president howard and nevin. >> can i ask director callahan another question? >> sure. >> earlier we heard from the aclu their belief that the corroded restraint would be a policy decision and not a personnel issue to the meet and confer i'm wondering to the major issues in yellow which is the corroded restraint duty to not raise impact weapon above the head shots fired the issue around shooting and moving vehicles what is your view whether these are policy issues a meet and confer versus personnel or work place issues that would be suggest to meet and confer. >> as much as i would like to start off without preparing i'm not going to do that at this point i think slay good argument these are policy matters and certainly the decision would not be subject to meet and confer but to the impact or extent it involves safety what will happen is we will be in consultation with our attorneys and case law and standards and take our position. if we believe it is not suggest to meet and confer process because it has no significant impact or funtmental policy issue etcetera

making ends meeting, this is the site of the golden spike where they broad the transcount nevin railroadingthe 17th governor. he joins us from the state capitol in salt lake city. governor, i've been following your state for the ten years formed you've never been a state to rest on yours laurels, so what is left to do? >> we can still build. we're not perfect. we're striving for perfection, but this is a great hon ore. thank you for recognizing utah, and i agree 100%. no state is perfect. i want to ask you about a controversy that's been raging that has an inns la rely station and that's the issue of the state giving a loan to one company to gift port fa what can you tell tuns that you're not to get a fair shake here? >> well, again there's a misrepresentation in what's happening in oakland to have us access a port to sell leaf products. in exporting of coal. that's a different issue. the environment in utah, was very business friendly. we kept faith with the fundamentals that have made america great in the past. we have competitive tax rates. making sure are -- for the wealth creator, and

administrative nevin jer, one of which i very much applaud was a ludicrous practice of having subordinates recommending bonuses for their superiors. definition of insanity and how that could happen in the federal agency is beyond me. glad you stopped it and will not happen again. despite these efforts, however, much more needs to be done to give the american people security they need from a tsa responsible to reforms and ethical in its operations. as public servants, tsa personnel must be held to the highest ethical standards and highest moral caliber if we are entrusting them with the lives of traveling americans. unfortunately, tsa management has often saw punitive actions against responsible employees and attempted to speak out, whistle-blowers, rather than taking their concerns seriously. this is unacceptable. covering up or discouraging individuals from speaking out only perpetuates a negative culture and serves as a direct result and assault on employee morale. employee misconduct, particularly the sort that compromises security and wastes taxpayer dollars must not be permitted to co

administrative nevin jer, one of which i very much applaud was a ludicrous practice of having subordinates recommending bonuses for their superiors. definition of insanity and how that could happen in the federal agency is beyond me. glad you stopped it and will not happen again. despite these efforts, however, much more needs to be done to give the american people security they need from a tsa responsible to reforms and ethical in its operations. as public servants, tsa personnel must be held to the highest ethical standards and highest moral caliber if we are entrusting them with the lives of traveling americans. unfortunately, tsa management has often saw punitive actions against responsible employees and attempted to speak out, whistle-blowers, rather than taking their concerns seriously. this is unacceptable. covering up or discouraging individuals from speaking out only perpetuates a negative culture and serves as a direct result and assault on employee morale. employee misconduct, particularly the sort that compromises security and wastes taxpayer dollars must not be permitted to co

host: let's hear from nevin in tennessee, independent line. caller: good morning.w if it was addressed, but are both candidates getting cia state of the world briefings? i do not know if one can be trusted. he is encouraging the russians to look to and spy, so i don't know if both of them should be getting secret briefings because one of them cannot be trusted. host: final word comes from kathy in fremont, california, democrat. go, kathy. caller: hi. i was really glad to see a child in the roll call the north the lady was holding the child. i went to the republican convention in detroit, kansas city, and i was holding my doctor, nine months old, and someone encouraged me to take her further up the hall because reagan was coming by. he just walked right by us, so it was really enlightening for me to see a child there, so i am wondering what hillary will say about family and children. in fremont,as kathy california. that close is "washington journal" from philadelphia. we will be back at 7:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. c-span will be live all day and all evening with eve