outlookroadcasting from cookie, new mexico, from new mexico pbs. mexico heads to the polls june 7. we're joined today by four guest. former new mexico governor gary johnson, running for president as a libertarian, was a libertarian nominee for president in 2012 and was a republican during his two terms as governor from new mexico. diane denish, former lieutenant governor of new mexico who has endorsed hillary clinton for president. is a ortiz y pino democratic new mexico state senator who has endorsed bernie sanders. and we are joined by new mexico state senator sue wilson beffort , who is a republican and has yet to endorse a particular republican presidential candidate. i wanted to go to former governor gary johnson. why you switched. do you feel the republican party left you? >> yeah, well, i think a majority of republicans -- i thinthe majority of people in is country a classic libels, whicis bng speakingith a brd brush stroke, socially liberal. th is the cami am in i happ to belie most republins are ithat cam also. but having participated in t

it is what i told the people of new mexico when i was running for office and the people of new mexico stood behind me. when you talk about issues as issues and not using them to demonize people you can get a lot done. one of the first leaders i met was the governor of chihuahua who seized on a gateway to mexico and south america and we are one of the fastest growing states for exports in the entire country. that relationship wasn't forged by pandering or breaking my word to the voters who elected me. it was built on honesty, sincerity, and hard working on both sides of that border. and we had space between us that we would help the people that we serve. once those relationships are built, we can accomplish like making the state one of the leaders in export growth. and they also pay dividends in other ways. we had a child killer flee our state and fled to mexico. they could not find him. featured even on america's most wanted. he sent me as governor a letter asking me for help. yup, he sent a prosecutor who specialized in prosecuting child killers asking me for leanancy. i call my frie

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>> spain was in control of new mexico for far longer than mexico was. ilies are 10 generation and 11 generation. when they look back on themselves, they think of themselves as spanish. >> those traditions, they've continued to thrive in these little pockets. we're cut off from spain. so i once worked with people from spain and they kept cutting up and snickering at me. what they told me was okay, you can knock it off with the don quixote phraseology. the equivalent of me today, talking saying "top of the morning to you, sir." >> really? >> and they were like, stop making fun of us. and i said you know what? i'm not making fun of you. that's the way we speak. we go see grandpa, that's all he knows, is 500 year ago spanish. >> maybe if we're lucky enough, we'll have grandpa play his harmonica the way he used to on the cattle drives. ♪ >> but i have a plan here on this meat. >> all right, the meat is yours. >> all right, good. ♪ >> just call me cookie. some local beef, glowing hot coals, cast iron can. >> pureed green chilies here? >> yes. >> beautiful. i'm

i got elected governor of new mexico.i've never been involved in politics before prior to getting elected governor of new mexico. new mexico is a state that is to have someone democrat. i promise to bring a commonsense business approach to state government. in that context i may have vetoed more legislation than the other 49 governors in the country combined. 750 feet does, thousands of them line item vetoes. i think it made a difference. i got elected by bigger margin the second time. i'm also an athlete and adventure. i've climbed the highest mountains on each of the seven continents, something that was the goal of mine and something that i have achieved. i'm hoping to ride the divide next summer if i'm not elected president. john: mr. mcafee. >> libertarianism is grounded in the concept of liberty but that is liberty quite slippery means our bodies and our minds belong to ourselves is liberty is lost when governments decide what is right or wrong regarding what we may do with ourselves. every law that is try to restric

amy: from santa fe, new mexico, this is democracy now! >> this has been a very difficult time for the rice family. there is no price that you can of the loss of a 12-year-old child. amy: $6 million. that is how much the city of cleveland has agreed to pay the family of tamir rice to settle a federal lawsuit after cleveland police shot the 12-year-old boy dead. at the time, tamir was in a park by himself holding a toy pellet gun. but under the settlement the city admits no wrongdoing. we will speak to the family's attorney. then a year ago this week, a new york prisoner named samuel harrell died after as many as 20 corrections officers kicked, punched and threw him down a , flight of stairs. the officers were known as the beat up squad. a year later, no one has been charged in his death. >> he was my friend. he was more -- so much more than just an inmate who was brutally been the debt by 20 corrections to death bybean 20 corrections officers. we are here today because of those officers and what they took from us. amy: we will speak to sam

the state of new mexico offers scant resources. even on the outside, and has one of the poorest populations of children in the nation. here keith gets a full day of school... daily counseling. guards that double as mentors. the reforms come from a program is called "cambiar" the spanish word for change, implemented at all 5 of new mexico's juvenile centers. al jazeera america got extensive access inside to see the impact its had on the inmates. keith is 7 months into a 2-year sentence. he's had one family visit and he's nursing an old basketball injury. >> at first, it was pretty bad. heh. my anger was pretty bad. so i needed to just learn how to control it better. it's kinda hard, though. 'cause right when i start feeling it, i try to tell myself to calm down, but it doesn't really work that much. so i have to learn how to just, remove myself from a situation that's gonna make me angry. >> i see his softer side. >> well i just think things happen for a reason. i don't know, maybe, me coming here is just... gonna help me live a bet

in new mexico, there was a mine polluting a river in northern new mexico.pollute for decades. my biggest ace in the hole was i was going to make them a superfund site if, in fact, they didn't come to the table because they were bad actors. if it weren't for federal epa shutting them down, they would still be polluting that river. i put this in the context of protecting us against harm. john: what about global warming? should they protect us from that? >> whether global warming is true or not, government should play no role. it's not the job of the government to protect us from these things. government is actually the biggest polluter. did you know? let's get the government out of the business of polluting. the reality is, ladies and gentlemen, there is a scientific consensus that states there is a warming trend, but the truth is there may be benefits to the warming trend. scientists are good at looking at the facts on the ground but terrible at predictions, they're not nostra damus. china won't come to the table, they're a great polluter. what is the federa

i got elected governor of new mexico.i've never been involved in politics before prior to getting elected governor of new mexico. new mexico is a state that is to have someone democrat. i promise to bring a commonsense business approach to state government. in that context i may have vetoed more legislation than the other 49 governors in the country combined. 750 feet does, thousands of them line item vetoes. i think it made a difference. i got elected by bigger margin the second time. i'm also an athlete and adventure. i've climbed the highest mountains on each of the seven continents, something that was the goal of mine and something that i have achieved. i'm hoping to ride the divide next summer if i'm not elected president. john: mr. mcafee. >> libertarianism is grounded in the concept of liberty but that is liberty quite slippery means our bodies and our minds belong to ourselves is liberty is lost when governments decide what is right or wrong regarding what we may do with ourselves. every law that is try to restric

. >> if you do win indiana what is to stop you from doing a bait and switch and competing in new mexico. >> we are all in on indiana. we are competing in this great state. indiana is a crossroads. it is a crossroads for the entire country. it is big news today that john kasich has decided to pull out of indiana, to give us a head-to-head contest with donald trump. that is good for the men and women of indiana. it's good for the country to have a clear and direct choice. after discussions with the kasich campaign, we made a decision about allocating resources. we decided to allocate our time and energy and resources on the state of indiana. governor kasich decided to allocate his resources elsewhere. i think that made sense from both campaigns. >> what would you say -- >> the divide and conquer strategy, even if you're not a trump supporter, nonetheless, kind of subverts the will of the people. >> this is entirely about the will of the people. this is about winning the votes of the hoosier state, giving indiana the opportunity to choose, and we're at a fork in the road. we're at a fundam

and ted cruz could win more delegates, and ted cruz would would do that and or gun in mexico -- new mexico, the political system -- in oregon and new mexico. >> if you collude in business, or in the stock market they put you in jail. >> there are already signs with the tech team planned and it may be falling apart, john kasich says that voters in indiana will vote for him. >> joining us now is our political analyst. i have never heard anything like this would you think about this new alliance between ted cruz and john kasich? >> this may be a technical term, but it is goofy. the idea, that you would ask voters to stand down in a state in favor of another candidate is as you say, unprecedented i don't know if i've ever known anything like this. >> donald trump fired back and said, it is said that tweak prone politicians have to collude against one who has been a politician for 10 months in order to get that person from getting the republican nomination, what you think about the way that donald trump is handling all of this? >> he is pointing out the irony of all this, it is so unusual to ha

say cruz wins indiana, say kasich gets new mexico and oregon. california is left.ven if trump wins big, giving him 70% of delegates there, a big win, under this scenario, trump is about 1215. short of 1237. doesn't mean he can't negotiate with uncommitted delegates to get there. but if he won those states, if trump came in and won indiana, if trump came in and said sorry, governor kasich, i will take new mexico, we split delegates here, run the board, get oregon, say so much for that alliance, this gets him to 1236. there are more delegates he could get tomorrow night. succeeding in that alliance or two of three states is critical. if trump breaks the deal, if you will, he can get there. >> what about on the democratic side, clinton hopes to make sanders' math impossible after tomorrow night. can she do it? >> again, let's look at where we are. she has a lead after new york she says is overwhelming. same five states tomorrow. asterisk by rhode island, they have open primary, independents can vote. the rest are closed primaries, that helps hillary clinton. here is w

in exchange, ted cruz ceded new mexico and oregon to john kasich.ring him far one on one race against trump there. those states are capable to his centrist brand. this is all with the goal of trying to keep trump under that magic number of 1237 delegates >> certainly we'll know as early as next week whether or not this strategy is effective. but is it too little too late for the cruz and kasich campaigns? >> that's what i'm hearing from a lot of people even ted cruz's own rally earlier today. i spoke to a woman who wondered allowed who wondered. you can look at it different ways. it was a crowded field for a long time. it would have been harder to do something like in january or february. as an argument to be made, as the field did start to send having some kind of arrangement where certain candidates competed in certain states and basically different bother in other states. might have slowed trump in some of these places. if it doesn't work, you will hear more about why didn't this happen six weeks ago? >> as you point out in your piece at washingt

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i don't know how new mexico played out. cruz seated new mexico to krasic in their deal, but he is a player heading into cleveland. going to be holding on to a couple of a hundred delegates. >> hugh hewitt, who will remain of counsel for us tonight. in irvine, california. thank you very much. a lot to react to in those last 60 seconds. >> truch is ahead in the polls in indiana, so it may be ted cruz may be making his big move there and he may want us to be talking about na instead of these five states about to have their poll closings in 50 seconds, but these five states are a lot of delegates to make. >> it gets so interesting after tonight. after a few seconds from now. when we learn more about the trajectory, what everyone's been saying tonight are the two people who have the biggest night this eempk going to be the nominees. >> we saw ted cruz, talking tonight this his pre poll closing speech about how he's so happy to be moving to friendlier territory. thank dpod we're getting out of the northeast. these states count an

as you know, the plan is to have kasich focus in on new mexico and oregon out in the west. leave indiana to ted cruz. but kasich is fund raising in indiana today. already told voters there he'd make the best president and donald trump mocking all of this. is this an alliance really an alliance or could it actually backfire on these two republicans? >> it will backfire if there's not a clean opportunity for cruz to go up against trump because right now, trump's doing well in the polls. he gets tighter if it becomes a two-man contest but as you say, kasich has not completely pulled himself out. so much money getting poured in from all sides right now into indiana but this is really an important moment. because if you do have trump winning in a conservative state like indiana, it's not just that it shows he can win beyond the northeast and more moderate republican territory, it's also 57 delegates and if he has a big night tonight, he gets within a couple hundred delegates, it gets difficult to stop him. i think this alliance is weak and probably a little too late in coming bu

kasich will back off in oregon and new mexico, and cruz's campaign will focus on indiana to pave the way for an open convention. >> i think it's very important. right now the way things work, hillary clinton will be president and we'll lose the

it is also perfectly conceivable he could do this and win in new mexico. it is conceivable he could win oregon as well. i give you these scenarios to show you after tonight, 50% is what he will need going forward. he may get even more of the unpledged delegates in pennsylvania. hard, yes. doable, yes, you can map out a scenario to get him to 37 by the day of the california primary on june 7th without doing a lot of work. >> the other candidates, no way they can get there as they, themselves, acknowledge, their only hope is to prevent him from reaching that number and have a contested convention. that increasingly looks like it is not going to happen. >> big night tonight. >> if donald trump wins indiana, he still has a path. if he wins, knowing what we know about new jersey and west virginia, gets pretty tough. >> anderson, that explains why he is calling himself the presumptive nominee. >> it is seven hours ago when we started on the air. we were asking, is there going to be clarity tonight? it certainly seems like there is clarity on both sides. >> donal

the presiding officer: the senator from new mexico. mr. heinrich: madam president, i rise today to speak about this bipartisan energy package that we're going to be voting on here today. last year my colleagues and i on the senate energy and natural resources committee worked together to pass an energy package that received incredibly strong and bipartisan support at a time when that is hard to come by. and i think it's important to start out my comments today by simply thanking the chair and the ranking member of the energy committee, senators murkowski and cantwell. as senator portman mentioned, they showed incredible leadership and also incredible patience. and that patience and that persistence on behalf of all of us is now paying off. my home state of new mexico occupies a very central and interesting place in nearly every facet of our nation's energy industry, including uranium enrichment, oil and gas production, refining, wind and solar energy, as well as the research and development of new energy technologies, technologies of th

this is dan ald in the light of day and basically it affects three states, oregon and new mexico. mr. kasich will now go and campaign in and indiana where ted cruz is far ahead of john kasich in his race and it is a very important state. it is winner take all by congressional districts. >> he is saying both of them should quit. that would be the unifying strategy. that's what donald trump said. >> i'm sure he would like them to quit. he should have had this nomination wrapped up a month ago. instead of worrying about them and insulting them as lying ted and john case whoik eats like a

campaigning in indiana in exange for cruz skipping new mexico. >> there is no alliance, we made a doo determinat determination our assets. >> reporter: others are expressing strong concerns about cruz. former speaker john boehner blasting cruz at an interview in stanford university. >> lucifer in the flesh. i have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch. >> reporter: but cruz appears unfazed. >> he didn't aabbreviate. he allowed his inner trump to come out. >> reporter: trump may be cleaning up in the primaries, but in the general, his numbers with women could use some work. >> thank you so much! >> reporter: and today he repeated his claim that hillary clinton is only winning by playing the gender card. >> the primary thing that she has going for her is that she's a woman, and she's playing that card like i have never seen anybody play it before. >> reporter: now even though the trump campaign feels pretty comfortable about their odds in indiana, they're not taking anything for granted. they are actually up with a new ad that hits cruz on free trade. >> joining me is philip

the chair recognizes the gentleman from new mexico, ms. luan grisham. >> thank you very much, mr. chairman. and i'm going to kind of go off topic, and i apologize, kind of, except that i think that generally speaking as dr. conway is chief medical officer, and what -- while absolute appreciate your discussion about ways to improve quality. when we really do that those investments in fact save money in the health care system. i would want to talk about some issues that i'm sure you're aware, and if you are not, this is great, this is a great place to make you aware but i talked about it in nearly every context data came as a member of congress, that given the situation in our states, our governor determined that all, 100% of our behavioral health providers, were engaged in billing practices that goe roseo the level of a credible allegation of fraud. and so suspended payment to all. i disagreed with it, but be that as it may. yours issue for me given a three years later the companies that came in our largely now gone, that there is no behavioral health, let me repeat that, there is

, a student in new mexico, this gorgeous blue-eyed blond haired woman, your father must be hispanic,he said no, both of my parents are spanish and there is a distinct difference in attitude between traditionally spanish population of new mexico and i take issue with the fact of calling mexicans immigrants, they were here long before anglos were, i have issues with all of them. the other problem politically right now, you had marco rubio and ted cruz, two canadians, ted cruz canadians with two cubans, i know being involved in politics, grand divergence in opinions and attitudes between the rest of the latino community and the cuban community given the policy for cubans as opposed to being stopped at the border by others. would you look at that at all? >> those are great questions. i looked extensively at how latino attitudes vary by their national origin, certainly all the points you raise are empirically true. cubans are distinct, the most distinct among the latino population, and to the republican party, support for republican candidates and that sets them apart, and the other point

new mexico is 50-50.t the moment we are giving him 103 and you see how that number jumps on june 7. now he's 86 away but on that same day is new jersey and you see how it starts to pinch down to 35. hold your thoughts gentlemen, here is john kasich on the strategy i didn't send resources in the state of wisconsin. a minor amount of spending. i don't have you know, like daddy warbucks behind me giving me all this money. i have to be careful about my resources and furthermore, the reason why i'm in this race is i'm the only one that beats hillary clinton. i'm going to do everything i can to make sure we don't lose the united states senate, the supreme court, the state and local courthouse. i don't see this as any big deal other than the fact that i'm not going to spend resources in indiana, he's not going to spend in other places. so what? what's the big deal? i've never told them not to vote for me. they ought to vote for me but i'm not over there campaigning and spending resources. we have limited resourc

cruz is not going to put his resources into new mexico or oregon. that's the totality. >> the voters only have one resource, their vote. kelly o'donnell said very interesting a moment ago and she's a reporter and said here is the challenge this whole proposal by trump and cruz and trump and kasich and cruz people. you cut back the deal making public transparent, fine. you're telling voters here is the deal. if you live in indiana and vote republican, vote for cruz, don't forget. you're telling people who are f f for kasich. they tend to go for the person they are for. i'm just asking. >> a back room deal is a back room deal and they brought it to the light and i guess that can be to their credit. the bottom line is this gives donald trump another opportunity to say i'm an outsider. i don't play these beltway political games. all of this politics that really disturbs the people who are enthusiastic about donald trump. they do not like this. it will only serve to give donald trump for air time, more time against ted cruz and whenever he does that. >>

in return, cruz says governor kasich, you take new mexico and oregon. that's 109 delegates. pponents can take them, sure, it complicates the math for trump. we know mr. trump is going to win new jersey. we run out the west here. let's say cruz wins indiana and, even if trump won california big, under this scenario, that would have trump at about 1215, so, short of 1237, doesn't mean he couldn't negotiate to get there but if he won those states, if he actually came in and won indiana and said sorry governor kasich, i'm going to take new mexico and if you can run the board and get oregon and so much for that alliance, this gets him at 1236 and there are more he could get tomorrow night. so, them succeeding is absoolutely critical. if trump breaks the deal, if you will, he can get there. >> and what about the democratic side? can she do it? >> not mathematically but certainly from a political standpoint. the asterisk nearby rhode island because they have an open primary. the rest are closed primaries. here's what she is thinking. she thinks she wins at least four of the five. an