging people from getting buried in the sand. they recommend using hand sanitize after playing in the sand. >> and in the height of summer camping season, a warning and reminder to parents -- be on the lookout for flu symptoms. one maryland camp ended early because dozens of kids had flu- like symptoms. >> the sandy hill camp felt the impact of the summer of flu. 25 campers had flu-like symptoms. two tested positive for flu. state health officials assumed it to be h1n1. so some 185 campers were sent home as a precaution. h

you, john and carol, i write prescriptions for narcotic medications all the time in my job for a neurosurgeonients getting these medications elsewhere? are they doctor shopping. how easy is it? i decided with the help of my producer, he's going to follow me inside and we're going to put this to the test. let's take a look. >> reporter: that took about 15 minutes, about $20 on my charge card, they asked me for my address and i walked out with 40 pills of narcotics. the pharmacist in here has done nothing illegal at all, the real question i have is, how much more narcotics could i possibly obtain today. take a look. >> so we made our way to another pharmacy to try to figure out. i've got another prescription here, can i get my hands on more narcotics? >> hi, how are you? >> doing well. >> can i get that filled? >> can i see your i.d.? >> and the keyword here is as needed. there's more information about the medicine, again, just be careful. >> okay. >> when i -- when a patient comes in for these types of pills, how do you know that they're not doctor shopping our getting pills from all sorts of

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. >> the neurosurgeons told us that within 18 months he was going to be is00% recovered. >> reporter:tead of a full recovery, josh died. not from his injuries, but from an infection he got while in the hospital. >> nobody ever thinks that they're going to go into a hospital only to be made more ill. rirchlt yet, it is xwredly common. josh is one of 99,000 people that die from these infections each year. according to the cdc, 1.7 million people who check into hospitals get sicker and stay longer. these hospital acquired infections, an accepted cost of doing business. >> most of us really believe that you couldn't eliminate these conditions, this we just had to come to live with them. >> reporter: and the cost is staggering. $40 billion a year. medicare and medicaid recently announced they would no longer cover infections acquired in hospitals. many of which are scrambling to cut financial losses by lowering infection rates. >> so you are sging 51 patients didn't make it out of the hospital? >> well, actually, 21 patients died, and the rest ended up going to a nursing facility. >> repor

came to the u.s., 26 people were with the cross the border for brain surgery due to a lack of neurosurgeonscan count story after story in this discussion, but the most compel thing to me was the other day when i spoke to the border guard reported to me the must bes daily of people that are crossing the border from canada to the united states for cancer treatment, mris and other emergency treatment. and he wondered why people in the u.s. were glorifying the canadian system. we have government websites that post targeted goals for wait times in our areas. as well as the average wait time and sadly, we are never near target. lost in the language is coverage. the basics that americans have complained to me about not being covered is not covered in our government plan. things like prescription medicine, eye exams, unless you're referred to an ophthalmologist and the wait times to see ophthalmologists are up to one year. hearing tests, and even things like a cast on your leg if how is break it. the doctor tending your injuries will be paid for his services but you would be out of pocket for the c

as you know, i'm a neurosurgeon and there is a lot of progress being made in the world of brain cancerou raise strikes at the heart of all this because it talks about costs and access. the question is would we have to ration health care in order to make sure everyone gets health care insurance. it is a tough question to sort of delve into. a "new york times" editorial caught a lot of people's attention, it shocked some people, others said it was just the reality of what was necessary. what peter singer, a professor of bioethics at princeton says, the death of a teenager is a greater tragedy than the death of an 85-year-old and this should be reflected in our priorities. it gives us this idea that are some lives more valuable than others and should we prioritize based on that. it is a really striking and sometimes scary concept. jason, we took your particular story directly to the white house to get an idea of how they would respond based on everything that's going on around health care reform. here's what they specifically said. "our hort goeart goes out to jad his family. we know that

sides of the aisle, so we'll bring in our chief medical correspondent, who is a doctor, who is a neurosurgeonwho is certainly, because of your reporting and because of your job, knows this health care reform front and back here. you used to work at the white house during the clinton administration. when that health care reform push was trying to be pushed through, at what point did you see, it just kind of start to fall by the wayside? i mean, do you recognize something here? that maybe -- >> there are some parallels. a lot of people think of the clinton plan as sort of dead on arrival, but it was very popular as you might remember, robin, in the beginning. but by sort of april of that year, '93, it was about 51% and by august about 44% in terms of its support. very similar numbers to what we're seeing with obama. about 44% now at the end of july. what i will say is different is from is a lot more consensus of people around this plan, including the insurance industry. he had all these harry and louise ads. people thought the ads may have sunk the plan eventually. and president obama has been

came to the u.s., 26 people were with the cross the border for brain surgery due to a lack of neurosurgeonscount story after story in this discussion, but the most compel thing to me was the other day when i spoke to the border guard reported to me the must bes daily of people that are crossing the border from canada to the united states for cancer treatment, mris and other emergency treatment. and he wondered why people in the u.s. were glorifying the canadian system. we have government websites that post targeted goals for wait times in our areas. as well as the average wait time and sadly, we are never near target. lost in the language is coverage. the basics that americans have complained to me about not being covered is not covered in our government plan. things like prescription medicine, eye exams, unless you're referred to an ophthalmologist and the wait times to see ophthalmologists are up to one year. hearing tests, and even things like a cast on your leg if how is break it. the doctor tending your injuries will be paid for his services but you would be out of pocket for the cast,

i came to the u.s., 26 people were whisked across the border for brain surgery to to a lack of neurosurgeons. i could tell story after story in this discussion, but the most compelling thing to me was the other day, when i spoke to the border guard, he reported to me the numbers daily of people crossing the border from canada to the united states for cancer treatment, and our eyes, and other emergency treatment. -- cancer treatment, mris, and other emergency treatment. we have the average wait times in our area and we are sadly never near the target. lost in the language is coverage. the the basis that americans complain to me about not being covered are things like prescriptions, i exams, and the wait times to see an ophthalmologist are up to one year. hearing tests, even things like the cast on your leg if you should break it, the doctor tending your injury will be paid for his services, but you will be out of pocket for the cast, the crutches, the physical therapy, and the ambulance ride. i am saddened by the glib attitude that if it did not happen to me that it cannot be true. canadians