student at new school for social research an activist with the occupy student debt campaign she joins me now to tell me more about what the occupy movement is doing about all this debt pamela thanks for joining us you know there has been some controversy about the methods that the occupy movement is using taking foreclosed homes and now some are suggesting to take in university buildings and even refusing to pay debt are these methods feasible and tell me more about them. well in terms of our campaign which is the occupies campaign. we we have a pleasure refusal which basically collectivizes a million people toward the following goals one interest free student loans if they continue to exist to a public education system that is free three private institutions opening up their books and showing us where they actually spend the money and for a write off of the current student debt because it was obtained through a predatory lending practices and is therefore not legitimate in the first place so we do have a pledge refusal we think it is absolutely viable and we are ready and waiting for

student at the new school for social research and activists for the occupy student debt campaign now for all of obama's talk on the campaign trail about the importance of protecting whistleblowers his administration has been the worst and has the worst track record in science in prosecuting those he once called to protect one of the most startling cases of government whistle blowing is sabella edmonton's who's been called the most gagged woman in history so belle is an iranian born former f.b.i. translator who's been fighting for years to tell her story until now after waiting three hundred forty days for f.b.i. clearance of her memoir she decided to release the book on her own in full without any approval or redactions the book is explosive allegations that indict multiple levels of the government and traitorous deception and cover up inside the f.b.i. sabella admin's is the founder and director of the national security whistleblower coalition and the author of the book classified woman she joins me in the studio for more. sybil there's been a gag order against you for years and you

reporter: we caught up with weschler and other activists at a recent conference at the new school for social research new york, where the occupy movement was plotting its next steps. a mass movement to repudiate student loan debt has been on their agenda since the fall. >> a lot of the way people talk about it's like, "well, you shouldn't have took out that debt, you should have known better." >> reporter: brooklyn college senior biola jeje. >> we were told, "go to college whatever the cost, get an education, you'll be able to get a job after." and that's not... and that's not what's happened. >> we have to get rid of this level of debt. >> reporter: steve max has been an activist since 1951, when he organized his fifth grade anti- discrimination and firecrackers club. >> it just defies logic that we keep on going the way were going and hoping to be a competitive country. >> reporter: but the people who took out the loans made a contractual commitment to pay it back. >> they made a contractual commitment in a very different economy. and you can say, "well, it's their tough luck, they should've known