parks. we're going to have one thousand new affordable housing units out of this project. we're getting 12 plus parks, acres of new parkland which will reduce carbon dioxide in the city, it's going to help, san francisco led the way in the 20th century, this project and this infrastructure will ensure that san francisco leads the way for the nation and is a model for the nation and not just the nation but the world in the 21st century, we have 8 thousand plus new construction jobs, it will be generated from this project, 27 housing permanent new jobs as well as new housing, new units, new revenue for the city, i urge you, please support this project. thank you very much, bye-bye. >> thank you. >> hello, i'm julia sullivan speaking on baf of the member organizations of the san francisco housing action coalition and we strongly support the transit center district plan. i'm asking you the please approve the shadow budget for the transit sent ce -- center, it's important to remember that for the small additional shadows cast, the district provides enormous benefits to the city,

great attendance at our meetings over the years and the community is extremely excited about the new park. we are very involved in the design of the park through the community meetings and we look forward to the groundbreaking but also the new park coming in about 18 months. we will be meeting throughout this time and we want to work on programming for the park so it can be open like the other parks in the city full time but thank you very much. i am sure i will see you again as we continue, and all of you of course are invited. i hope that you can make it on the groundbreaking and november 13th. it's a tuesday from one to four. >> thank you and congratulations again. >> so commissioners it is 1818 and i would encourage everyone to visit 72 hours .org home preparedness and it's crucial and make sure your family and loved ones are cared for and you have a disaster plan in case an earthquake happens. it's not if -- it's when in the city. >> what exactly are we supposed to do? >> i think symbolally duck, which i will do. >> do we have to roll? >> you don't have to roll. i will do it. if you

secondly, as mentioned in jeff's report about the six new parks that are being built down there or that are intended to be built, i'm very concerned and hope that when these discussions take place that recreation and park staff and myself or any other commissioner that would like to be included in these discussions would be there. i would like to see this discussion go to not only who manages or maintains these parks but also the funding of them. i think a recreation and park is the choice place to put these parks for maintenance, so thank you. >> commissioner borden? >> there's a few questions for staff, so you mentioned that the project, the transit tower project was lowered from 1200 feet to 1050, what did that achieve in the shadow reduction? do you recall? and then secondary, at what height in general do you get a shadow from this building? i thought it would interesting to know. >> the reduction from 1200 to 1070, i don't have a quantitative figure for you, it would reduce the portion of the transbay tower that would shadow justin herman tower particularly in that early afternoon

clear that some heavily shaded parts of the park, they're the most heavily used parts of the park, another is the new shadow based on the analysis falls on an area of the park that is generally both not very heavily used, it's part of the sunken plaza as well as the informal seated areas on the periphery, and as per the transbay tower which represents a significant amount of shadow, it's this unenclosed top for the shadow, so the comments potential of diffusion of the sun, it passes through the subject, we don't think this sculptural top will be readily apparent on the ground at all, so currently there is a budget for justin herman plaza of 0.002%, staff proposes to raise it by .083%, and of that, the transbay tower represents about half. moving on to the next park, union square, also almost 3 thousand feet away from the transbay tower, the closest building is about 1500 feet away from the square. the potential new shadows would fall from mid spring through late summer, as little as five minutes a day, the maximum extent would be 60 minutes, some time before 9 a.m., cumulative shadow of .2%, and i'll

hearing at the rec park commission regarding the future management and oversight of these various new parks that will be funded through the plan. we provided in the memo a summary table of the various parks and the different agencies that are currently tasked with owning and managing those. when we highlighted the three key parks for which the oversight and management of these parks are yet to be determined, several of these parks will be designed in the future, so there is a potential substantial role for the rec park department including transbay park and -- as well as there's been an identified opportunity for a new open space in chinatown at the location of the central subway station that's going to be constructed, that could be an opportunity for them to expand their opportunity in that neighborhood. questions arose in terms of the anticipated near term funding stream from the plan for open space, we highlighted the three projects that we see coming for adoption in the near term, in the next few months starting with the transbay tower project today which would generate 2 million dollar

housing, the new parks within the district itself, and also i think the fact that you're going to build a business center in this area which will attract a lot of new businesses there and the fact that northern california, the bay area has been the center of business technology of the world and many of these businesses have been either in san francisco or close to san francisco. i think this will allow more of these companies to locate a larger presence into san francisco and even if some of their detailed operations remain outside the city limits, almost all the support organizations for these companies such as their legal, their accounting, their advertising are located in san francisco and of course this would be another opportunity for more of a presence of companies where their workforce is, so those are some of the benefits but i think in terms of the shadows, clearly the staff has done a magnificent job of presenting how demin mouse the shadow increases are and how the increase in new sunlight from the benefits of the plan will more than mitigate any increases. >> commissioner ha

maritime mraz & woh hei yuen park, chinese recreation center and boeddeker park as riper by planning code section 295, 2, allocate net new shadow to the proposed projts at 101 first street for the following six park property union square, st. mary ice square, portsmouth square, justin her man plaza, maritime plaza, and we will ask that you then open the public hearing. first staff? >> good morning, commissioners, my name is karen, i'm a planner with the recreation and parks department, as the commission secretary has read the items out to you today, we're going to have -- there's two items for your consideration, first is a joint item for both commissions amending the 1989 memo to adjust budgets in several parks and adopt certain qualitative criteria for evaluation or shadow impacts and response the transit plan, the second item is for consideration by the recreation and park commission only for a consideration of specific shadow impacts of the transbay tower, planning department staff will provide a comprehensive presentation that covers both items. the planning staff has provided an overview presentation of the recentl

also the question was raised, what about the new parks created on the plan? we do have some analysis to share with you, generally, you sort of glean from the eir information and city park is 5 and a half acres, it is the size of union square and south park combined, it will generally be a very sunny park, it has some low buildings, [inaudible] on the south side, a few taller buildings that will be built, but it would be the misleading -- middle of the day, fully or almost entirely in sun between 12 p.m. and 3 p.m. generally all times of the year, you can see it's at least probably 2/3 in sun, again, in the spring, fall and summer and in december, you can see 3:00, it's entirely in the sun at 11:00 and 1:00, it's probably 40 or 50% in the sun even in the dense downtown environment. transbay park which is a one acre thark that will be created on the site of the transbay terminal was conceived of and the whole development program for the public parcels around it was crafted with sun, midday sun in mind, so you can see these are a couple of graphics from the trans

park. the amount and nature of the shadow cast by the project is described in greater detail in section 295 motion. to summarize, however, it should be noted that the new shadow generally occur in the morning hours during periods of low park usage for limited amount of time on any given day and limited discrete period of the year which would vary depending on the specific park. the second issue is regarding exceptions being requested under the planning code section 309. the planning code allows the project to seek exceptions from strict compliance from certain sectionses of the code provided that this commission makes specific findings. this project requests exceptionses from the regulations in the area of street wall bays, separation of towers, reduction of ground level 1 currency, general standards for off-street parking and loading to create the curb cut on first street that is proposed here. you can see on the left-hand side of the exhibit. and unoccupied building height that would allow the decorative lattice crown at the top of the tower. consigns [speaker not understood] for each exception is described in the draft section 309 motion but i would

and a new parking plan. cracking down on people who misuse parking spaces. >> and we have some showers getting ready to head into town. some of you will see them sooner than the arrest -- rest of us. i will let you know what the time table is and we need to get the umbrellas handy. scott, what is coming up in sports? >> the latest installment of the nfl's oldest rivalry. the redskins pay a visit to the meadowlands with a division lead on the line. what the big play defense has to do to stop eli manning. that ahead in sports. >> and the german man decided to take a plunge in an icey pool. this is fantastic, actually, getting all ready and he's ready: [ laughter ] : [ laughte . >> oh, landed and slide off. -- slid off. he was recovering from the landing. laughed as himself and we can laugh at him, too.  [ female announcer ] as you're making your decision... maybe you're wondering what to believe about mitt romney. well, when it comes to protecting your access to birth control... and the basic wome

and that was old yankees stadium a new ball park for the yankees to call home and this is the first time baltimore goes there as a playoff contender. jamie costello tells us this morning exactly what the city of new york did with that old ball park. >> reporter: game 3 tonight and the best of 5 series here atyankees stadium. orioles gone discal ease against -- gonzales against theyank yankees. and unget -- yankees. fall has fallen on yankee stadium. this is the original field of old yankees stadium. home plate where dempsey used to drop two fingers and palmer would high kick. the meeting place for all out of towners and an exercise area, handball court, and a track. right in the middle of a nice turf field with soccer or football every night. but it's october, and the orioles are the one who is find themselves in the middle of the baseball universe. game time tonight is 7:37. if you are thinking about driving up from baltimore to be here tonight, on the street and stub hub they are selling tickets for $50 to get inside the door. we will see you tonight live at 5, 6 and 11:00 news. in the

new recreation center. [applause] >> get afternoon, ladies and to win. thank you, phil ginsburg. the family thanks ed lee and the san francisco recreation park in rec commission in naming this new wonderful and beautiful city facility the betty ann ong chinese recreation center. we also thank the people of the city and county of san francisco, the petition-signers, and everyone involved in urging that the center be named after betty. it is a tremendous privilege to the new center that it be named after betty, and our family does not taken lightly. in so doing, it is an honor and a tribute not only to betty and her legacy, but also for all the other victims and heroes who died on september 11. betty ann ong ann foundation would like to thank everyone for their generosity in supporting our fund-raising effort to fully equip the center. and now i would like to take these last few minutes to thank some very special people. i would like to thank and acknowledgement chiu, elaine, and all the past directors and their ancillary for their tremendous dedication in serving the community of san francisco and to the new director. as our foundation has go

and it just seems to me that if there are that many new park users who are going to be located mainly south of market, then, you know, you would think that the attendant facilities park, recreation and other things, would then be in close proximity or reasonably close proximity to where the growth and development is happening on a locational basis. >> maybe i could also jump in here, commissioner. i understand the point. the monies are being raised and development is happening south of market. in fact, most of the fee money is being spent in that area. but it is true, and i think we have done this elsewhere, where the -- where the actual usage by the -- by people who are in the plan area, whether it be residents or workers, is not just in that area. they use parks in other parts of the city. therefore, there is the direct impact, we believe, that goes beyond the boundaries of the plan area itself. it's not as intense as it is in the plan area, but there is an impact in the use that goes beyond the plan area. >> given that, though, then, how is the priority given to the particular neig

. >> reporter: at noon today thousands of people gathered in what will soon be pacific bell park the new home of the san francisco giants. the crowd was bigger here at that vacant lot at third and king street than it sometimes is at a baseball game at golden gate park. giants, players, politicians and fans came together to celebrate the park. >> it's going to be something that we're involved in. it'll be here forever. and it's very significant day for everybody. >> it's going to mean a lot for san francisco, it's going to mean a lot for downtown. it's going to mean a lot for the san francisco giants. >> reporter: giant's president mcgowen, giant's greats willie mays and willie mccubbie all grabbed shovels and and dug in. >> the people are starting to ask us what is the street address. we will like to announce that in the year 2000 you can direct all of your giant's fan mail, all of your mail to willie to pacific well park one willie mays plaza, san francisco 94107. >> thank you, thank you. >> i just about got away from crying. i was on the verge of leaving, but when someone like that tal

transit village, first proposed in 2005, includes 600 apartments, retail space and hundreds of new parking places. >>> it presents americans with an enormous opportunity we're going to tell you all about. >>> we told you the san mateo bridge is going to be closed all weekend. coming up, we'll show you the repairs that are planned. thirty-eight. schools. trouble, we all should help out. under thirty-eight they do. more a year. bucks. money for schools. every school dollar must be... spent on student learning. student wins. vote yes on thirty-eight. >>> mother nature shining good fortune on california's winery. they are expecting a record harvest, while wine makers in europe are facing tough times. tom joins us now live with the reason why. >> reporter: here in wine country, crush time is crunch time! here at the winery, mother nature won't wait. >> this year we've had a really nice, long growing season. we haven't had rain yet. it's predicted to come in next week. >> reporter: it's gone from 1200 to 25,000 cases a year. that means there will be a lot more wine. >> we're expecting to harvest

comes two days after the first of what was supposed to be four meetings to talk about adding 100 new parking spaces inside that park. this would help the senior center in the area. well, hundreds of people attended monday's meeting and mostly to speak out against that plan. lawmakers say they've clearly got a feel on how the community is feeling about this whole thing. one meeting now in the working group, they have formed to discuss the plan and if it should move forward or not. >>> all right, what's going on? the satellite and radar picking up on snow. yes, you see where the snow is? we are looking at it as we head up to the plains right now. and i just have to laugh because wow, they are going to be dealing with 8 to 10 inches possible before this is all said and done and this is going to the east. so minnesota is going to get in on that action too. as we go through the next day or so. and all this is courtesy of a powerful front that's going to be working its way into our area as we go into the weekend. so we're dealing with temperatures in the 50s not cold enough to support the snow. bu

the different colorations of the parks on the map, darker green, are parks that might have new shadow from planned buildings and light green ones do not. this is an excerpt of the table from the ier. so there are nine parks which could potentially be shadowed by buildings in the plan area. seven of which have budgets established for them. so just before we get -- the bulk of the presentation is sort of a park-by-park analysis, going through each, describing what the potential new shadows might look like in terms of time of day and time of year in terms of usage. before we go tint park by park discussion, presentation, just broad observations. the first is that the -- as you can see from the previous map, those little black dots are the major new sites for new construction in the plan area that were identified and analyzed in the eir. they are all substantial distance from the parks. generally quarter to mile to half mile from some of these parks. the shadows by and large only reach these when the sun is low in the sky, generally early mornings. when there are certain slices of skyline

says they put time and effort in to turring the park in to what it is today and against the 100 new parkings needed to expands for a seep yore rec center. >>> time for a check of the forecast. we are keeping our eye on the sky. >> from the sky, charlie, we are seeing rain coming down. as we look towards the west, nice and dry, high pressure building in across the area. we have a disturbances area of low pressure that's pushed in across the area, bringing cloud cover and rain towards the south and west of the city as of now. all this is streaming in, to the knot, we will see periods off and on rai do take the rain gear with you, you will need it. temperatures right now on the mild side. coming in the 60s. now a check of the time saver traffic with loren cook. we have patchy fog. >>> there are several accidents, trouble in arundel county, there is a crash in glen burnie, along the northbound lanes of route 10, once you make your way in to baltimore city, another acdent on frank first at hanover street. using 95, taking a live look downtown at 395, notice everything will be up to speed, no de

new park, same result for the giants who really look like a juggernaut right now. grego blanco puts one at the wall. that is a three-bagger. a 1-0 lead. tigers starter anibal sanchez, but brandon crawford drives it home for a 2-0 lead. same score. fifth inning now. and miguel cabrera, a chance to tie the game, but ryan vogelsong gets him to cough it off. ending the threat. vogelsong takes it to a scoreless inning. the giants become the first team since the 1966 orioles to pick back-to-back shutouts in the world series. we're joined now live from detroit. vern? >> reporter: dennis, the fans are getting ready to give their concession speeches here in downtown detroit. comerica park all but quiet after that final out, as the giants -- i don't think people really understand what's going on. i mean, two world series titles in the last three years. the giants are on the verge of having one of the greatest runs in the history of baseball. the giants clubhouse certainly knows it and they were confident, as we go to the clubhouse. >> i definitely wasn't happy with walking.

jim thompson to oversee building the new park that would keep the white sox and owner jerry from moving our investigation showed him pretty much having the upper hand on thompson at the authority and taxpayer money ever since. basically, tax payers put in most of the bills for anything including recently the new book party in the park restaurant at the ballpark they didn't like what they saw here they were moved thompson and everybody else. i wish the mayor would stop doing this. quinn is angry accusing city hall of leaking information about his choice to replace gov. thompson. in directly he pointed to our investigation as he questioned whether she is the best qualified to watch out for taxpayers. there were a lot of questions raised about an agreement and management in the past. i think we need to raise the quality of who is very and financial stewardship. a new state pension law that is now being challenged some union leaders are going to court tonight a series of stories exposed in january gov quinn signed into law a provision that made it clear that city workers on leaves of absenc

currently major developers have their sights set on manhattanizing our district like the new park mercedct. these kind of projects need to be opposed because they contribute to the displacement of our citizens, gentrification of our district's neighborhoods, the upsurge in traffic congestion to our streets and highways, and the deadly increase in water and air carcinogenic contaminants to our district's environment. i am also concerned about the economic health of our city and the seemingly recollectless spending that gets approved annually by the board of supervisors all at the expense of you, the taxpayers. currently we are exceeding $7 billion being passed routinely without an objection from the board. the city civil grand jury reported if rising pension costs are not addressed quickly the city's financial health will be jeopardized and leveraged out to generations to come. if elected i will make sure our future budgets remain balanced without cutting public services or benefits, privatizing our parks and other public resources, replacing additional burdens on the taxpayers. part of m

news at 10:00. >>> pandemonium at nats park tonight, breaking news, the nationals clinch the national league east division title for the first time ever. thanks for joining us tonight. every shawn yancy. >> i'm will thomas in for brian. the celebration in full swing at the ballpark, more on that in just a moment from scott smith, our sports director, but fox 5's bob barnard starts us off with fan reaction outside the park. bob, take it away. >> reporter: there is some serious natitude here, we. look at shirts. they've already been printed and sold. [ cheering and applause ] >> reporter: let me talk to this man. this is brian from washington d.c. how you feeling right now? >> right, thank you. >> reporter: what is that like in there? >> overwhelming. it was great to see them win this national title. >> reporter: this happened a little bit in an anti-climactic way because the nats found out and all their fans at around 9:45 when the pittsburgh pirates up in pittsburgh beat the atlanta braves. so with that the nats became the national league east champions. here, this is from masn what it looked lik

new park same result for the giants who are a juggernaut right now. scoreless in the 2nd inning, gregory blanco at the base of the wall. that's a triple. hunter pence trots in from third base and the giants have a 1-0 lead. tigers' starter anibal sanchez had a career earned run average against the giants under 2. but brandon crawford drives home blanco for a 2-0 lead as the shoddy tiger defense continues. same score 5th inning, miguel cabrera but ryan vogelsong gets him to tie up -- pop up ending the threat. the giants become the first team since the 1966 orioles to pitch back-to-back shutouts in the world series 2-0 is the final. and we're joined now by vern glenn in detroit and the tigers were hoping that some home cooking might be the recipe to getting back into the series but the team is as cold as the weather wear thinking in tonight. what's the -- they were playing in tonight. what's the issue? >> reporter: i can ditto on the weather. it was eerie. it was absolutely silent when the last out hit the glove. the only thing that we could hear was a

point out that in fiscal year 11-12, we had 147 thousand hours of volunteer time in our park system which was a new record for us, it was a 7 thousand hour increase from our volunteer efforts from the previous year, so we're grateful to san francisco's tireless champions for all the work they do in our parks. upcoming events, commissioner, you already spoke about party for the parks, i will be there wearing i guess what has been described as lodge sheik clothing, i have no idea what that is, the benefits from this supports the recreation and parks alliance. this saturday september 29 from noon to 5, please join us at the city's knew skaip park at balboa park, it will feature skate exhibitions, live bands, the new skate park is part of our partnership for the trust for public land which has renovated their land in balboa park. also on september 29, a very busy day is national public lands day, so get your kicks out at our national lands day event and community kick ball tournament on saturday the 29th from noon to 2 p.m. it's at young blood coleman playground, the mayor's office and neighborhood ser

commissions elected to do in 1989 is adopt a memo that looked at certain parks, it created criteria, it created certain budget's limits of new shadowing on some of those parks and imposed on others said the no new shadow would be allowed, that was something -- prop k didn't spell that out to you, that was something that you decided as commissioners on how to implement prop k. you could have come up with an entirely different method, that's what you come up with, it's not set in stone, it's something that's flexible like the question that you raised earlier of how do you define what's an adverse impact under prop k, those are questions and sixes that are left to the authority of the commission to decide case by case, you could adopt definitions, you haven't done so, you have left the flexibility as you go through the future to decide them as you see fit. so, in the same way that under the 1989 memo, you created criteria in the first place, you have the ability to change those criteria, and i want to read to you from a memo that the city attorney prepared, a public memo and i think i presented this to the planning commission w

anthe new jersey shore, park collapse into the ocean. it.e will rebuild but it won't be the same. >> in new york, the city will spend the next several days pumping out flooded subway tunnels. in breezy point, new york, a cops,orhood filled with firemen, and blue-collar morers, a fire destroyed homes.0 >> the kitchen tile and the bathroom tile, that's about all. >> the cause is not known. today, of an attempt to return to normal, as mayor bloomberg bell of the new exchange and normal trading resumed. rang the bell. and new york's acordia airport is still flooded and will not accept like any time soon -- laguardia. and tourists have returned, taking pictures next to the , reporting from lower manhattan. storm continuing to cause problems in our area. happened early this morning in northwest. crews had to deal with a small electrical fire while trying to the power back on. no one injured. >> crews are doing a great job restoring power. coming asents are well. is a look at some crews in up to head tog virginia. dominion still has 18th thousan

we are live at nationals park when fox 5 morning news continues. ntinues.  >>> we are waking up to some division champs here in d.c. the nats did t a lot more quiet at nationals park now than it was several hours. -- the nats did it. everybody has the shirts on. >> a long season. it goes on forever. >> history in the making. >> till a lot to do. >> we are just celebrating today. once we determine who they're playing, then the real work starts. >> i guess that hasn't been determined. >> still trying to figure that out. two game left or something. >> couple of days left. we'll have to get the weather to cooperates. not cooperating terribly this morning. we have some rain showers out there. may show your commute in spots. 66degrees in washington. generally a nice mild day today with highs expected to be in the mid-70s. a little cooler there in chicago, 55-degree. aler air al-- cooler air off to the north and west. gaithersburg, northern montgomery county, northwest portions of howard county pushing up towards baltimore. some heavy

news tonight. recovery of a young woman who took a tragic fall in yosemite national park. >> world news is coming up next. i'm cheryl jennings. >> from all of us here, thanks for watching we're going live with you great pictures. that is the giants world series trophy and the team arriving back in san francisco a little bit before 4:00 this afternoon. >> look who is holding that. home run king of the series. what a great, great series it was. >> look at how many people. thousands turned out. >>

. >>> a new parking plan for d.c. it would reserve about 10% of all meters for disabled drivers. it is also expected to cut down on fraud. >> the new effort comes after a lot of people complained about the red top meters. that program is suspended and now, as fox 5's matt ackland shows us, there is a new plan to consider. >> reporter: it was supposed to solve all of the problems. in red top meters would reserve spots for the disabled and spot the abuse of the city's old free disabled parking policy. soon after it started, the council shut it down. there was mass confusion. >> the program got off to what we can characterize as a fairly rocky start. >> reporter: many complained there were simply not enough red tops. but now, a plan introduced by councilmember mary cheh would make 1800 of the district's 18,800 meter spots red top disabled parking only. >> all 100 red top meters will be installed at the end of blocks nearest to the the curb cuts. >> reporter: fraud was one reason for the reform. a fox 5 investigation exposed those who and to be using disabled parking placards to park

parked. yes. >> it's amazing. it's always something new coming out every year. >> next time. i'm horrible at parking. >> liz crenshaw, news4. >> okay. one thing to keep in mind if you have the park assist activated, and you want to terminate the self-parging feature, you can always just grab the wheel and take control. that's got to be weird. i've got to talk to liz about that. >>> in alexandria, a marine who served in afghanistan will soon be reunited with a wartime friend. sean delling formed a special bond with a stray dog named bolt. he took the dog in and nursed him back to health and let him sleep in the tent during the winter. but the commander of his base ordered all the dogs to be removed. they were taken miles away, but bolt just couldn't be separated from his owner. >> apparently ran behind the convoy for roughly ten miles or so. pitch black, 3:00 in the morning. and all of a sudden out of nowhere, bolt just comes running full speed right behind me. it was a good feeling, you know. having your buddy back, an awesome feeling. >> that's love. well, dulling could not t

park. one of the big concerns here in new york city is flooding.attan in that evacuation zone. standing already in some water that's been coming in. we're probably 12 hours away from the storm hitting, plus or minus a few hours. another big concern is power outages. already there are some. just under 20,000 power outages across six northeastern states to report. we're expecting that number to go much higher. some predictions have said 10 million people could be without power along the east coast once hurricane sandy has done her damage. we've got lots to talk to you this morning as well about what's happening on the waterways. rear admiral dan abel, thank you for being with us. tell me a little bit about what you're doing. i know the waterways, new york harbor has been closed. is that correct? >> soledad, yes, it has. but, you know, your coast guard has been working this case, getting ready for this beast. we started middle of last week. you know, the extent of the storm, we're talking, you know, hurricane force winds from chatham, massachusetts, t

park from closing. their copark preservation fund became a state wild audit. raising $350,000. then came news the park's department had a stash of $54 million somehow hidden in its own budget. >> if they did know, shame on them. >> more than enough to keep co.and others informed. the $54 million was found after the preservation fund wrote a check to the state for $279,000. the volunteers want that money back. >> i think we should probably write to the donors and offer their money back. because it was under false pretenses. >> the state says no can do. there is no mechanism right now in state law to have us refund money to the cofoundation. we reached out to them, we would like to have that parter nipp alive. >> they never tried to reach us and there hasn't been any e- mail contact either. >> the damage is done in trust and money. another $20 million in pledges the fund secured is evaporating. >> we don't ask them anymore. >> as a result of this? >> they can't get a refund from the state, the volunteers are asking them to give them a memorandum of understanding. it can only be used to help hen