i'd like to thank mary mcdonagh murphy, who joined us from new york via skype, and john -- john is actually a descendant of the first chief justice of the u.s. supreme court. paulette frankl, "lust for justice," tony serra, and sheldon siegal. so before we take a break, i do have a surprise. a few years ago, i guess six or seven years ago, i met an amazing artist. i was visiting his home. and he had created this wonderful sculpture. i immediately recognized it as being clarence. it turned out that he had created a number of just amazing sculptures of trial lawyers. and he went on to do one of clara fults, the first woman attorney in california and became the leader of the public defender movement. and just by happenstance, he called me and had this idea of encapsulating one of the greatest trial attorneys of our times. so, bill? is he here? this is not a magistrate. [laughing] -- not a magic trick. >> i've never met tony serra, so i have to make use of the internet to get a sense of who he was and the imagery. what clearly came over was his passion for justice. and in some cases almost a ra

he's with me from west chester new york via skype. let me ask you this, are you going to buy?don't buy these things. i'm invested enough in technology because of my job. i suppose if i bought the shares, too, i'd be bad diversification for me. >> all right. let me ask you about the story then in itself. the day after this goes public and you log into facebook, what's going to be so different? >> well, if anything, nothing will be different. i mean, in some sense the minute you go public, the minute you kind of sell your company, then you're kind of set in stone. in some ways i'm less worried about what changes rather than the fact that it might stay the same. this is the formula. their shareholders and investors are going to demand they keep this up. it's sort of like when a rock group has a big hit. the record company says, okay, do another one just like that. >> you actually point that out in your column. you say the more money a company takes in, the more it has to play by the, quote, rules of money. you actually use google as a good example. >> right. i mean, google, you k

. >> we have a valentine's day question from pam in new york joining us via skype. early valentine's day, pam. >> thank you, you, too. >> hi, pam! >> what's your question? >> i'm looking for healthy chocolate or treat ideas for gifts for valentine's day. do you have fun suggestions? >> i was so excited when i heard you would ask the question. i get to show off my gift for my "today" show valentine al roker. >> ooh! >> i call this chocolate trail mix. it took me hours, al. but it's so simple. >> i'm not listening. >> you will layer healthy chocolate treats. i have dark chocolate trips, cocoa dusted almond, chocolate cereal. and we have whole grain pretzels covered in dark chocolate. this is the 365 brand. happy valentine's day, al! >> thank you. it's already open. >> but uneaten. >> so there's a great idea, pam. >> there are so many other ingredients you can play with. if your recipient loves caffeine you can have dark chocolate espresso beans and i found dark chocolate covered pomegranate seeds, cherries, kcashews. >> you have been busy. now from hillary in boston.

so we have here via skype, she's live from new york city. i always wanted to say that. [laughter] >> and mary is the author of a book about "to kill a mockingbird" that a she wrote last year, "scout, atticus and boo," and she's directed and produced a film about "to kill a mockingbird." we're going to watch a clip from that in just a moment. next, we have john j. osborn. if you went to law school, the one book you would have read before going to law school was "the paper chase," and this is a book that john j. osborn wrote. has really become a classic. and it, of course, spawned an oscar-award winning film, same name, and also a television series. he's also written an incredible article about "to kill a mockingbird," so we're going to ask him about that. next we have paulette frankl. and paulette is a courtroom sketch artist. now, how cool is that? that's a pretty cool job, and she spends a lot of time in the courtroom and that's how she came across tony serra. and she spent 17 years, 17 years compiling the incredible book that she's put together that just came out and

new york's long island. >> and passion and determination and lived her life that way. >> nbc's news correspondent richard engel joins us live via skype the border with turkey and syria. thank you so much for joining us here. you know the conversations happening within members of congress in the states about arming the rebels in syria. they are making a comparison to what we saw in libya to what's happening in syria. is that fair and accurate to do that? >> it is a very different conflict. in libya, in many ways libya didn't matter. it's an oil-rich country with a tiny population, just 6 million people surrounded by desert practically on the mediterranean. and this is a country that has deep international ties. it is connected to iran. it is connected to hezbollah. there is an ethnic division within the country with a shiite minority ruling the country and a sunni majority trying to under seat the government. so a very different dynamic, much more complicated. there was a belief that a quick intervention in libya would betom the government and that a new regime would come in even libya, which is far more simple than syria, has proven

a syrian man who left new york to join his fellow syrians now joining us via skype. he's at a refugee camp on the turkish syrian border. first of all, explain to us how it is that you leave brooklyn and your family in brooklyn and now try to head to syria, essentially putting your life on the line? >> hi. actually my family, they are not in brooklyn. they we they are in homs. i decided to leave brooklyn to join my family to die with them, because it might be the last chance for me to join them. >> you say your family is in homs in syria. have you had a chance to talk to them? do they know that you are trying to cross the border and head in their direction? >> no. i tried so hard to get contact with them, but i couldn't. >> and how did you make it to the turkish border? what is your plan? how do you plan on trying to actually reach your family? >> actually, after i heard the news every day without taking any part of it, so i decided to leave. as long as i know that my name has been blacklisted at the damascus airport, i thought it could be safe or possible for me to g