that you want money if you meaned to states like nevada or michigan, where the unemployment is really high. so how do you get -- how do you create jobs? i think rich and mike, they're asking the right questions. how do you do it? corporate tax cut, where the highest -- one of the highest in the world in corporate tax rates. >> but it's not just about dependency here. it's about being able to put food on the table. that's really the only way they can do that if they don't have a job, food statches. whether this is a burden on local governments, the food stamp program is a is a national organization. >> what's the best way to help the poor? keeping them on the dole or be product snive i would say they really do want to be product and i have make money for their own families. >> everyone's talking about social policy. they need to feed the poor. but the point is we're trying to stimulus the economy here. that's the point of the bill. what would be a staster constitutes police, i would say rates should be cut drastically and cut way back on government spending. we need a policy from the f

five states now top the 10% mark with michigan now over 15% unemployment and rhode island, oregon, south carolina and nevada all at or2%. jason is a political reporter for the huffington post. the obama stimulus was designed to keep unemployment from double digits. looks like it's going to reach there. that's a big problem, isn't it? >> i would say a huge problem. it's now presented the administration with a bit of a sticky. they have to suggest the next move. the next move i think has been characterized by many as an additional stimulus package. i think they'd be going down the wrong road if they tried to sell a second stimulus package. the need is to address jobs. they need to concentrate on writing a job fill and writing good policy. >> what about the argument that the unemployment numbers, as bad as it is, it would be even higher if the administration had followed the republican advice of simply passing tax cuts? >> that doesn't sound like an attitude that promotes the attitude of a president. promising this would keep it below 8%, now it's over 9%. the key here is when the -- you've got to stop digging. >> jason