it's an indication that there is a new sooil, a new renewed effort to really bring the message of jesus christ to the world and to the culture and in particular, to young people. now, you've been to a world youth day; is that right? can you till me about that? >> yeah. how long ago was that? it was my senior year of -- of high school so that was 2005. so i was actually -- >> nine years ago. >> yeah. it was pope benedict's first world youth day. >> and where was that? >> it was pretty exciting. actually, at the time it wasn't a big teal he was catholic. i just knew a bunch of people were going to europe. i've never been to europe. >> that's where you were? >> yeah. that's sort of where i was with my faith and everything. some of my friends were going, friends from my school. you was like, yeah, i want to go, and -- but just going there, and it just made it so real, like, oh, wow, like the pope is actually, like, a real person. you know, i get to see him. >> he was like this small. i'm like, oh my gosh, there's pope benedict, and he was talking to all of us. you know, it's like we were --