i realized that's not the new testament. that's the statue of liberty. why did i think of that at that moment? >> it's not revelations. >> i was ghouling it and realized i was thinking of come to me all who are weary and il give you rest which is actually the new testament. >> you were quoting the statue of liberty. >> i'm all of those today, the tired, weary and poor. i was at the white house. it's rare you get to see a pope and a president in the same environment. i got an invite from the president's office. it was great to be there. fascinating hear it the pope speak english which is a rare thing he does. he will be speaking english again today in front of congress. of course, that's where we'll get started today on this thursday. >>> the pope is on the move and will make history along the way. >> his first full day in the nation's capital was full of incredible images. a small girl was lifted over a barrier. security tried to move her away. when the pope signaled for her, a guard picked up 5-year-old sophie cruz and brought her to the popemobile. >>

several election cycles howard dean once said when he said, what is your favorite book in the new testamenthe said job, and he said well, one of those gospels, does not show him to be bible-literate. >> rahman masmoudi, a lot are photographed going to or coming from church. it is very well understood you have to talk about that a little when you're in campaign season. would a muslim have to do almost the opposite, minimize that? avoid talking about it? or make a very clear delineation between the life he lives 9:00 to 5:00 monday through friday and his private devotions? >> well, i think the reality, ray, is that we are living in very difficult and turbulent times with what's going on in the middle east and syria and iraq , with the rise of extremism and terrorism in the name of islam, it hats really hurt the image of islam in this country and around the world. this is a reality. the problem is there is a big phenomenon of islamophobia growing in this country and there's misunderstanding, total misunderstanding of islam and what islam teep teaches because people unfortunately judge islam by

and so when we speak of evangelism in the new testament, we're speaking about the good news of god's able, stand to your feet, and let us call ourselves together for worship and celebration. technically, what happens with the music in our service is, it begins with a prelude, and from that point on, music is almost analogous to the old steam engine. it starts rather slow, but as it builds up speed, it increases its energy. we call our service of worship, a service of celebration and jubilation, primarily because of the good news. when you hear good news, you are celebrative. but i also recognize that on any sunday gathered in the pews of this sanctuary are persons who have not had a great deal to celebrate during the week. and so music serves not only as a rallying point, but it also serves as a therapeutic means. (man) this music has one message. you've got to feel something. you leave here, you should feel better than when you came in the door. tom dorsey was the godfather, if you will, of gospel music. who was he? the blues musician, jazz musician, playing in the honky tonks and a

[applause] >> people don't realize new testament is a lot of crazy stuff than the old testmented and we need to update it now so people can have gay marriage and men can keep their foreskin and not have to worry about it. >> speaking in tongues and doing that. >> we update our tongues like every couple months. >> do you think it's fair to compare this to the civil rights struggle? do you think that's fair. >> with this kim davis to the civil rights struggle. >> i will say it for you, hell no. >> i think struggle for gay rights and struggle civil rights it's still a struggle. i know plenty of black people who are gay and gay people who are black. >> i know that gaze don't happen to be black but black guys happen to be gays. >> i'm black -- [applause] >> the wording. >> people want to make kim davis into being a martyr. he's not at the front of the line, it's some won't doesn't want to sign her name. the bible says she can repent so she can sign her name, do a hale hear anhale -- hail mary and har day. >> she's going to make a fortune. >> repent to the church first. >> that's going to

country and the new testament focuses on the guy who hates money. like a toss-up. [ laughter ] [ applause ] this made me laugh. if you see this today, jeb bush published a new campaign poster. i saw it today. it looked like something might have been a little off. okay, watch this. check this out. >> what's wrong with this picture? here's a hint. check out jeb bush's left hand. how exactly does that happen? [ laughter ] >> jimmy: maybe that's the part of him that's latino? [ laughter ] maybe he has a latino hand? i don't know. [ applause ] he has a latino hand. and this is pretty cool, nbc just announced that president obama will appear on an episode of "running wild with bear grylls" later this year. [ laughter ] yeah, i guess the episode features obama roughing it on a a golf course that hasn't been mowed for a couple days. [ laughter ] [ as obama ] "it's a disaster. what do i do here, bear? what do i do, bear? [ laughter ] bear, what do i do?" [ applause ] [ as bear grylls ] "i don't know, i don't know what you do. you probably drink your own urine

look at jesus in the new testament. he was comfortable with all kinds of people.foundation of the priesthood is never turning down an invitation to a meal with fwhib, got just a particular race of people. this is what he did as archbishop and cardinal. this is what he's doing as pope. there's nothing fancy about there. no frills for best sense. >> for him it's matthew 25, asked about did you reach out to the poor, the sick? >> the hungry. look at all the places he's gone around the world in these visits. there's almost some signature moments. the moment of a prison, the moment of poor people. those scenes visiting the hubbells in south america. i was with him in australia. it was extraordinary. he's not doing this for photo ops. he's doing this because this has been part of his dna all along. he's also doing it to offer us an example. what he's doing is saying this is how we are church and this is how we are church at our best. it wakes us all up and it's jarring. >> i'll spend a lot f time with you in the days ahead. appreciate that. thank you very much. father t

what is the difference between old and the new testament? i hear people talking about those things and i don't understand the difference in who says st. paul guy? >> must be somebody really important. harvard like so many of our universities was founded in the christian seminary some years ago. not every graduate from harvard has to be a leader but how can consider oneself educated in today's world without understanding the basics of western civilization? i answered questions about islam and mohammad and the koran and it almost appears when you send your children to school when you interact with national foreigners and folks along the coast more and more often it almost feels like we are talking past each other and we don't have the same common experiences and vocabulary. i'm here to tell you i'm a proud son of the south american survey. i guess i'm one of those poor souls plugged into our guns and religion in louisiana. [applause] the example from the book i want to share with you chapter 16 of the book called it's the culture, stupid and w

symbol of our prayer up to heaven and taking us back to the idea of sacrifice and it's clear in the new testamentfice from us but rather a contrite heart. so there's a contrast that there's a sacrifice that's already been done for us and that's by jesus christ on the cross and now we have to connect with that and our prayers are going up into heaven, just like the incense and that he would strengthen our resolve and, of course, the strength in the family. ♪ >> in the name of the father and of the son of the holy spirit. amen. [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> let us pray. oh, lord, father, only begotten son, bless the virgin mary, his mother, and we pray that this church might be more fit for the day by day and the holiness of our children and all of the families. for our lord jesus christ, your son, whose life in vain with you in the unity of the holy spirit, one lord forever and ever. >> amen. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: he answered, i heard you in the garden but i was

the matter is nowhere mentioned in the old testament or new testament or the early creeds. in fact, the ban is based on a complex extrapolation from vague language in one biblical verse. if you want to understand the main message of jesus christ you don't have to search the scriptures. he says it again and again. blessed be poor for yours is the kingdom of god. jesus has specific advice on how to handle the poor. treat them as you would christ himself. sell your possessions and give to the poor. when you hold a banquet do not invite the wealthy and powerful because you do so in the hope they will return the favor and reward you. instead invite the dispossessed and you will be rewarded by god. we believe that people who are successful are more admiral in some ways than the rest of us. in the kingdom of heaven the bible warns the last shall be first and the first last. in other words, be thankful for your success but don't think it makes you superior in any deep sense. he's been attacked of claimed as a marxist, unionist or radical environmentalist. he's simply reminding each

people who think that the church has a message around issues of sexuality that goes back to the new testamenthanged without changing christianity itself. >> a battle that is playing out in the crucible of american catholicism, just as the leader of that church comes to visit. >> is he excited to go to america? >> yes. he feels this as a great challenge. this is the impression that i have. >> challenge why? >> he will have the opportunity to give to this leading country and all its inhabitants, a special message. >> but when he becomes the first pope to address congress, it's almost certain not everyone will like his message. especially some politically conservative catholics. >> they think that he is, you know, talking too much about climate change, that he's too critical of capitalism, that he is too harsh about a system that has, after all, lifted lots of people out of poverty and so on. [ speaking foreign language ] ♪ ♪ >> a church that hid from controversy is now led by a pope who courts it. >> pope francis isn't changing church teaching. he's expressing it in ways that are fresh and vigo

what is the difference between old and the new testament? i hear people talking about those things and i don't understand the difference in who says st. paul guy? >> must be somebody really important. harvard like so many of our universities was founded in the christian seminary some years ago. not every graduate from harvard has to be a leader but how can consider oneself educated in today's world without understanding the basics of western civilization? i answered questions about islam and mohammad and the koran and it almost appears when you send your children to school when you interact with national foreigners and folks along the coast more and more often it almost feels like we are talking past each other and we don't have the same common experiences and vocabulary. i'm here to tell you i'm a proud son of the south american survey. i guess i'm one of those poor souls plugged into our guns and religion in louisiana. [applause] the example from the book i want to share with you chapter 16 of the book called it's the culture, stupid and w

to read the gospels, we have heard in the literature jirk the word from the old testimony, the new testament, the gospel, followed by the homily. ♪ ♪ [ chantisinging prayer ] ♪ [ singing prayer ] >> professor, the pope is about to do the reading? >> the word of god. yes, the -- to spread the word of god, which he has talked about in connection to the saint, about bringing the word of god's people, he speaks -- this is a catholic mass, particular resonance to catholics, but remember, he says he speaks to all people of goodwill. he used that today in his white house address and how you bring the word of god to people who don't know it or don't understand it. i think that he hasn't changed church teaching at all, but he has helped people access it. >> translator: rejoice in the lord always. i shall say it again. rejoice. these are striking words, words which impact our lives. paul tells us to rejoice. he practically orders us to rejoice. this command resonates about a desire we all have for a fulfilling life, a meaningful life, a joyful life. it is as if paul could hear what each one of us is t

and that's a prohibition of the new testament. in his prohibition against remarriage after divorce than he was about gay marriage, which he didn't comment on. would she be as much of a rock star if she had refused to marry divorced couples? ofrg not. so there's an element of bigotry. this is all about gay people and the strong opposition to gay marriage in some parts of the country. and let's face that reality. people use religion as a cup board for big op e ot ri. you're an salutely right. this is no different where the marriage is constitutional required. and if the state of virginia, in that case, had tried to fool around by saying well, the clerk won't do it, but maybe her assistant will, nobody would have tolerated that. and we can't tolerate this, as well. gay people have to be able to get married. i'm glad the judge actually took her out of jail where she was a martyr and now, let's sure we enforce the law and make sure that gay people can get married without any hesitation and without any roadblocks. >> let's be clear abou

natures of christ, the divinity and humanity of christ which is our belief, and the old and the new testamentcause in a sense they are exercising governing over the people of god. the holy father walks in and carrying with him, holding in his hand a staff and that is same design used by pope paul the sixth, many years ago. holy father carries that staff because he is the shepherd, the shepherd of the whole flock, the shepherd of the shepherds really so he carries that to symbolize his pastoring of the people have of god. >> and then in terms of his vestments. >> the the vestments are the vestments that priest was use any where for celebration of the mass. the the long white robe is called the alb, white for symbol of purity. then around the priest waste is divine him and then a stole around his neck which is symbol of the authority and outer garment but these are similar to what priests would wear anywhere in the world and the holy father is wearing them as a priest, as a bishop and as a celebrant of this mass. >> a moment ago we saw philadelphia's former cardinal, justin rigali who is partic

the message of the old testament and the new testament is to help people be better.esident obama this morning say significant religious things in the talk, deeply christian things. the esex of christianity if you -- the essex of christianity, if you will. the pope repeated that. we are here to make the world a better place and care for one another. that is the goal. in the process we lead people to heaven, too. jonathan: i imagine you get a review of the church from the pope. >> we will hear about it. there will be a press conference this everything at the hotel and we will hear father lombardi share with us the emotion. i want to hear what happened in the white house and oval office and sidebar things that happened. jonathan: he wasn't comfortable in that session. >> he will be extremely tomorrow at the soup kitchen he goes to. the genius of the pope is he puts everybody at ease. no matter if he is with the rich, mighty or the powerful or the street person that meets him along the way. if he's in a barrio in brazil and he is in somebody's home drinking the matte. he

look at jesus in the new testament. he was comfortable with all kinds of people.iblical foundation of the priesthood is never turning down an invitation to a meal with anyone, not just a particular race of people. this is what he did as archbishop and cardinal. this is what he's doing as pope. there's nothing fancy about that. no frills for best sense. >> for him it's matthew 25, what jesus said about in the final days you'll be asked about did you reach out to the poor. >> the hungry. look at all the places he's gone around the world in these visits. there's almost some signature moments. the moment of a prison, the moment of poor people. those scenes visiting the hovls in south carolina. i was with him in brazil. it was extraordinary. he's not doing this for photo ops. he's doing this because this has been part of his dna all along. he's also doing it to offer us an example. what he's doing is saying this is how we are church and this is how we are church at our best. it wakes us all up and it's jarring. >> i'll spend a lot of time with you in the days ahead. i

the thing that when we look at it and study the great lessons out of the old testament and the new testament, it's the thing that allows us to listen to that little voice inside herself that tells us what to do. that's on trying to say. i'm not going to get it right all the time but i'm going to do the best i can't because this is what i need to do for my kids in my country. >> were getting to the end of our time, i want to give you a chance for a more reflective moment which is, one of the things you talk about in the book the sum of the moral values get shed because of a win at all cost attitude. >> that's a tough thing to say because we all know there's a particular way of accusing mena being wimpy if you are being anything of coming in first and you take that on a little bit here and what you say page eight as you say, let's face it, too many of us embrace these core values and fear loan because when the gun goes off and the race begins, we see how easy it is to shed these values to lighten our moral load. what do you tell your daughters about how, when you are wanting to win, wanting to

liturgy of the word where we will have readings from particularly the gospels and the old and the new testamentsthen what's called the liturgy of the eucharist, which is a consecration of the bread and the wine, and then the distribution of communion. what's wonderful is that this is the same mass and the same readings that will be celebrated all over the world today. he will pick the readings of the day, and he will go through a normal mass. obviously it's different because of the size of it and the music and the crowds, but this is the same mass you will find in every catholic church across the country. >> for our viewers i want to show everybody we are not going to be yammering throughout the mass. we are going to allow you at home or wherever you are watching this to celebrate this -- the final visit by pope francis just as everybody here is celebrating it as well. >> apropos of father martin's mass, the papal liturgy is a regular catholic mass but with much better production values. >> and we know that the pope also at the end of the mass will be giving to five families a copy of the gospel

the bible, in both the old and new testament, god hates divorce. and there are very few exceptions where divorce is allowed. it goes on to name adulterers and people who have divorced in the same vein as any other sin. she has chosen this lying in the sand to be the sin of same sex. there are people who might wonder if she worked there, will she then look at me in the same objective or less than objective way of same-sex marriage and not give me a license? she cannot do her job. >> if someone wants to make a charge of discrimination against kim davis, let them come forward. >> and they have, obviously. >> the united states supreme court in the hobby lobby case said it's not the government's job to decide whether it's consistent with their beliefs or a reasonable objection. the government's job is to decide whether it's sincere. >> but she's not following the federal government. >> it doesn't matter. the test is the same. government employees are not exempted or excluded from rifra application. >> well, right now she is behind bars and we'll see if

reminded me of howard dean saying that job was his favorite new testament book. on the other hand, as a catholic, we always get criticized for not knowing the bible well enough. we spend too much time reading the catechism. so many politicians use their faith as a cover story. if donald trump comes across as another one of those, on the other hand, it's in his heart, it's in his soul. i'm not somebody to say what's going on there. i wish politicians didn't drag it out and use it as a cover story but on the other hand i don't know what's in donald trump's heart. >> that's an honest and respectful answer. tim carney, thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, as bernie sanders closes the gap, the hillary clinton campaign brings out the big guns. securing senator jeanne shaheen's endorsement in new hampshire. i'll talk about the decision and its timing. >>> plus president obama brings climate change on his visit to the alaskan arctic. >>> three historic hurricanes simultaneously race through the pacific. layover. 24 hours. hello, reykjavik. oh, so that's ho

of onet the bottom line to say, the woman said she draws catholicism -- most of the new testament is written by paul who never met jesus and twisted the church from jesus's teachings. thank you very much for everything and have a good day. thank you very much for everything and have a good day. host: i will let you respond. guest: a couple of things. the vatican's objection to those people who are part of president obama's welcoming committee is not because there is something wrong with the pope associating with those people. vaticane fact that the says this is a situation ripe for political manipulative. that is a sense for political endorsement. that is a position that you should not be putting a world leader in that position. you are really manipulating the situation to try to take sides. it is not at all -- we have photos of the pope hugging a transgendered men. he reaches out to everybody. there is no animus in this pope. one thing he cannot abide is the primacy of ideology of the people and manipulation and that is what is going on here. host: your safety pope would reach out,

old testament, new testament? y. >> old testament, new testament. >> i like them both. >> there is a fundamental difference. >> the right answer would have been, look, chuck, i love jesus, do you? iowa is different. we will see how it plays. >> that is really important in iowa. it really is. >> you raise a different point with one line a couple second ago, off air. if you take the top three, trump, carson, carley fiorina, you said about another candidate, if you run as if you got nothing to lose, will you do better. >> we were talking about chris christy on jimmy fallon. the old chris christy seems back. he was good in his sunday morning interview with chris wallace on fox. he seemed loose. candidate? after obama basically put her away. how is it that these guys can't handle being loose and comfortable when their moment is on them and instead they become good candidates after there's nothing left to lose. you know. >> we have five months. so the question is, how do these guys get traction? and who knows. if carson

. >> the book of exodus is about migrants and wanderers and the old and new testaments are the filledut that. and the this is heritage month. and the pope is coming at a real hispanic moment in the united states with the growing influence of the latinos in business and politics. you have two latinos running for president. all of this is converging. it is not by accident and that is what makes it so special. >> and the people want trump. he is number one in the polls. it is not an accident. it is not a glitch. people resonate with what he says. they don't like political correctness. they don't like that people aren't direct. they don't like that people avoid these really ugly realities around us. so what do you think the pope can do in a message that will reach people? >> the first that will reach all of us or should, is his style of leadership. the humility. i think we live in a an age where leaders, political leader, certainly business, churches. sometimes the title matters. the salary matters. the perks matter. the distance between ourselves and the flock or constituents. this guy i

symbol of our prayer up to heaven and taking us back to the idea of sacrifice and it's clear in the new testamentut rather a contrite heart. so there's a contrast that there's a sacrifice that's already been done for us and that's by jesus christ on the cross and now we have to connect with that and our prayers are going up into heaven, just like the incense and that he would strengthen our resolve and, of course, the strength in the family. ♪ >> in the name of the father and of the son of the holy spirit. amen. [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] [ speaking in foreign language ] ♪ ♪ ♪ >> let us pray. oh, lord, father, only begotten son, bless the virgin mary, his mother, and we pray that this church might be more fit for the day by day and the holiness of our children and all of the families. for our lord jesus christ, your son, whose life in vain with you in the unity of the holy spirit, one lord forever and ever. >> amen. [ speaking in foreign language ] >> translator: he answered, i heard you in the garden but i was afraid because

entrance procession, opening prayers then there will be readings from the bible, old testament, new testament, reading from the gospel. the highlight for many people will be when the pope preaches his homily, which is a brief talk he will give meditating on the scripture readings. then you'll have the eucharistic prayers, communion and exiting procession. that will be it. usually these things take about an hour and a half, hour 45 minutes. >> what i love especially love jim sciutto you're familiar with this as well you and i have interviewed many world leaders. many speak english well but reluctant when they come to the united states to speak english because i have a thick accent, may not be perfect, i'll speak in their own language and they'll be translated. this pope, he's not shy, he's willing to speak in english. and i give him all the credit in the world. >> absolutely. what a difference it makes to speak. when we heard him in congress speaking there, you know, you listened up more he clearly as john has said he's been working at it. he's had a teacher with him to help him on pronunciati

what is the new testament if not a story of jesus leading a social movement for justice that upset everybodyround them, but it was true, and it was the work of god and the world. >> there is something both about what you've done there in terms of a reclamation of a space that i think often gets handed over to the right. the religion exists on the right, that's theirs, so we have to talk about a republicly indicati -- replication of black lives matter. this feels like a choreography of politics very clearly about stoking a certain kind of fear, and at the same time with your hand on it saying, i'm with martin luther king. >> any time you have a segment of the society that's the most vulnerable to state violence and to the extreme inequities in this culture, when they speak out, when they stand up, when they fight back, they are immediately categorized not just as defiant but disruptive to the democracy, disruptive to the social fabric in some ways. >> which they are. it actually is disruptive, but on purpose. >> right. so part of what i think is really important to understand about black live

at that point he invoked one of the most famous portions of the new testament.the golden rule. >> let us remember the golden rule. do unto others as you -- do unto others as you would have them do unto you. >> pope francis also declared that the death penalty should be abolished across the world. he quoted his own encyclical about taking greater care of the environment. after the speech he made his way to the house speaker's balcony, waved, gave a prayer for the audience, blessing families everywhere, and he ended his trip to capitol hill with a very simple, very american message. >> thank you very much and god bless america. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell has been covering the pope's visit to capitol hill. kelly, so many folks end their speeches there with god bless america, god bless the united states, but it really does sound different when it comes from pope francis. >> this is an extraordinary day on so many levels. this is where i come to work every day and today it was a different place. there are lots of highs around here on inaugurations or the visits of dign

. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> the second reading always comes from the new testament.peaking in foreign language ] >> translator: your clothes and gold and silver have and the creation has been against you and you have feel a crying out and the cry of the hardest thing have reached the ears of the lord. you have lived in luxury in pleasure -- luxury and pleasure. you have condemned, you have murdered the righteous one. he offers you no resistance. ♪ ♪ ♪ hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah ♪ ♪ alleluia ♪ alleluia ♪ alleluia, alleluia ♪ alleluia, alleluia ♪ ♪ alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪ alleluia, alleluia, alleluia ♪ alleluia ♪ >> today's gospel comes from the book of mark, to be delivered in english, why the significance of this reading? >> this is about the freedom of god to bring gospel to paul. ♪ ♪ [ speaking in foreign language ] ♪ at the john said to jesus ♪ teacher, we saw someone driving out demons in your name ♪ ♪ and we tried to present him because he does not follow us ♪ ♪ jesus replied, do not avenge him ♪ ♪ there is no one who performs in my name ♪ ♪ who c

some time after the new testament began the old testament is irrelevant.ons. i think he's trying to restore that sense of brotherhood and sisterhood and it is really important in this world we don't get into an east/west fight over islam and christianity. >> this pope is bringing this message to a city that has been built with divisiveness, that continues even to this point of where is this group, why is this group missing. many of these questions will be asked. but the overall message i thought was brilliantly put in a "new york times" piece today, bringing up the connection of martin luther king to this pope, and then having martin luther king's name mentioned today in this ceremony. >> weren't you impressed? weren't you impressed. >> i was absolutely. here i am, my catholic school days and years far behind me. but this piece actually quoted a hindu woman who was there to see the pope and many of the volunteers from philadelphia, to washington, d.c. are people who are not catholics and see this as such a divisive time in this world, not just this country

the law of the land is not the old testament or the new testament or the koran or the torah.the law of the land is the constitution of the united states. isn't that correct, miss richards? >> that's correct. >> and abortion is a constitutional right, isn't that correct? >> correct. >> and planned parenthood allows women to access that constitutional right, isn't that correct? >> yes, we do. >> and none of that gets any federal funding, is that correct? >> that's correct, except in the very limited circumstances allowed by federal law. >> thank you. now, there are multiple medical clinics across america that also provide abortion services, correct? >> i'm sorry? could you repeat? >> there are multiple medical clinics -- >> and hospitals. >> -- and hospitals across america that provide abortion services, correct? >> correct. >> and they also provide services that have medicaid reimbursement, isn't that correct? >> i believe that's correct, yes. >> and no one is saying let's shut down medical clinics and hospitals because they also happen to provide abortion services, is that co

after this hymn there will be three different psalms sung, two and one from the new testament.ach his homily. then the church sings the prayer of our lady. my soul magnifies the lord, my spirit rejoices in god the savior. and then prayers for the church and the world, a concluding prayer and that will be the end of the service. but it's a real reminder of how much christian worship owes to our jewish brothers and sisters. >> we are looking at this beautiful church right now. it is just something else. it's incredible. all fixed up now in perfect timing for this event. ♪ ♪ i cry to you lord and you healed me ♪ ♪ i will praise you forever ♪ i cry to you lord and you healed me ♪ ♪ i will praise you forever ♪ i will praise you lord, your have rescued me and not enemies rejoice over me ♪ ♪ lord i cry to you for help and you have healed me ♪ ♪ you have raised my soul from the dead ♪ ♪ sing songs to the lord ♪ ♪ give thanks to his holy name ♪ i say to myself in my good fortunate nothing will ever distract me ♪ ♪ ♪ to you lord i cry ♪ ♪ lord list♪ ♪ ♪ glory to the father and to the son

the law of the land is not the old testament or the new testament or the koran or the torah. the law of the land is the constitution of the uses. isn't that correct, ms. richards? >> that's correct. >> and abortion is a constitutional right, is that correct? >> correct. >> and planned parenthood allows women to access that constitutional right, isn't that correct? >> yes, we do. >> and none of that gets federal funding? >> that is correct, except for very limited circumstances allowed by federal law. >> thank you. there are multiple medical clinics across america that also provide abortion services, correct? >> i'm sorry. >> there are multiple medical clinics. >> and hospitals. >> that provide abortion services. >> correct. >> they also provide services that have medicaid reimbursement? >> i believe that's correct, yes. >> and no one is saying let's shut down medical cliqunics and hospitals because they also provide abortion? >> i don't think that's been proposed. >> yet they're trying to shut you down because you actually have separate line items, that's not a new or novel c

the old test meant and new testament aren't either. we have a separation of church and state.n individuals. as you know very well, i want every slams terrorist dead. no prison, dead. but when it comes no matter their race, no matter their religion, the american thing to do is judge them individually to the extent we should judge them at all, and i am not going to blame and condemn every muslim american. i'm not going to do it because when i was in the army, i was so i think dr. carson was foolish. but, again, i go back to my state. i would rather have a patriot -- a patriotic iranian american president than hillary clinton any day. stuart: now, you've been sharply critical. donald trump on this program. you've done it. now, i just want you to listen to donald trump who this morning on fox news seemed to back up ben carson. just listen to this. >> i've really gotten to like him. during that database did it, we were high-fiving each other. we were having a good time. but he still keeps speaking his opinion and we're supposed to keep freedom of speech and he feels strongly about

it will be like the new testament parable.fertile so soil. >> senator we all saw the pe picture of the little girl being lifted over the barricades and she ran up and gave a letter because her father and parent undocumented. he talked about the nation of immigrants and you are a fluent spanish speaker. what do you want him to say? would you hope he would address the story of somebody like -- >> i hope so. we are a naegs tion of immigran. last week they were here celebrating the 450th anniversary of the founding of st. augestene, florida. spanish was spoken in this nation before english and we've been a hispanic nation since our first days and i hope to pope talks about this a little bit. it puts a different spin on the whole immigration. we've been a hispanic nation sense our very first days and i hope the latin american pope can speak to that. >> yr in honor given your work 20-30 years ago. today the pope addressing the congress and the people united states of america here, he's going to be the only person in that room who is

reading a that he is new testament that i've not been counted. i'm mystified at it.ost: this is adrian via text message. in his speech, the pope shows flawed catholics as great individuals. dorothy and burton. do you think this has reestablish the traditional idea of a perfect model catholic? guest: i think that what he is models --with those and i do not have any inside information -- is that you do not have to be perfect in order to be a model catholic. he has said that in some the other ways. do not be afraid to make mistakes. he talks to priest that way, too. for me to hearng the pope a few weeks ago tell priest that yours not disposed to mercy and compassion, do not get near the confessional. esther bishop to give you an -- asktrative job if yo your bishop to give you an administrative job. if you are not disposed to mercy, you cause great damage in the confessional. he is advertising a pastoral message that is deeply merciful and compassionate. think the phrase perfect catholic just does not register anymore. i think what he is saying is that you can be in perf

new thing to say about donald trump. you know, he clearly doesn't know the difference between the old testament and new testament. it seems he likes the art of the deal almost as much as the bible and yet standing among evangelicals as increased. when out in iowa, he basically insulted them and it doesn't make a difference. >> jason, if you're dealing with a voter group that cares about their faith and it being taken seriously, especially the bible, we are talking evangelicals here, more than anything else, he is about the opposite of what they would want on paper and yet they are choosing first to synthesize. >> i think there's something about his willingness to be incorrect. and i think in the poll, the fact that a majority of republican voters being concerned about illegal immigration, that has to be of great concern to the rest of the republican party. because i think that even if trump does inevitably falter, he will have changed the shape of the race by forcing other candidates to go through immigration in a way that could harm them in a general election. >> if i can jump in here for a second, the evangelic

a new testament word he uses a lot is kyros, a privileged moment in history. .e talks about this as a kyros. i think it's because he believes historically we're at one of those pivot points where things can go one of two bays, we can either go the path of exclusion and dysfunction and end up some place we don't want to be or we can turn things around. this is not a moment for timidity. this is a moment for boldness. >> people are trying to identify his significance right now. it's obvious to catholics. we known him as the head of the church. he's like a new nelson mandela, awe uniter. most men and women of influence want to seize and magnify this moment. it is attention for francis because he does not want it to be about him. we heard last night from those close to him saying he is frustrated at all the attention he is getting. he doesn't want to be distracted from the message. how uniquely pope francis. >> after he was on the cover of "time" magazine he came out and said, it's wrong to see the pope as a super star. i'm not a super star. the point is message. ob

and i think you would agree with me, for jesus if you read the new testment and believe that the new testamentsus christ looks upon those who divorce, upon those who lust after women or men, equally is lost as people who engage -- let's say get married or of the same sex. would you agree with that proposition under jesus' teaching? and then i'll get to the second question. >> okay, what i would agree with, whatever sins we commit and we all commit them, me, you, we all commit them, the message of the gospel is not to delineate the sins we commit. it's to emphasize the grace of god to forgive those sins and cleanse us from them. yes, we commit sins and whether it's the sin of divorce, failing to live up to the covenants of our marriage and thinking or speaking evil about other people, there's no a person watching us today who's not a sinner. >> exactly. >> we've all fallen short of the glory of god. my question to you is, are you here this morning, were you here yesterday, were you in kentucky yesterday talking about your faith and you were there because of your faith or were you there because

the law of the land is not the old testament or the new testament or the koran or the torah.the law of the land is the constitution of the uses. isn't that correct, ms. richards? >> that's correct. >> and abortion is a constitutional right, is that correct? >> correct. >> and planned parenthood allows women to access that constitutional right, isn't that correct? >> yes, we do. >> and none of that gets federal funding? >> that is correct, except for very limited circumstances allowed by federal law. >> thank you. there are multiple medical clinics across america that also provide abortion services, correct? >> i'm sorry. >> there are multiple medical clinics. >> and hospitals. >> that provide abortion services. >> correct. >> they also provide services that have medicaid reimbursement? >> i believe that's correct, yes. >> and no one is saying let's shut down medical cliqunics and hospitals because they also provide abortion? >> i don't think that's been proposed. >> yet they're trying to shut you down because you actually have separate line items, that's not a new or novel co