the new bordeaux.ay around the 1850s. >> peter: right. >> anthony: might have been, himself, a seeker of some kind of utopian dreams. >> pedro: but they were originally from france? >> anthony: from france. yes. >> pedro: what city, do you know? >> anthony: my great-great-grandfather was from near bordeaux. so, i'm, i'm curious about this whole episode of the settlement of nouveau bordeaux. >> anthony: the paraguay river still, as it was a hundred and fifty years ago, the country's main artery; a thoroughfare for transporting people and goods. so, who lives out there? all the people we see fishing on the, uh, riverbanks? are they fishing for dinner? >> peter: most of them are fishing for dinner. call them poor people. but what is poor? they decide by themselves to live here. they could go to asunción and start working on a construction place tomorrow. >> anthony: peter has organized a trip upriver to see new bordeaux, what was hoped would be a new france in the chaco. >> peter: the fish we bought today