my two younger children went to public school in new brunswick maryland which had lots of working-class kids. we would go to the final ceremony for all the kids and to find out where they were going to college and what scholarships they got. i'm familiar with kids who don't go to college about an update test well of the more common phenomenon is they don't go to the elite colleges for reasons that aren't just thing and when you do have those who don't go to college it's not as there's no way they can afford it. it is because of familial cultural characteristics which discourage them from it and here we open a topic of conversation which gets very complicated and let me cut to the chase. i don't think government does that area well. with the government does effectively is write checks. i think of the data basic guaranteed income that would do far more to open up college. >> host: let's become us for a minute and i only pulled a college example of a excessive think it's a pro. esque i think one of ronald reagan's jokes that i believe in most deeply is the most terrifying words are i am fr