>> this is neville thurlbeck. >> is it colin myler he is talking to?eck talking to tom crone. "i looked at it. 'i don't know, tom. i never received it. i don't know.' i'm looking at it and saying: 'clearly, it's hacked. who is it? you'd better speak to x. somebody must have asked x to do this. i mean, x was asked to do so many of these by people on the newsdesk at the time. he would know. he would have to be pretty dumb [not to know]. so, tom comes to me and i give him a full explanation. 'tom, this had nothing to do with me. we discussed things.' 'right, fine,' he said. 'however, this shows that this had gone through the office. it's gone through the office; it's gone through x, through his computer in the office, so clearly news international are culpable and we're going to have to settle. and i'm going to have to show this to james murdoch.' the reason i can remember him saying that was because i said to him, 'please, do you have to show him this? because he's going to assume the worst of me and he's going to think it's all to do with me. is there a

crone told us as far as neville thurlbeck. i questioned neville thurlbeck then and i questioned the same subject at his position is he is never seen the e-mail nor had any knowledge of it. .. >> i think that's -- with respect, i think that's a question for this committee to judge the evidence given to it. i have been very clear that i believe this committee was given evidence with executives either without full possession of until facts or that was not as complete as it should have been, and i'm sorry for that, and the company is. this is -- it's not good, and it's something that i'm determined to make sure doesn't happen again. um, it is something, you know, the only thing i can speak to with respect to the evidence, and i made a statement to this effect, is, that, you know, assertions made about my knowledge were wrong. >> mr. krone also said when he came back for the first time, that's you, realized that news of the world was involved, and on that basis he authorized a settlement. he couldn't have been more cat goeric. agai

crone told us as far as neville thurlbeck. i questioned neville thurlbeck then and i questioned the same subject at his position is he is never seen the e-mail nor had any knowledge of it. .. >> i think that's -- with respect, i think that's a ques given to it. i have been very clear that i believe this committee was given evidence with executives either without full possession of until facts or that was not as complete as it should have been, and i'm sorry for that, and the company is. this is -- it's not good, and it's something that i'm determined to make sure doesn't happen again. um, it is something, you know, the only thing i can speak to with respect to the evidence, and i made a statement to this effect, is, that, you know, assertions made about my knowledge were wrong. >> mr. krone also said when he came back for the first time, that's you, realized that news of the world was involved, and on that basis he authorized a settlement. he couldn't have been more cat goeric. again, how does that reflect -- >> could you repe

i questioned neville thurlbeck then and i questioned the same subject at his position is he is never seen the e-mail nor had any knowledge of it. .. how do you think that reflects on mr. crone's reiblity as a wid? >> i think that's, with respect, i think that's a question for this committee to judge the evidence given to it. i have been very clear that i believe that this committee was given evidence by executives either without full possession of the facts or that was not as complete as it should have been and i'm sorry for that. that was not good and i'm determined to make sure it cuzz -- doesn't happen again. the only thing i am -- i can speak to with respect to -- respect to the evidence and the assertions that mr. crone and mr. mile -- myler said without my knowledge were wrong. >> yes, mr. crone said the first time he een more cat goeric. again, how does that reflect >> could you repeat that >> yes, he came back to the committee to say of the settlement authorization for the first time you, he, that's you, realized "news of the world" was involved and that it involved people be