don't forget, jesse jackson is the same guy who called new york city hymie town.recovered from that. his own show. he never apologized. the clintons, they had larry patterson who was a security guard in the detail for bill clinton when he was governor of arkansas, and he has written extensively about how hillary and bill use anti-jewish and anti-black slurs. look where they are. i think that she has done what she needs to do. her fans show that they still love her. she is redeemable, and a thinker brand is not toast at all. she will be back in a thing she will be successful again. dennis: a little short. we have to make it -- karen, once you drops that bomb of the in-word, which seems to be -- i mean, radioactive. is there any way that a star can respond in the right way? is there something that paula dean could have done better? >> first of all, you know, it was -- that issue is a very sensitive, emotionally charged issue. it is different than martha stewart when it was about money or greed. and so, you know, i really don't owning what she did wrong. i mean, she