movements against climate change and genetically modified organisms and she joins me now from new delhi vandana shiva thank you for joining me on the front and maybe when it comes to climate change today who or what is enemy number one in your view climate change of course isn't a person it's the result of the actions of a responsible actor. primarily the fossil fuel industry and fossil fuel or derived industrial agriculture including the poison cartel they created a handful of companies that started in germany moved on to sell chemicals the pesticides the fertilizer so i want to say the problem is chemical industrial fossil fuels this farming and the solution is ecological by davis coming in than the small farmer given the india is the world's 3rd largest emitter now of greenhouse gases after china in the united states how much support do you think there is in your country to take on climate change and make the kinds of sacrifices and cuts to emissions that are absolutely urgently required to avoid a climate catastrophe. well for the tribal who was fighting against big corporations to stop coal mini