the house bill would subsidize the purchase of a new hummer, or new ram.t talks about a companion bill in the senate which they say is better. but the bill being pushed for the auto industry is bad policy. it's as these bills are expertly designed to provide it detroit one last windfall to sell off gas-guzzlers' currently sitting on dealer lots. guest: nothing is perfect, right? my bill would have been a little different. but you must work with your colleagues. the bill that we passed in my committee the do you know the committee well in terms of a balance between democrats and republicans. 50-4. then, on the house floor, an amendment, better than a two- thirds vote -- a hummer -- one of the provisions was that your car has to have worse than 18 miles per gallon. as we think about hummers, most of those would use the head as a stereotype and gets less than 80 miles per gallon but the new car or a police car has to be at least four mpg better. -- or those lease car. if you want to take full advantage id should be a 10 mile per gallon differential. if you tu

new taurus and others. all international brands are providing credible value for their vehicles. the chinese have yet to officially enter the market, but hummer, sold by general motors, is going to, if approved, by a chinese firm, but that is not where most people see the value in the long term. host: what do you know about the chinese from? guest: not much other event it is in the session one province and it is a big manufacturer. they are entering the market from the upper end as opposed to those coming from smaller vehicles. there will be out placement of some vehicles. fiat, providing smaller, more efficient vehicles from the european side. so i think you will see a lot of different, small, fuel-efficient vehicles in the market. but they will make them in the u.s. as well. host: it your asks us, hummers are used by the military, but is it a good idea to sell to china? but the military are not made -- guest: when i was in the armed services committee would dealt with those issues. but that is separate. gm just have the rights to the brand. host: the commercial. guest: the h1, the version of the military one, is even discontinued. texas hos

hummer, but i want to focus on the medicaid and medicare issue and the concern that we would need to point some costs savings through that. in california, new york, people get nervous about this, we looked at those costs. could any of you comment on that and whether or not -- she mentioned limiting itemized reductions for medicare and medicaid, that would be a place of picking up savings. do you have experienced enough, what are we talking about conlan and does that bring us to a question of whether the large states or small states, the competition is going to be such that both are paying essentially the same thing for that care which we know today is not true. >> if i understand your question correctly, let me answer it this way. it has been underway since the first of medicine reports and after a cooperative effort across the board in health-care to understand how it is that we address the system and quality problems because it is clear we have rollins and there are enormous costs linked to that. the bonet -- the estimate is that 35% of the money that we spend is for every year, for care that doesn't help people. we need to have -- the fi