frank rich attacked us in the "new york times" saying we only had three black speakers.ly he didn't watch the event or is doing sloppy research because we had three prominent african-american speaker, including mayor booker. it's been a tremendous response from middle america who think we need to work together, like the vice president said. >> what about devil's advocate time here? why don't we recognize that politics is not a dirty game, that people have deemly held ideological views and differences and look at the republican party. it's become more conservative because a lot of republicans thought, and even independents, that it got away from basic principles. >> well, sure. but, as we've been saying for two years on our show, this is still james madison's constitution. you have frank rich on the left, enraged by what mark is doing, rush limbaugh on the right, enraged. they have the luxury of never actually governing, never being a president, never being a senator, never being in congress, realizing that you actually have to, at the end of the day, sit down and deal wi