like "the new york times," like nbc news, donald trump has targeted "the wall street journal" specificallyhere is one time in south care carolina in the middle of the primary. >> i don't like the "wall street journal," and it is going to be out of business very shortly just like the rest of them. >> obviously, filled with hyperbole and sarcasm. how did you handle the direct attacks? >> you know, you have to get used to it. you get used to the -- those kind of attacks. you get used to this strange tough love that donald trump kind of -- he would say things like that. he would attack our reporters individually. he would attack anything we had done, anything he didn't like. then at the same time, you know how much he actually reads the newspaper or watches tv. >> it was interesting. there was i guess a leaked memo where you went to the newsroom and you said, re-emphasizing everybody has to be fair to him. were you concerned the personal attacks were going to make some of your reporters -- we're all human beings. when you personally get attacked, it's hard to sort of set that aside. were you c

ripping "the washington post" and the "new york times." he called the "new york times" fake news. both these papers saying our subject ask descriptions and audience are up, not down. >> he's saying somebody should bite "new york times" and as owner of the "new york times" should tell them how to conduct journalism. howie: does a president have a right to hitback by what he thinks is unfair coverage? >> that's what he's doing. i share some of the concern julie is voicing. but what some of his supporters would say the "post" and others are not unbiased. they have an ideology. you may not like the phrasing. it may seem heavy hand for a president to say what they are saying. to point out these newspapers clearly have it in for them is legitimate. howie: up next. president trump and steve bannon are labeling the press the opposition party. ♪"all you need is love" plays my eyelove is finding a different angle. my eyelove is season 1, episode 1. my eyelove is making a story come alive. eyelove is all the things we love to do with our eyes. but it's also having a chat with your eye doctor

"the new york times," "washington post," new york post, put it out. read it buzzfeed was to do the quiz to see which harry potter house i would be sorted into. >> that's a silly attack on buzzfeed, they do a lot of politics and culture stuff in addition. >> i think there's a pet newsletter, too. >> there's also -- okay. whatever. phil, you said that there is a lot of outrage on the left about the jokes. >> even if it did, i'm sure most people like that about him. it >> i'm not so sure. >> know what he wants to admit that it helped him, a lot of guys were like he's one of us, he's a mess. think of it this way, if hillary had got caught saying i grab them by that package, she would have won in a landslide. bill would have voted for her. >> bill wouldn't have believed her. >> can we put this up, not long after the pressure, buzzfeed started selling pile of garbage t-shirts and bumper stickers with proceeds going to the committee to protect a journalist. figure i think at first they were in the people were calling them out on that. i thing that's happened.

former "new york times" editor says the paper believes it sets the agenda for america. later, the deaths of carrie fisher and debbie reynolds. it sparked angst on howie: the ex-movie editor of the "new york times" cast an unflattering light on his paper. he wrote reporters scrambled to match the narrative a year in advance. squaring the plan with editors, then write stories that fit the pre-designated line. editors said we set the agenda for the country in that room. what do you make of the media's emphasis on narrative. >> this one of the main problems we saw over the course of 2016. many in the media are pushing a narrative rather than reporting facts. frequently they get the narrative wrong. whether it's about donald trump being an unacceptable candidate or hillary clinton being an ideal candidate. this is how the media get their story across at the expense of actual facts. it's a good thing to do to provide context and analysis on a story and people are able to see those original forces. but now a lot of people can see the press conference. but you can't do that at t

we know that apple has said that they were approached by the regulator, who accused the new york timespp has been pulled. until we know exactly what rules we re until we know exactly what rules were violated, it is difficult to know, but certainly, apple is keen not to get on the wrong side of the regulators, they have complied with the requests, and certainly at this point they are not explaining what was the source of the concern. point they are not explaining what was the source of the concernlj point they are not explaining what was the source of the concern. i was quite surprised to hear that it was available in the first place, given that i know that the website had been banned, do we have distinctions between apps and websites with other news organisations? that is a peculiar part of it, for four years you have been able to access the new york times through the app but not through the website. whether or not what we are starting to see is the cyberspace and administration becoming more attuned to these distinctions... apple has had problems with content in the past, it's problem

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interesting that he talked about this after the fact with the "new york times." he didn't live tweet as he often the timesthat he didn't watch. >> tracie, we know many of trump's cabinet nominees will have confirmation hearings this week. could that slow this process down? >> they hope that it will, not clear that it will, though. is the concern there.ssions for many of these nominees ared ina of indiana's governor. >>> the nation's largest muslim civil rights organization says there's been an uptick in hate attacks against their it's been happening over the past few months foinitu to fend potential a cultural tour w them and didn't stop. for the country's development of nuclear missiles capital street. his mother says she justice.did it, even if you didn't mean to do it, you need to turn yourself in. services and robbing them. police say es didn't seedid? wo and they work ls colder.l, especially in it f at the wind. the wind is not very strong. it's only at 6 miles per hour. but it's making it feel a lot colder. so here is the feels like temperature. culpepper f

she was the columnist for the new york times, among many illustrious points in her career, and time at the end for questions. i want to start by saying this panel, i titled it, it is called dancing backwards and come from joe russell's house, don't know if you remember bill russell's house. he was in the nixon administration, and his wife was a policymaker and woman of some fluids. it occurred to me when i was 13 and going to getting school that -- dancing school, and what you have to dance backward all their lives. speaking about hillary clinton -- >> i knew we would get to hillary clinton. >> host: i want to start with journalism, you started in the early 70s, you have said you did not have to break down the walls, and a few years ahead of you have taken their backs's coronation style lands gotten in, started covering the connecticut state house. had to be mostly men. >> guest: she was sort of an and peculiar way, she didn't bond in the capital. the fact that she was there, did make a little more conscious. we are allowed to say four letter word which >> host: you are encouraged. >>

. >> the obama administration often leaked everything they needed to the "new york times." so it's no surprise the "new york times" would be on his side. howie: thanks very much for coming in on this holiday. happy new year for people choosing to spend their holiday with us. why are so many celebrities getting good coverage from blowing off the inauguration. howie: sean spicer, the incoming white house press secretary said the president will do press conference because they are part of the fabric of our country. >> maybe we do facebook town halls and input through twitter. howie: back by popular demand. the panel. susan, i'm glad to know the president will be doing press conference. but anything wrong with spicer saying we'll circumvent the media and use our media channels through facebook and twitter. >> it's a game change. i think other politicians will use this as a model. they needed us and feared us because that's how they get to voters and listeners. howie: the argument against it is, even with a facebook chat you can pick and choose which questions you are going to re

he called "the new york times"nt fake news, and he wrote this: somebody with aptitude and conviction e news and failing new york times and either one it correctly or let it fall with dignity. both napes saying, hey, our -- newspapers saying, hey, our subscription rates are up. >> the owner of "the new york times" how to conduct journalism.ect that's very dangerous when you are urging the owners of newspapers to put their own ideology as a stamp upon what should be fair and balanced journalism. howard: doesn't the president have a right to hit back by what he sees as unfair coverage? >> yeah, and that's what he's doing. i share some of the concern that julie's voicing, but also i think what trump and his supporters would say is the post and particularly the times are not unbiased. they do have an ideology. it's not just their editoriall page, it's their news page as well. so you might not like the phrasing and how it does seem heavy-handed, a president saying the things he's saying, but to the point out that these newspapers clearly have it in for him, i think, the legitimate. howard:

host: let me show you a tweet this morning taking aim at the new york times. donald trump saying, "somebody with aptitude and convictions should buy the fake news and telling new york times and running correctly or let it go with dignity." he has made himself available to them during the transition and during the campaign. guest: isn't that funny? i found this fascinating were donald trump is giving all kinds of access to the washington post to run him down and giving them all kinds of interviews or this negative donald trump book they published. they will run around out and say donald trump is having a war with the news media. yes, he is in a way. for many people, conservatives who did not necessarily backed the it was the best part of campaign. we have an arrogant liberal news media that needs to be taken down. hillary clinton was not giving access to the washington post. she was giving them 10 minutes here and there. then they would ask questions about what she would tell her granddaughter about her presidency. they were not even asking journalistic question

actually surprise me, frankly, most of what i read in the mainstream media, let's jusk with "the new york timesn post, a lot of taking things out of context. they even disregarded his own words, will take the words of our sources. i don't know how "the new york times" isn't just so embarrassed with themselves after this whole entire season, this election season has been horrible for them. >> tom: i think they are embarrassed but there doubling down. that is the source, they didn't have to reveal their source, it was that guy. he said it. they took me out of context. >> andy: you >> you can't be yoa source and then blame the source. i'm going to use that technique, i stand by my affair, but i'm apologizing for it. i'm sorry, some high-level sources ratted me out. i stand by the affair. >> tom: that's what they have to do, it's either stand by it or issue a retraction on some back page. >> i like how shortly after the election, when people realized what happened, there was all this talk about i guess the press are going to rethink the way they do things. as if it was going to be a period of intro

theacking investigation as the imvention of his political adversaries in an interview with the "new york times." at the same time john kerry telling me today the president-elect should be listening closely to his intelligence briefing. >> obviously it is going to be important that the president of the united states going forward has a clear understanding of the degree to which russia is engaged in this activity, and the threat that it poses to the united states of america. hopefully in today's meeting that will be made crystal clear to the president-elect. >> intelligence lessons, minutes from now, donald trump will be schooled by the nation's intelligence chiefs, the same team he has been trashing on twitter. >> i have never seen anything like this in my lifetime. the fact that the president-elect is tweeting on this issue and taking it to the public, this is just unheard of and unprecedented and i think we all have to be concerned about this. this is not the kind of bickering that ought to be going on in public. >> and grow up on this critical day of his prepresidency, donald trump goes on t

"new york times" investigation into kushner's real estate dealings with a chinese multi-billion-dollarcompany has sparked a new round of concern about the trump family's conflicts of interests. the "new york times" reports that in november 16, a week after the election kushner held , secret talks with the head of anbang insurance group, a chinese company and insurance group to negotiate the joint re-development of 666 fifth avenue, one of dozens of buildings kushner's family business owns. "the times goes report the meeting -- in washington, d.c., confirmation hearings for donald trump's cabinet nominees are slated to begin today. alabama senator jeff sessions will go before the senate judiciary committee to be considered for confirmation as attorney general. trump's pick has drawn widespread outrage because of sessions' opposition to the voting rights act, support for anti-immigration legislation and history of making racist comments, which included reportedly saying he thought the ku klux klan was "ok until i found out they smoked pot." sessions has also called the american civil lib

and if i could append something to that, your reaction in regard to the editor of "the new york times" saying the traditional standards of journalism in the context of this year election required suspension. that is to say there had to be somewhat more editorial judgment in the news reporting process. >> sure. that's a totally fair and legitimate question. and i think this campaign and the particular people who were running in this campaign, and not mincing words, donald trump did require taking fact checking from a sidebar situation and incorporating it into the main story. and i think that took some time, and it took some adjusting on our part. and i think it has some potential downside issues of going too far and sort of turning off. you want to make sure that to the extent possible, your readers are going to trust you. so when you use a word like "false," that seems to many to be okay, as long as you can demonstrably prove a statement is false. when you use a word like "lie," that to me feels like you're connoting intent and you're going further than you need to go, and you're not

>> the story in the "new york times" didn't offer a ton of historical context, but it's not unusual for new president to sweep out the prior ambassadors, although it's a little unforgiving not to keep the career diplomats who aren't political appointees. you don't want vacancies during the transition, but trump is not the first person to do this. >> when it comes to political appointees, you serve at the pleasure of the president, as we say. josh, in other transition news, you have really interesting reporting about a major clash right now going on between donald trump's defense secretary nominee james mattis and transition folks over who is going to be working with. what are you reporting? >> it's been over a month since mattis was named as defense secretary, and almost all of the top pentagon positions remain unfilled. it's because all of the people that the trump tower is sending to mattis, he is rejecting, okay, and it's part of their squaring off, right? will mattis get his own team, or will the white house have their people in there? that sets the stage for what could be turf batt

flo: it was a rocky weekend, according to "the new york times." reportedly a new president -- i can't even come back -- usually they are at the maximum peak of their leverage. according to "the new york times," trump through a this opportunity to buy picking a fight with the media by tweeting about the crowd size at his inauguration. he blamed the media for his rocky relationship with intelligence agencies in the u.s. "the new york times" is reporting this is being seen as a lack of discipline coming from president trump, even from senior members of his circle. genie: meanwhile, donald trump himself, the white house press secretary, and other top staffers are saying that friday's inauguration drew the largest audience ever. there is lots of evidence to the contrary. yes, and lots of out lets are calling trump and his team liars. .t is quite unusual, an on the left, you can see donald trump's inauguration. it is quite patchy, you could say. there are places where there are not as many people. on the right, there is a obama's first swearing-in ceremo

firstly, this is a very new york times front page, in a sense. moment. i think the picture, of course, perhaps is slightly embarrassing to trump, although nothing seems to be particularly sticking. the volume of these sorts of stories is such that you think, "maybe it's these sorts of stories is such that you think, "maybe its beginning..." it doesn't seem to, which is interesting. donald trump is also a businessman. russia and the luxury end of the russian market is incredibly valuable. it's lucrative. it shouldn't be a surprise that trump inc had been looking at moscow asa trump inc had been looking at moscow as a destination. i don't think that's a surprise. what is, though, concerning is this shadow, this hangover it's going to have over the presidency. we've already seen that his business interests are taking up lots of column inches. it's only matter of time before some of that mud might begin to stick. you see, but this article here about his popularity in a number of polls says that he's got the lowest poll ratings of any modern president

apple responded to the news with a written statement on its website. for some time now, the new york app has not been permitted to display content to most users in china, and we have been informed that the app is in violation of local regulations. the new york times protested apple's decision, but to no avail. human rights organizations often accuse u.s. media and computer companies of turning a blind eye to un-democratic practices when doing business in china. >> deutsche bank has agreed to pay the u.s. government and $95 million to resolve civil lawsuit. germany's biggest lender was accused of using a network of shell companies to evade taxes. prosecutors say the bank admitted guilt as part of the settlement. deutsche bank says it'd it is pleased to resolve the claim. deutsche bank agreed to pay 7.2 billion dollars to settle another u.s. government probe. if you have ever driven through germany, you would have seen the huge wind turbines peppered across the countryside, but i bet you have never seen anything quite like this. in the past four weeks, four of these giants have come tu

joining me now from washington is bob costa of "the washington post" and carl of "the new york times." i'm pleased to have both of them on this program. is there high anticipation because we're looking at a new president? we're looking at a congress that is controlled by republicans, as to how this whole thing might unfold? >> i think everybody is a little on edge, you know, on tippy toes trying to see and figure out how this is all going to play out. obviously the republicans got off to a terrible start in the house yesterday. and the democrats liked that a lot. that was encouraging to them. they're thinking well, maybe these guys can't handle it i mean everybody, you know, it's sort of like the boxers or maneuvering sort of checking each other out. but i think that it is going to be an extremely tumultuous time. the real business has started today. the republicans are moving forward on their plan to repeal obama care. at the same time they're also finding out this isn't going to be so easy to replace obama care. the democrats are drawing the line. they calm out with their new slogan

can see in the "the new york times" photo that -- there it is. you won't get it on the tv camera but there's absolutely no confusion when you look at it determining in "the new york times" photograph where the people actually are and where they are not. you can see in that photograph where people are and where they are not. you can see there's a thinner tn the 2009 photograph just above the nbc logo. you can see it thins out there a little bit, and then it thick uns on each side of it. the crowds show a massively bigger crowd during the obama inauguration than during the trump inauguration, and it shows vast empty spaces where there were no empty spaces before. and so i'm glad she suggested people look at "the new york times" for the evidence of that crowd, but, brian, i'm sure what you meant by unique is this is the first time in history that the first white house press briefing is about crowd size at the inauguration and disputes with all estimates of the crowd size not made by donald trump. >> it comes on a day, lawrence, we're engaging in it r

when he shifted to the new york times, we can -- he continued serving justice. he was very well sourced after the september 11 attacks to report on the bush administration, stepped up the spying operations. in 2006, he and another new york times reporter received a pulitzer prize for national rt

that is as morning from "the new york times equipped editorial board and eight read same it is more fake news and someone should buy the new york times. cassandra's next from columbia maryland, good morning. caller: good morning. i agree with the last caller. donald trump is a narcissist and he is a scary man. and if people listen to him, they will have heart attacks, strokes. he has got everybody afraid. afraid of what? been shoppingave since the beginning of time. this is their punishment over theirs, so i would advise people not to listen to him. thank you. host: thank you, cassandra. elizabeth warren went to boston logan at port yesterday to join in on the demonstrations involving those from seven nations not allowed into the u.s.. this is what it sounded like. [video clip] >> voices heard all around this world. >> we all want our voices heard all around this world. >> we have all heard about this order that president trump has given. >> we have all heard about this order that president trump has given. >> it is illegal. >> it is illegal. >> it is unconstitutional. >> it is unconstit

they ask me about it all the time, is there a future for the new york times? there is a future for that kind of media. beyond that, how twitter is going to become -- we have done all this weighing for 20 years now. the last we 10 crazily. nobody has found a way, providing content does not pay. they believe it will and they will invest in it but it hasn't happened. when the great moment comes that people figure out how to make content pay, we will know what it is going to look like but right now if i knew i would buy it. >> i don't know if you heard today, congressman priebus discussed moving the white house press office out of the white house. obviously that is a concern, the position of the press during this administration and people i see most vocal about it are people like dan rather and bill moyers who, thank god, are not quite retired. i am wondering whether there is any unity among the press to avoid going under and submitting to what are going to be efforts to divide and conquer? >> we were talking about the cnn reporter trying -- nobody else leapt up a

rukmini callimachi is a journalist from the new york times who specializes on terror organisations ands me live from new york. welcome to the programme. what is your assessment of the impact this will have on the countries affected? 0n the countries affected, it obviously bothers them, every one of these countries have people with business and other relationships with the united states. and, as we've seen in the last 48 hours, scientists have been barred from coming to the us. a research student that was going to harvard for a fellowship has been turned back. as far as the terror group is concerned, isis has not made any public announcements regarding this ban, however, channels that are run by isis supporters and by members of the terror group have been commenting on it since yesterday. they have shared the screen grabs of the actual executive order that was signed by the president, and the commentary they have engaged in goes like this — they say that this is the beginning of america's internal destruction, that this is, in an off itself, will lead to america being defeated. we heard

before the first presidential debate, magically in a "new york times" reporters mailbox his 1995 tax turns magically show up. now one day before his press conference. highly anticipated, this information is suddenly reported getting out when every news organization had it for months. i look to thursday to see what other surprise news event will be quoted. the "new york times" and other news organizations had this salacious dossier, did not publish it, and they made the right call, you do not put on the air anything you can't confirm. it's called journalism. after the break, martha maccallum on the challenge of covering the first 100 days of the new administration's policies. how report first 100 days is a crucial period. america's news room co-host martha maccallum is launching a new show at 7:00 p.m. eastern to chronicle those first 100 days. martha maccallum welcome. usually it's a slog with the president trying to push legislation through congress and get his nominees confirmed. why will this be a different story? martha: i think there is so much at stake where people are invested

before the first presidential debate, magically in a "new york times" reporters mailbox his 1995 tax s magically show up. now one day before his press conference. highly anticipated, this information is suddenly reported getting out when every news organization had it for months. i look to thursday to see what other surprise news event will be quoted. the "new york times" and other news organizations had this salacious dossier, did not publish it, and they made the right call, you do not put on the air anything you can't confirm. it's called journalism. after the break, martha maccallum on the challenge of covering the first 100 days of the new administration's policies.un [♪] to stay in control. i want to trim my a1c. when my schedule changes... i want something that delivers. (woman) ♪ tresiba ready... (avo) tresiba® is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. don't use tresiba® to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. don't share needles or insulin pens. don't reuse needles. the most commo

today's new york times, the optimism of barack obama.he national review is writing about obama's failed presidency. perspectives on our 44th president as he appears for his final week at the white house. on friday, barack obama will welcome donald trump for a theitional talking marking peaceful transition of power. the inauguration will take place on the u.s. capitol beginning at noon eastern time followed by the congressional luncheon and the inaugural parade on pennsylvania avenue. live coverage throughout the day friday. welcome to "washington journal" for this sunday morning, january 15. we want to begin with your perspective on the last eight years. what is the president's legacy? are you better off today than you were eight years ago? 0, that is our line for democrats. 202-748-8001 hour line for republicans. for independents, 202-748-8002. be sure to join us on twitter. or join usweet online at facebook.com/c-span. good sunday morning to you. thank you for being with us.a busy week in washington, d.c. inaugural coverage throughout

"new york times."his is all a thee it yat ri call play that is happening here. . they attack and give interviews wp they attack the press and cozy with the press. this is all a circus and theater. people should see that for what it is. it's politics absolutely unfeddered the way politics is without the fakery. so they are going to talk to "the new york times" throughout this administration. and so peter teal wants to communicate with the readers of "the new york times" so he talks to them. >> i joust wonder before we let you go. how some of these tech ceos are going to navigate being close to trump because of their business interest, as you just point out. while trying not to express public support because they don't agree with social policies or they are at odds. sgrt sies soft cushion of billions helps. i can tell you the employees are not happy about this cozying u. they see their leader walzing up to trump tower and kissing up to the president-elect. that's what a businessman would do, but people t

howie: the "new york times" called the speech an angry jeremiah. it was -- everybody is entitled to an opinion. but this was pretty much pinned. >> too many people moved immediately to how the speech was going to play inteafd what it said. think is an important reason why people need more diversity in newsrooms. that speech played differently to average americans. you have to have perspective from people who heard an inspiring call to unity. that's what they voted for and they said i'm going to do it. howie: chris matthews said it had hitlerian overtones because of the phrase "america first." this came up in the campaign. it has a different meaning from the pre-world war ii movement to keep this country out of the second world war. why go there and bring up something like hitler. >> i weren't agree with that language. but moll poll -- but molly is r. the press is reacting to this as establishment and alarmed by what the president is saying. one of the things the media has to do a better job of. we have opinion people and we have news people. the op

"new york times." he will be with us right after this break. >> this has been the privilege of my life and i know i speak for michelle as well and we look forward to continuing this journey with all of you and i can't wait to see what you do next and i promise you i'll be right there with you. all right? [ cheers and applause ] god bless you. >> president obama addressed service members at joint base andrews today for his final flight aboard a presidential aircraft bound for vacation in palm springs, california. vice president joe biden and his wife headed home to delaware directly after the inauguration service taking amtrak. biden's legendarily preferred mode of transportation throughout his senate career and vp term. >> hey, guys. back on amtrak! >>> all right. >>> all right. that is live coverage of the liberty ball where we expect the president and the first lady. i just told you about that report in the "new york times" that there was an active investigation in the "new york times." they ran that

"new york times." he will be with us right after this break. >> this has been the privilege of my life and i know i speak for michelle as well and we look forward to continuing this journey with all of you and i can't wait to see what you do next and i promise you i'll be right there with you. all right? [ cheers and applause ] god bless you. >> president obama addressed service members at jointase andrews today for his final ight aboard a presidential aircraft bound for vacation in palm springs, california. vice president joe biden and his wife headed home to delaware directly after the inauguration service taking amtrak. biden's legendarily preferred mode of transportation throughout his senate career and vp term. >> hey, guys. back on amtrak! we need to be ready for whatever weather may come our way. my name's scott strenfel and i'm a meteorologist at pg&e. we make sure that our crews as well as our customers are prepared to how weather may impact their energy. so every single day we're monitoring th

the "new york times" is disgusting. the good news is it's failing. it'll be out of business within three years. >> it is a failing newspaper. bad people. bad people. sick people. >> there's something happening. they're not reporting. katie, you're not reporting it it, katie. but there's something happening, katie. there's something happening, katie. i don't respect her. i don't think she's very good. highly overrated. she gets out and starts asking me all sorts of ridiculous questions. and, you know, you could see there was blood coming out of her eyes, blood coming out of her -- wherever. >> so, there's nowhere lower to go than this, frank. i keep thinking of that guy that was weird enough or naive enough to go on the golf course down there so that trump could throw him off the golf course. is trump going to throw the media out in the press room if they disturb him? i mean, if there is sort of a aspect to this. >> absolutely. and that reel was great because it showed all the things he's done and is doing that go beyond what other politicians who hav

me here in new york, kathleen carol, the outgoing executive editor of the associated press, head of npr and carol ryan, senior editor for politics running trump coverage of "the new york times." kathleen, first, congratulations are in order. this is your first day as the former editor of the "a.p." how do you feel? >> rested. >> so you can be completely honest with us now. the biggest media screw-ups of the past year? >> well, i think probably there was a lot of huberous more in the discussion of what happened after trump was elected than in the coverage beforehand. i know there was coverage as the medium is the story and the medium is that story. i think anybody who wanted to could find great coverage of the candidates and of the issues that were royaling people in the united states and around the country. but i think afterwards there was this idea that the media should have predicted what was going to happen and it's not our job and i think the media discussion around what we should have done is just wrong-headed. >> i think one thing that that raises for me is we had all kinds of content. the content was voluminous. the voices from people out in battleground states, the

he goes after the "new york times" -- i mean, the family "new york times" almost daily. went into that meeting with the "new york times," the edi r editori editorialist, something kbs on. >> a sports executive one time was having trouble with a sportswriter. >> was it you? >> no. i said call him up and ask him for his advice and he'll be on your side forever. i'm not saying that's going to happen. but of all the papal visits, the one i would like to be in on is the one between trump and graydon carter. trump is partly fiction and partly contradiction. he ran as an outsider but he wants to run with the cool kid, too. >> and graydon carter is the cool kids. >> he wants this be to camelot. he doesn't want to beg big stars to come and perform at his inauguration. there's part of him that wants this to be jack and jackie in the 1960s. i believe that. >> do you agree? >> sure. i also think he likes to expend time neutralizing critics. asks for advise and engages them so they ratchet it back a little bit. you could see from the "new york times" meeting -- i was struck by it. it