going to be if the legalrity interpretation tells people that we are collecting bulk to collect new metadata. >> thank you very much to the witnesses for coming out today. professor kerr, any thoughts on the question of review or call it appeal? you have written extensively on appeals in the criminal context. in the fisa context here, there is interest in creating the process for getting from the judge to the fisa court of review. could that restructured that is it least as constitutional as the rest of fisa? in part because the isstitutional question almost entirely unexplored in the case law. about and we think application for an expert a case order? is that like a case, in which case is an exercise of the judicial power and need to think of it in the traditional article some sort or is that of an extra issue that goes does notjudge that require the additional -- traditional article three to be followed? we do not really know. it is really difficult to know what the constitutional parameters are in terms of what is permissible. there is a tremendous great area and do not think there will b

going to be if the legalrity interpretation tells people that we are collecting bulk to collect new metadata. >> thank you very much to the witnesses for coming out today. professor kerr, any thoughts on the question of review or call it appeal? you have written extensively on appeals in the criminal context. in the fisa context here, there is interest in creating the process for getting from the judge to the fisa court of review. could that restructured that is it least as constitutional as the rest of fisa? in part because the isstitutional question almost entirely unexplored in the case law. about and we think application for an expert a case order? is that like a case, in which case is an exercise of the judicial power and need to think of it in the traditional article some sort or is that of an extra issue that goes does notjudge that require the additional -- traditional article three to be followed? we do not really know. it is really difficult to know what the constitutional parameters are in terms of what is permissible. there is a tremendous great area and do not think there will b

certainly, the telephone metadata had been disclosed by the "new york times" and then partially declassified by president bush in late 2005. there was conversation out there. congress can do that and that should happen. there could be public hearings as there are now public hearings about competing versions of the lawstial fixes for the that we have. yes, a portion of this is classified. exactly how it works is classified. why do we want to tip our playbook to the bad guys? that can be explained to the public, too. want show that americans conflicting things. one thomas they want there -- but they really are not conflicting things. one, they want their privacy protector. secured also want to be and they want laws to catch the bad guys that have plans to hurt us. the debate about purposes and framework is properly in the public domain. it should be made clear in the of how the watch works will be kept classified because we don't want to tip our hand. but again, if there is adequate safeguards and there is transparency in disclosing, as has been proposed, how many searches have been made, how

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pfizer court's decisions on these programs particularly the phone metadata collection program on thursday this week a district court judge in new york will hear arguments from the a.c.l.u. directly targeting the n.s.a. surveillance of millions of horizon phone users again as revealed by edward snowden's leaks while the n.s.a. warriors up in district courts this week. he received a free pass from the highest court in the land today the supreme court denied a case brought by the electronic privacy information center epic that also challenge the n.s.a.'s collection of arisan phone records it would have been the first major n.s.a. challenge to be heard by the supreme court court cases aside there's another form of backlash the n.s.a. is dealing with since its secrets were dragged into the sunlight the agency says it's seen an enormous surge in open records requests coming from americans who want to know exactly what the n.s.a. has on them staff at the n.s.a. freedom of information act and privacy act office are overwhelmed by an eight hundred eighty eight percent increase in open records requests since the edward snowden revelation

the court's decisions on these programs particularly the phone metadata collection program on thursday of this week a district judge in new york will hear arguments from the a.c.l.u. directly targeting the n.s.a. surveillance of millions of horizon phone users again as revealed by the edward snowden leaks but while the n.s.a. lawyers up in district courts this week it's received a free pass from the highest court in the land today the supreme court denied a case brought by the electronic privacy information center epic that also challenge the office as collection of horizon phone records it would have been the first major n.s.a. challenge to be heard by the supreme court. court cases aside there's another form of backlash the n.s.a. is dealing with since its secrets were dragged into the sunlight the agency says it's seen an enormous surge and open records requests coming from americans who want to know exactly what the n.s.a. has on the staff at the n.s.a. freedom of information act and privacy act office are overwhelmed by an eight hundred eighty eight percent increase in open records request since the edward snowden re

court's decisions on these programs particularly the phone metadata collection program on thursday of this week a district court judge in new york will hear arguments from the a.c.l.u. directly targeting the n.s.a. surveillance of millions of arisan phone users again as revealed by edward snowden but while there is a lawyers up in district courts this week it's received a free pass from the highest court in the land today the supreme court denied a case brought by the electronic privacy information center epic that also challenge the n.s.a. as collection of arisan phone records it would have been the first major n.s.a. challenge to be heard by the supreme court. court cases aside there's another form of backlash the n.s.a. is dealing with since its secrets were dragged into the sunlight the agency says it seen in the enormous surge in open records requests coming from americans who want to know exactly what the n.s.a. has on that stuff at the n.s.a. freedom of information act and privacy act office are overwhelmed by an eight hundred eighty eight percent increase in open records requests since the edward snowden revelations

in a federal courtroom in new york city and for the first time this they will have to defend in public court the n.s.a.'s telephone metadata spying program and what comes out of that hearing could have enormous impacts on how the n.s.a. currently operates joining me now to talk more about the case and its consequences is bred max kaufman legal fellow with the american civil liberties union national security project welcome to the show thanks for having me so break it down for us what's at the core of what the a.c.l.u. will be arguing in court tomorrow. so we're in court tomorrow challenging the section to fifteen bulk phone record collection program as you just described it was the first revelation by edward snowden he revealed the secret court order from the foreign intelligence surveillance court. ordered the collection of all the to less than the mehta data as you said call detail records of all the verizon business network services customers for a ninety day period and we very quickly learned that that was not the only such order and it had not been the program had been going on for about seven years before that disclo

metadata collection program which is section 1215. and 702 which is the e-mail program from afar. that's been the big news up to now. these are other programs that are formed in different ways under -- >> schieffer: what you're saying is a full review then decide where we go from there. >> yes. the white house is doing it. and we're going to begin it if we can get the appropriate staff. >> schieffer: let me ask you about this. a german politics actually visited with edward snowden who dumped all of this information out in to the public arena. met with him last week in russia. he said he would try to enlist his help to investigate the nsa and suggested that he be brought back to this country and given clemency. what would be your reaction to that? >> my reaction would be negative. first of all, this is an american, he was a contractor he was tested. he stripped our system, he had an opportunity if what he was was a whistle blower to pick up the phone to call the house intelligence committee, the senate intelligence committee and say, look, i have some information you ought to see. and we would certainly see him. mayb