don't know if he will get the nomdition but if he does -- nomination but if he does -- >> the new jerseyites love him. you know who they want to be president? hillary. >> i am not saying she went the more popular candidate. >> john. >> if he is her opponent she has a real battle on her hands. >> you make a good point with hillary. he got 20% of the african american vote. and 50% of the hispanic vote. the last guy to get 20% of the african american republican was richard nixon. in 1960, 32%. if hillary clinton is in there those votes disappear and the hispanic vote, he won't get 50%. geroge h. w. bush didn't get near that. look, i tell you, the people are building the guy up, he is a good candidate but the idea he can win -- [ talking at the same time ] >> not going to get those numbers but if he boosts them then he puts party in contention but the fact that he is now out there as a potential frontrunner saying the republican parties needs to remake himself. he didn't run as a republican. this is like the empires striking back. rush limbaugh -- they don't like chris christie. marko rubio said he has a