we have a new h.p.c. and they have made a determination and they are the experts along with 11 preservation planners. that it did not meet a certificate of appropriateness standards. pending comments from my fellow commissioners, i'm inclined to support the commission. >> i'm similarly inclined to support the commission. for many of the same reasons. i think the h.p. scrmbings a body that is endowed and charges with the responsibility of making these determinations. they have a, you know, an expertise that -- and standards that they applied and for those reasons i would be more inclined. i also think that the position of not producing possible other alternatives other than the one -- the project to h. -- planning. struck me as a pretty hard line in being very fixed with the design not having any kind of movement or ability to view another alternative. i quite like the bar and i don't know what that says about me but i think that -- like president goh, i thought the structure maintained a lot of its integr