bill would include $5 billion but the senate bipartisan bill includes 1 poin, that would be for new fencing, largely in california, and in specific areas of the brrd. that's something democrats have agreed to so there is a plan out there right now that has $1.6 billion for the wall that both parties have agreed to. the trouble of course, is that is a lot less than $5 billion from the white house and in this meeting on tuesday that was televised, and it was an extraordinary exchange with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer president trump said he was going to demand the $5 billion and not accept the $1.6 billion. >> what are you hearing in terms of what his advisers are telling him at this point now that he's dug in this deep to the border wall? >> so, there's not a lot of people in the white house who are really gunning for a shut down at this point. the republicans are going to be in the final days of their majority in the house. the senate republicans would like to see things done and don't want to be blamed for a shut down. there are advisers in the white house that have pressured trump to ac

later, there were pictures of new fences, what they look like. i encountered lots of pictures in the urban areas in the 1940's and 1950's where new gates were constructed. i have a wonderful image of a woman walking over a fence that has fallen over. one of my favorite pictures and i use it a lot when i talk about the issue of women crossing the border. >> when you discuss this with your peers or teaching, what are the biggest misconceptions? what do you want people to take away from your research and work? prof. mendoza: i think two things which we mostly highlighted -- the first is this is not new. early on, they had nothing to do with human migration. that has really changed over time. that change signifies a particular way of thinking about mexico, latinos, mexican people, people from central america. we reappropriated things that are used to control the movement of new animals to control the movement of humans. that is particularly dehumanizing. we talk a lot about that in my class. the other pieces, particularly the middle of the 20th centu

source, the white house is currently offering $2.1 billion for border security that includes a new fencinglus 400 million for other immigration priorities. vice president mike pence and incoming act acting chief of staff current budget director mulvaney met with chuck schumer this weekend and mulvaney said they gave sumer a counter offer and it's less than the long touted 5 million. >> we were at 5 billion a couple days ago and the counteroffer we gave them yesterday was between those two numbers. >> but, 2.3 -- >> we moved off of the five and we hope they move up from 2.3. >> president trump says he wants the sort of steel slat barrier at the u.s. and mexico border. some say the president doesn't understand the situation on the ground. >> he doesn't get that the drugs are coming through tunnels, that they need high-security sensors, all of that, we are supporting. the things that are effectively support. broader negotiations? let's have them. >> democrats say they are getting mixed messages from the white house and hearing different things about with the president would accept or not acce

on earth russia would bother with a massive dissin from asian campaign in alabama of all places new fence taliban of both come on as juicy a targets room or himself was clueless about it had no idea why this was happening so as is republican tradition he blamed the democrats for setting him up the democrats as a source are tradition change the subject and insulted him maybe more should check with putin who shares his views on depriving people of their civil rights here is where it gets really good the new york times did some digging and found a report titled the alabama project and figured out those weren't putin's bots at all they were faked dressed up to look like russian bots. we orchestrated and a labrat false flag operation that planted the idea that the more campaign was amplified on social media by a russian but that i've seen some dirty stuff and politics all over the world but this this is platinum tear this on this deplorable and dirty tricks turns out it was all of fake psyop orchestrated by a group of i.t. experts who wanted to help the democrat win by cheating by lying and by

it's not to build new fences, new wall, et cetera. it's explicitly restricted from that use. so far chuck schumer is willing to move to zero dollars and under the current procedural posture, it does require democratic votes to pass any budget agreement. and there is a fourth plan on the table, and it is of course the one the house passed that included the $5.7 billion. and my last point is it is very rich to hear chuck schumer say, oh, gosh, this isn't a good expenditure of $5 billion. i'm so glad chuck schumer has discovered frugality finally, but it's only on a program that is the president's campaign issue. and look, he got elected on this. >> nina -- >> it makes sense for the president to fight for it. >> does this mean that the government will remain closed unless there is specific wall funding, not border funding as, you know, part of this proposal, but it has to specifically spell out wall funding, and if not, then government will remain closed? is that where we're going? >> that seems very much like what the president is staking his entire presidency on, not things li

this new fence markshe spot year ago, a drunk driver flew down the street. >> went through the house'st, hit the house, and the person on the passenger's side flew out of the car and the car crushed him. i think he passed away. >> that car came to rest in this grassy area. the passenger was killed. the driver charged with involuntary manslaughter. >>> cyber security experts suggest the russian efforts have been more widespread than previously thought. >> the researchers say it involved tapping into majorue social i and targeting particular voters. j this it fascinating. they were going after frican-american voters durin the 2016 election. can you give us an idea how they were doing it? was it effective? did it work? >> it appears it did. these were russians posing as americans across our social media platt forms. facebook, twitter. we've heard about this. we didn't understand the sent to which they were targeti african-americans to suppress the black vote. they were undermining confidence in hillary clinton and encouraging voter for third party candidates o saying don't have any part i

in favor of spending $40 billion on a border security plan that called for building 700 miles of new fencing, and would have doubled the number of border security agents to roughly 40,000. it got bipartisan support and passioned in the senate but failed in the republican controlled house. so in the past, democrats supporting $40 billion on border security. they made it very clear now that they will not spend billions of dollars to pay for president trump's border wall. >> so, mr. president, president trump, if you want to open the government, you must abandon the wall. >> the current funding bill president trump is insisting on includes $5 billion for dhs, which will be able to replace about 115 miles of existing wall. it will also pay for more than 100 miles of new linear wall or steel slat, that's his new go-to along the southwest border. the u.s.-mexico border is 1,000954 miles long. there are currently about 650 miles of border fencing already built. it's seen here highlighted in red. you can do the math there. that's really what this government shutdown is all about since president trum

. >> the latest offer from the white house is 2.1-billion dollars for border security including new fencingd $400 million for other immigration priorities. the white house is not commenting on the counter offer. if negotiations are going to progress, it's important for democrats to acknowledge that physical barriers need to be part of the package. >> the president just doesn't get it. the things we are effective we suspect. >> nancy pelosi and the top senate democrat chuck schumer released a statement that said different people from the same white house are saying different things about what the president would accept or not accept to end the trump shutdown making had impossible to know where they stand. the president wants the shutdown but didn't know how to get out of it. president trump planed to spend christmas in mar-a-lago but instead stayed in washington. the first lady returning to spend the holidays at the white house along side her husband. the president spending today on twitter. i am all alone in the white house waiting for the democrats to come back. he went after corker tweeti

democratic senator chuck schume a counter offer reportedly around $2.5 million for border security, new fencing and then some sort of/fun for immigratio priorities for democrats is tha they feel like they are hearing so many different things from different people at the white house about what the president will will not accept. they say it's difficult to know where the white house stands at this point. we've heard the white house tal about the $5 billion #be needed that. the big sticking point for the white house has been and remain to be wanting some sort of physical barrier at the u.s. mexico border. >> never a dull day at the whit house. thank you so much. >> qubit. >> the markets are closed for the holiday after the dhows worst christmas you drop ever which followed the presidents latest tweet storm attacking th federal reserve and questionabl moves by his treasury secretary. more on all of this commentary writer for the washington examiner merry christmas. >> merry christmas and thank yo for having me. >> we want to get to all of these things that the president just touched on moments ago.

they agreed this summer to $1.6 billion for new fencing. if you can tweet that design, the white house came to schumer and talked about $2.1 billion before the shut down, they are only $500 million apart in the budget. they can be very close, however nancy pelosi is not yet speaker and she will be on thursday. perhaps then talks can get serious. >> if it seems like financially we may be getting closer, the language is still very different. i'm wondering, is it important, the distinction between what some call wall and others call border security. does it matter or is it one in the same? >> it depends on the listeners. they don't like the drumming on about the wall and only the wall. they have been talking about a mixed border security solution. you can't physically have a wall along the border. it does not work top graphically with land rights or the rivers there, too. the gop has known that for a long time. they don't like the singular focus on the wall. parts of trump's base really do. they are talking that some of his advisers are not ta

sources says the latest offer the white house is $2.1 billion for border security and that includes new fencings 400 million for other immigration priorities, the white house somebody not commentinthe details of the counter-offer, a senior administration official said if negotiations are going to progress, it's important for democrats that physical barriers need to be part of the package. >> the president's building in understanding the law he doesn't get. we support things that are effective. broader negotiations, let's have them. >> and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer released a statement today, said in part, different people from the same white house are saying different things about what the president would accept or not accept to end his trump shutdown making it impossknow where they stand at any given moment. the president wanted the shutdown, but he seems not to know how to get himself out of it. president trump planned to spent place in mar-a-lago but stayed in washington. the first lady is returning tock spend the holidays at the white house alongside her husband. she's spending time al

source tells the news that the latest offer from the white house is $2.1 billion and that includes new fencing. plus $400 million for other immigration priorities. so far the white house is not commenting on the details of the counter offer. if you administration official told reporters on saturday that negotiations are going to progress and it is important for democrats to acknowledge the physical barriers need to be a part of the package. >>> the president vision and the understanding, he does not get it. the things are effective we support. further negotiations, but have them. >> reporter: nancy pelosi and chuck schumer released a statement today the set and part different people from that the same white house are saying different things about what the president would accept or not accept to end his trumpet shutdown. this making it impossible to know where they stand at any given moment. the president wanted to shut down but he seems not to know how to get himself out of it. president trump on tuesday and was missed in his home but instead he stayed in washington. the first lady, who left f

sources gave our mike emanuel a specific number, $2.1 billion for border security including new fencing plus $400 million for other security priorities. still, schumer's office rejected it. his spokesman, quote: the vice president came in and made an offer, unfortunately, we're still very far apart. asked today why won't democrats give a little on border wall funding, oregon senator jeff merkley responded this way: >> because we're absolutely willing to fund border security. the american people want us to spend money in a smart way. $5 billion is a lot of money. that's $650,000 -- 650,000 children attending head start. it's 2 million meals a day for a year for seniors. and to spend it on a forty century strategy -- fourth century strategy, it's something we're just not going to do. >> reporter: but there is some question whether any number would satisfy democrats. republicans believe that it's nancy pelosi who's really pulling the strings here. she's running for house speaker when the new congress gavels in in january, and she cannot afford to lose the votes of a new crop of far left de

the administration's offer is roughly $2.5 billion of border security and a new wall or new fencing. >> we made that clear to the democrats that we are not going to negotiate in the press but the president has been willing to negotiate on this plan. the democrats have not been willing to do anything and that's the sad part. they care more about keeping our borders open then keeping our government open. >> president trump tweeting "we will be forced to close the southern border entirely if the obstructionist democrats do not give us the funding to build the wall." if the threat to close the southern border is serious and asked why it would be worth the potential had to the economy, he said that all options are on the table. as for the democrats, a spokesperson for nancy pelosi said the democrats have offered republicans three options to reopen the government and they will only include funding for a strong, sensible border security but not the wall which they described as immoral, ineffective, and expensive. democrats have not been invited to the white house for discussion of late, the

giving senate democrats -- but offering them $2.5 billion, 2.1 billion for border security including new fencing, that is less than the 5 billion that the president initially asked for, but more than what democrats are said to be offering saying that it is impossible to know where the white house stands, because they say that they are hearing different things from different people about what the president is willing to accept. nancy pelosi told "usa today" that he says we are going to build a wall with cement and mexico will pay for it, he has already backed off of the cement, now he is down to i think a beaded curtain or something i'm not sure where he is. despite the government shutdown the president said construction and renovations underway at the southern border, and that he awarded a contract in the oval office. >> yesterday i gave out 115 miles worth of wall. 115 miles in texas. and it is going to be built, hopefully you rapidly. i'm going there at the end of january. for the start of construction. that is a big stretch. we gave it at a great price. we will have a great while they are and

spokesman says the latest offer from the white house is 2.14 billion border security and that includes new fencing. plus, 400 million for other immigration priorities. so far the white house is not commenting on the details of the counteroffer. senior administration official told reporters on saturday if negotiations are going to progress it's important for democrats to acknowledge the physical barriers need to be part of the package. >> the president's vision and understanding -- he just doesn't get it. if the things that are effectively support. broader a negotiations, let's he them. >> incoming house speaker nancy pelosi at the top senate democratic minority leader chuck schumer released a statement today that said in part "different people from the same white house are saying different things about what the president would accept or p not accept to end his trump shutdown making it impossible to know where they stand at any given moment. the president wanted to shut down but he seems not to know how to getts himself out of it. a president trump plan to spend christmas at his home in mar-a-lago.

that includes new fencing, plus $400 million for another -- other immigration priority. >> i went downo the border a couple of times, and i must say when you talk with the border guards, they fill you in on what is really happening to say the president's vision and understanding, it just is not to get it. he does not get that the drugs are coming through tunnels and that they need high-security sensors, does not need personnel, all of that we are supporting. at the things that are effective, we support. broader negotiations, let's have them. >> around 2:00 today, the president is set to meet with the homeland security secretary and some other officials from dhs, but the topic will be border security. >> julie: allison barber, thank you very much. let's bring in the first guest, senator tim scott serving on the finance and armed services committees. attending the white house meeting as well on friday to discuss the spending fight and border wall funding. thank you for talking to us. i understand that no democrats were present at that meeting? >> no, i was not at that meeting as well. i

it's $200 million of actual new fencing on the rio grande river and about $900 million of repairing fenceso 30 feet of bollard fencing, what customs and border patrol said they want. the administration should be taking credit for what they got and the new bill has another $1.6 billion. it's actually the first new funding in ten years delivering on the president's commitment to actually build a wall. >> i understand what you're saying, yes, there is funding that have been used for these border barriers but it isn't the wall the president promised, in fact, specifically cited it can't be for the wall as he promised it. but i do understand what you're saying. >> john, to that point, what the president said after the campaign is customs and border patrol career officers came and said, here's the wall that we want. here is the fencing that we want. that's the plan the administration submitted to congress to get funding that congress has funded. so, in fact, that is the white house proposal. that is what is actually congress supporting. i understand democrats are in a tough spot because they wan

is at the beginning of this year, this administration, donald trump, asked for $1.6 billion for new fencing, new wall, 65 miles at the southwest border, the senate provided it and the house provided it. a good politician would have declared victory and all of those radio show hosts would have said, hey, the president is building the wall. instead, because of his egg shell ego around midsummer, he said, it should be $5 billion, not 1.6 and now can't get the $5 billion and why he's in the position he's in. he's been a terrible politician on this issue. as simple as the message was at his campaign rallies, the reality is in executing, he could have declared victory already but screwed the entire thing up. >> that is something that i do not understand because democrats took a lot of heat from a lot of people in their base for agreeing at one point to a funding bill that would have given donald trump a fig leaf of saying, i'm building the wall. in exchange for da kachcca but because the base doesn't want dacca or mercy for people in the country undocumented, he gave up on that. mexico is not pay

been constructed despite the president's claims as the president has said, and there has been more new fencing, but no concrete wall as he indicate and many of the journalists have repeatedly called him out on it, andrea. >> and mexico is of course not going to pay for any of this going back to the original claim. and leon pa nett ta is going to join us, and thank you, peter, as we are joined by a former chief of staff and former secretary of defense, and omb -- have you ever seen a public display of that kind of fight between congressional leaders of one party and the president of another? >> andrea, we have just seen a perfect example of how not to govern the country. to have that the dispute and to do it openly before the press at a time when they do need to sit down and see if there is a way to work out a deal here. but the confront each other that way and to have everybody yelling at one another, i think that it has just sent a terrible message to the american people about with how the democracy function functions in washington. >> the president was interrupting nancy pelosi from the get-

new fencing, for largely in california and specific areas of the order. that is something that democrats have already agreed to. now it hasplan right $1.6 million -- billion dollars for the wall. in this meeting on tuesday that was televised nationally, it was really extraordinary exchange with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer, president trump repeatedly told them that he would demand the $5 billion and he would not accept the $1.6 billion. >> what are you hearing in terms of what his advisers are telling him at this point, now that he has dug in this deep to the border wall? sarah: there are not a lot of people at the white house really gunning for a shutdown at this point. senate republicans would like to see things done. they do not want to be blamed for a shutdown. there are advisors who have begun to pressure trump to accept a deal that it will be nearly impossible to get the $5 llllion for the wa without causing a dramatic year-end shutdown. on friday afternoon, the president has meetings scheduled with his legislative director , and theydget chief wi

government currently replacing and repairing old fencing, but new border fencing is has not begun. >>re did you rank this? >> it is number one and the falsehood that has defined our entire year, because it is promised to his campaign and defining the presidency and two years of unified government with republicans controlling allel three branchs of government and trying to sneak it under the wire, but at the end of the day, i have gone under every border construction project, and fences and not the big concrete border wall or fencing that we have been promised and so for trump, this is going for everything with him. he sees it as trade, and ties to security, and ties to how other countries look at him as a leader. here wants this win, and his voters want this win and so much that you can see the go fund me for people giving money to build the border wall. >> which is ironic, again, because mexico was supposed to pay for it. and this is something that the president said in september at the united nations. >> in less than two years my administration has accomplished almost more than any

news the latest offer from the white house is 2.1 billion for border security and that includes new fencing priorities. mulvaney says it is possible that this shut down will go into the new year. anita? >> when the white house says they want a physical barrier, we have seen the president tweet out photos of sort of a something with slats is that more amenable to the democrats? do you think they might go for something like that? >> seaferg game of semantics when it comes to this particular fight. the white house says he needs a wall that democrats don't need a wall the white house says it's more so a steel flat barrier. they are calling it a fence, a physical barrier. the president tweeted this photo last week and the white house describes it as a steel flatted fence. they say this is what they want to build they have told the democrats this is exactly what they want to build white house claims the democrats have supported this kind of thing in the past with a secure fence act at best playing a game of semantics want to agree to a wall. don't consider the steel flats to wall at worse. the wh

actually initially said they were open to democratic source tells fox news that the offer is now $2.1 billion and it includes the fencing official telling reporters on saturday and it negotiations progress democrats need to understand the physical barriers need to be part of that new package. >> the president's vision of the wall and he doesn't get it. the things that are effectively support. broader negotiations, let's have them. >> incoming house speaker nancy pelosi, chuck schumer of new york, released a statement yesterday saying in part, different people from the same white house are saying different things about what the president would accept or not accept to end his trump shutdown making it impossible to know where they stand at any given moment. so far the white house has made no comment. >>> some good news tied to the government shutdown. the lights are back on at the national christmas tree. it's right outside the white house. the site was shut down after a man climbed the tree friday. then when the government shutdown there was no money for electrical repairs. support from the national park service, the gene

one role requires companies to comply with the new geo fencing technology.it would halt or slow down scooters in certain geographic locations like sidewalks. another role would require the companies to share data with the city to make it easier to report incidents. the scooter companies will have until july 1 to comply with the new roles where they will be denied permits to continue operating in san jose. >>> a woman from yemen who was permit -- prohibited from seeing her son due to the trump travel ban has been granted a visa. her son suffers from a rare brain disease and is currently on life support. his family says he will not live much longer. his father took his son from yemen to oakland for -- for treatment. she was able to obtain a spousal waiver, which means she is able to come to the u.s. >>> sarah sanders said there are other ways to get the $5 billion president trump wants for a border wall in order to avoid a government shutdown. it is unclear what those other ways are. as ray bogan reports, thousands of migrants gather at the border with mexico

. >> reporter: and thinking thatis in a series of tweets, new security fence will be name shortly, theary 28th and this was one of those shock no sock situations, no shock this was eventually going to happen but a surprise in time. >> he will be missed more than any other member. democrats already vowing to fight donald trump's plan to change work requirements for food stamp recipients just hours after the signing of the $867 bipartisan farmville. the lead democrat involves is debbie stabenow and believe this will face legal challenges. changes under the new bill would cut the amount of healthy people who receive food steps without meeting work requirements by 75%. this will save taxpayers $15 billion over ten years. donald trump expected to sign the criminal justice reform bill today called the first setback, reducing life sentences for some offenders and expands on prisoner rehabilitation efforts among other things, the president tweeting and part, quote, when both parties work together we can keep the country safer. wonderful thing for the usa. todd: democrats on the house judiciary

new technology. and so now we're talking about geo fencing. that is a network of sensors that detect the location of these scooters and lock them out of certain areas. people ride them too fast and in inappropriate places and also these devices cluttering up the sidewalks. and so now san jose will vote on a new set of rules today including geo fencing to stop or slow the scooters on sidewalks and also to permit riding only in bike lanes and permitted areas. also and data shariso wpaes to pay about $125 per scooter and $2,500 per company. the permit program would begin february next year and the deadline to comply is july 1st, 2019. judging by a rough count of all the votes it looks like it will pass. >>> kit thank you. >>> 5:05 right now. former national security adviser michael flynn might be sentenced to prison today. just last week president trump was asked if he believed the fbi acted improperly in how it handled flynn's interview. >> the fbi said michael flynn, a general and a great person they said he didn't lie. and mueller said well ma

this new steel fencing thing the president has started talking about is confusing to even some republicans. he tweeted a photo of this wall with pointed steel flaps and republicans saying i'm not sure where that came from, that was never part of the discussion. that might be the president trying to change the wording to convince comes to come on board. they said they are open to border security, but not a concrete wall. they're saying maybe a steel fence might bring them on board. both sides are going to want to claim victory and it might come down to semantics. >> i have been to rallies where they've chanted build the wall. maybe they can chant build the steel flaps. we'll see what happens. >> they did chant mexico must pay for it also. >> thank you for joining us. merry christmas. president trump starting the new year with a new defense secretary setting an early departure date for james matt is, patrick shanahan will replace james mattis. we've more on these developments. when did the president make this turn on the president? >> reporter: it's been building for months. defense secretar

. >>> since the escape, the state has installed interior fencing and new security, tracking procedures and training. >>> san mateo sheriff is asking for your help in identifying a pair of package pickers. surveillance video captured the pair in the act, one suspect in a green jacket walks up to the front of the porch, attempts to grab the big package, but instead takes the small one. moments later, another suspect appears to take a larger package. they were seen getting into a green saturn station wagon. anyone with information is asked to call police. >>> pretty wild story, a man wedged in a vent above a chinese restaurant. in a kitchen in san lorenzo. he had been there for two days. police suspected he was sneaking in to rob the place which is out of business but didn't quite make it. >>> hundreds of educators staged a protest today for salary increases. >> [ chanting ] >> teachers rallied outside the fremont unified school district then packed a school board meeting. the teachers association says the district has refused to give them sufficient raises to keep up with increasing livi

be a deal 2.5 billion dollars instead of referring to the wall he talked about saying, look at new fencingocus on -- immigration priorities rather than the wall, do you think that is going to change tenor of the conversation at all in that is something we can all agree on? >> i think so, i think it shows the president's willingness to back away interest a wall during campaign even after he was elected he said, quite notably that there is a difference between a wall and fencing here is ironic for all funding we are looking at 215 miles barrier 100 of that for new construction the rage 150 miles for existing barriers medieval like barrier referral to is barrier same democrats voted for in 2006 this is political at its worst. >> what do you think about that, you know, it was interesting because we saw that that during that period nancy pelosi said president trump didn't have votes in the house, not only did he have the votes he got votes from republicans who are completely antiretroacti trumpers, could she miss calculate the rest. >> there is the fact the border wall isn't up hold that well w

year, 1.6 this year, for all kinds of border security, from fences, improving the fences, building new fences to observe what's going on in the border, improved border patrol agent as well as the ports of entry. all of those things, we're for all of that. the president apparently is for a campaign promise and so come on, let's get into what we really need to build and what we need to do. by the way, if you're really concerned about drugs coming into the country, some of that money ought to go to the u.s. coast guard which actually has taken more than 10 times the amount of contraband drugs than have the border pa l troll agencies a-- patrol agencies along the mexican border. we need to be wise how we're spending the taxpayer money and the president is more interested in completing his campaign promise. maria: the government shutdown hangs in the balance. >> exactly. maria: walk us through what's taking place this weekend. >> well, i think this weekend is actually today. the house passed a bill that did have the president's $5.7 billion fence or wall program. that's going over to the senate. i

is it a secondary fence or is it new fence? meaning additional miles. we don't know.how much is spent on cameras, sensors, drones, don't know. we got nothing, even this morning from the white house or congress. is this fight about money or politics? this year congress will spend $5 billion in aid to afghanistan. $11 billion on green energy subsidies. $14 million on ear marks. from president clinton through barack obama congressional democrats built miles of border wall. >> it is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it. >> the bill before us will certainly do some good. it will authorize some badly needed funding for better fences and better security along our borders. >> remember, bill, in 2006 majority of senate democrats voted for 700 miles of double fencing. no different in design to what president trump today calls a wall. >> bill: william, thank you. william la jeunesse with a closer look today. >> sandra: president trump sounding

schumer and 98 other senators had $1.6 trillion, $1.6 billion for the wall that included 70 miles of new fencing00 new personnel. so there's border security going on there. the only answer isn't we're going to build a wall that can be defeated by a shovel or a ladder. there's a lot of ways to secure the border. >> anita: ok. ted, what do you say about that? >> well, if you remember last year, chuck schumer shut down the government because he wanted to support daca students but he didn't want to do anything about the border. he didn't want to end chain migration and here we go again. schumer is not going to negotiate in any way whatsoever. schumer said there is no negotiation. we are not going to move over with any negotiation. we are not going to fund the wall. that is the message that the democrats are sending to the american people. and if that's the message that they want to send, they certainly can. but they're senators in tight races in 2020 will have to take that the american people. and let's have that debate. if they want to support illegal immigrants, we can have that debate or we can d

so we have seen that some fencing money has been put there for replacement fencing and new fencing. president got $1.3 billion this past year. host: nanette barragan will be with us until the end of this program. 20 -74 - 001 for republicans. democrats, 20 -748-8,000. independents, 20 -748-8002. when democrats take control of the house next year, specifically how does your committee handle issues like this? what do you think is going to change as far as the approach? guest: a lot more oversight than there has been. family separation, we'll have hearings. the conversation will continue to happen. this is one of the most bipartisan committees in congress. we get bipartisan legislation out. we work together. there is no doubt that the wall has become a political issue. if you talk to members across the aisle, they will tell you it's not the most effective use of taxpayer dollars. when you take a look at the drug cartels, they are going underneath walls. they are going overwalls. that is not going to stop terrorists and it's not going to stop the drug cartels. host: what's the approach

when you look at the current fencing, there's a decent amount in california across arizona. there are certainly gaps. that's where we see problems. newaw the biggest problem. rio grand valley as we mentioned 130,000 illegal crossings. guess what no fencing here almost at all. the president is basically trying and this is where we are right now. and what is he has actually completed you don't hear about this in the mainstream media. but call electio calexico on thr there has been a project where they refenced santa theresa and el paso along new mexico and texas there. the bottom line is you have new projects coming in 2019. where does the president want to spend? it's a fair question. he wants to spend billions of dollars. where is the money going to go? they have got some new fencing, wall, whatever you want to call it projects in san diego. we have mentioned that had you 26,000 illegal crossings there in 2017. el centro, yuma and lukeville in arizona. again, arizona you still have a problem as i mentioned. but the big one the president wants to attack in 2019 is get some fencing, get a wall built in the rio grand valley. over 130,00

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new wall. there is building ballard fencing which was there seven years ago and we need more of.wledge that, that's why they put $25 billion on the table not too long ago. why get caught up in the word play? why not just fund border security? >> well, i have to complete your sentence, because they put $25 billion up but that was in exchange for daca program that actually worked and gave them a pathway to citizenship. >> right. >> we're looking at a red herring. this wall is a $5 billion red herring. there are a few things. why are we paying for this wall, when the president of the united states and everyone else were going on the campaign trail and chanting build the wall and who is going to pay for it, mexico. why can't niger and every other republican come up before you simply saying that was a lie. the president lied about that. that is coming out of your pocket. >> hold on, let's get an answer to your question. mexico paying for it, it was b.s., it was always b.s. and you know it. niger, yes or yes? >> i don't think it was b.s. i think the president had intended as a candidat

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the government is repairing and replacing old sections of border fencing but new construction has notd will not be this year. >> he has prototypes being done, let's test and see how we can build a piece of wall but it's a toy version of a wall. i think that he is trying to just see what sticks and if someone believes him, he sees it as a winner. there, in donald trump's mind, it seems no downside to telling lies. there's no downside to saying he built a wall that he hasn't built or that he gave people a pay raise that he hasn't given them. people will look at their paychecks and know what's there and what isn't. >> the people he was talking to know what they're getting paid in that instance. >> i want to go back to the child separation falsehood. that's a big one. i've interviewed people who were deported without their children, and that's a really, really big problem. there are children whose parents are still not reunited. you have children who are essentially orphaned in the practical sense by the american government. that's a big issue and a big problem. now we have children passi

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hear language from you, rather than talking about a fence or other border measures, john kellly was interviewed by the l.a. times and made a bit of news saying this on the wall. it's not a wall, he said. the president still says wall, oftentimes frankly he'll say barrier or fencing. now he's tended towards steel slats. we left the solid concrete wall early on in the administration when we asked people what they needed and where they needed it. furthermore, on this back and forth, this was mick mulvaney, the president's acting chief of staff on friday on that issue. >> democrats have simply shut down the discussions. they did not even counter us. we went back to them by the way after the second $1.3 billion and picked a number less than 5. so actually came off of our a $5 billion slightly. they instead of coming up from their $1.3 billion left. sandra: perhaps you can use this as a message to democrats. where is the president willing to give on these issues? is it on a dollar amount? is he willing to come off that $5 billion. is it simply in the lac languag, wording of the wall or the fence. >> people who want to say wall, wall, wall,

fencing right now. the bill that passed the senate appropriation committee would add 375 new border guards another 70 miles of fencing. schumer's in a good place on this. i think we just saw the president move a little bit. will there be a shut down? it's possible. i think in the end you're going to see 1.3 to $1.6 billion, not the $5 billion. >> if there is a partial shutdown, who gets hit, dhs, the very people at the border. >> not only are we dealing with border issues, but also traveling across the country, something people would really feel at the holidays. matt, can i get you to weigh in here, too? this does seem to be a situation where even if the president manages to convince his supporters he's following through on the wall promise, it's very clear that he's breaking the promise that mexico would pay for this? >> sure, and that's been clear since, what, the day after inauguration that that's not going to happen. he overpromised on the wall, and if he couldn't get it funded with republican control over congress, what in the world do we think he's going to do with a democratic-controlled house. it's