the new yorker magazine, you can get more cosmopolitan than the new yorker magazine, there was coverage, ou recall, once obama was elected that it was quite scandalous. obama was dressed some kind of middle eastern and michelle obama was fatigue, a military carrying a rifle with her hand sort of r in a fist, black panther gesture. i don't know if you recall this. i recall it. but i remember that they had journal.that on the and the reaction, i don't believe they published it, but reaction was, as you would expect from members of the media people who had voted for the obama administration, they were up in it.s about it was scandalous, how dare you the omething like that on cover of the new yorker magazine. new yorker he magazine apologized left and right, up and down. i believe they didn't go through with that cover. to 2017, i don't seen in my life hell-bent on thrashing this administration as it has. members of cnn themselves go not live levision or on television, but, you know -- host: got you. got you. president's the head hanging from her hand and cnn gets -- she is a associate, she

how do new yorkers feel about this? >> the subway is in crisis. constant delays, electrical breakdowns, single problems. on top of that, some are held together by zip ties. the governor cuomo has declared a state of emergency a mayor diblasio stepping it up and calling for a millionaire's tax to help fix the subway system. >> that is why today i'm calling on albany to pass a millionaire's tax to support the mta. >> according to the plan, about 1% of new yorkers living in the five boroughs would be affected. if you're making about a million dollars, you pay $2700 more annually in taxes. i ask new yorkers how they felt about this. >> they need someone, the money is coming from someone else. >> the rich so it shouldn't be a problem. i think it goes towards helping the subway and making things better to those weren't rich. >> i be willing to chip in. >> are you rich? >> i'm not rich but the other have a fix in the subway are below poverty level and our metro cars. so if you could get regular people. >> let's bring in our panel. welcome to chasing news

. >> which i can say came from the fame interview with the new yorker. you will remember when scaramucci was brought in, sean spicer said he was leaving. get rid of scaramucci, despite all the turn over, president said everything is going great, before news of his firing he tweeted, let be honest, highest stock market ever, unemployment lowest 17 year, wages rising, no white house chaos, then the president wrote a great day at the white house. ok. during today's white house briefing sarah hackabee-sanders also tried to down play the scaramucci as well as some of the other staff shake-ups >> what matters most to us is not who's employed in the white house but the rest of the crown we're focused on the president's said it before if we want to see chaos come to my house with three preschoolers. >> as you can imagine the internet didn't waste any time. these are some of the tweets. there's great creativity out there. the transcribe has spoken, the new york post put out the white house white house coverage. we saw that one going out. by the way i loved the had

joining us is jane mayor, staff writer for the new yorker. reclusive hedge-funneled tycoon behind the trump presidency" was an incredible piece of reporting that i'm sure put you on the mercer family christmas list forever. jane, thank you very much for being with us tonight. i really appreciate your time. >> glad to be with you. >> from what you understand about the mercer family and their intentions, why they funded trump to the degree that they did, why they facilitated the movement of steve bannon and kellyanne conway over to the campaign, why they supported breitbart all these years, given all -- your understanding of all those things, do you have a sense of what their role will be now that bannon is out? >> well, first of all, what their intentions were in the campaign was bob merser is a kind of, as you say, very reclusive cookie political conspiracy theorist who was driven by hay dread of hatred. he really believed that clintons murdered people and susceptible to right-wing cookie theories. and so when he, you know, at this particular

this is an away why the cuts met with great anger from any new yorkers. in some ways the crisis destabilized the world of liberal left politics in the city. many activist had been fierce critics of a racial economic inequities within the public sector prior to the crisis. when it arrives, these organizations and movements that had been critical of the city's public institutions suddenly found themselves scrambling to defend their existence. one bronx community activist who had been involved in protesting for better services at the hospital in the bronx, calling them at one point totally inadequate, responded with a shock when the decision is made to shutter the facility in 1976 saying, if we lose it, we will lose all chances of a new one. once you close a institution, it is over. the crisis -- that is felix on the left, right next to governor hugh carey. that slide should have come earlier. but you can still see the image. the crisis laid bare a variety of tensions within the system. the whole question of who could access education and culture, knowledge

after the new yorker imbroglio, the president was fielding calls all weekend recommending scaramucci do the fandango out the door. the president was happy when general kelly told him what he wanted to do because that's what the president wanted to do too. one of our favorite office games, there a tweet for that? is there something in the at real donald trump twitter archives criticize as rival for something the president just did? and yes we have a winner from february 2016. quote wow is ted cruz very disloyal to his very capable director of communication. he used him as a scapegoat, fired like a dog. ted panicked. scaramucci firmly holds the record for shortest tenure with a kardashian like marriage. but it's not the first high profile exit from the white house. it took a few days before the rupert murdoch owned "new york post" which on friday had depicted the trump white house as the show "survivor." they were forced to update its cover with two more now voted off the island, reince and mooch. the trump tribe has spoken. jim, showing scaramucci the door was high on to do list for g

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experts interviewed by the new yorker strongly suggesting that he may have legal concerns that followom that job that he just quit. the chief execer officer of george w. bush saying he's walking into possible criminal charges. quote, he cited a federal statute that makes it illegal for executive branch employees to work on me matter in which they may have a direct financial interest. the president and the vice president are exempted from that statute unpaid white house advisers like karl icahn are not exce exempted from it. quote, if i were karld icahn's private lawyer, i would tell him he should not have accepted that preshl adviser title. consider that advice taken retro actively. this is the defense. this sin credible. the white house and karl icahn are now pretending that never happen. that he was never appointed to anything in the trump administration. he never had that title. honestly this is their defense. the white house tells the new yorker that karl icahn never had a quote formal appointment or title after inauguration day. never had it. they're saying this never happened. p

since fired after an interview with the new yorker magazine on thursday. this is what the white house had to say about why he was ousted. >> the president certainly felt that anthony's comments were inappropriate for a person in that position, and he didn't want to burden general kelly also with that line of succession. as i think we've made clear a few times. >> so president trump thought that some vulgar comments were inappropriate. >> grab him by the [ bleep ]. >> this evening a senior administration official told me that even before general kelly made his move this morning, president trump had soured on scaramucci. the president loved him as a fighter in the first few days of his tenure, i'm told, but the president came to dislike how the son of long island in the president's view portrayed their relationship as closer than it was. the president didn't like how scaramucci loved the limelight, i'm told. after the new yorker interview, the president was fielding calls all weekend from friends and advisers recommending that scaramucci did the fandango out

as a native new yorker neighbo s part of the landscape. he wants to live in that area it comes with the territory. it's a concret jungle. the sky was guaranteed a certain apartment which window had been as noisy. he got a different apartment from what he signed on his lease. i want to be clear about that. >> i'm sure will come out in court, he signed specifically for a specific unit? >> yes. >> honestly, if it was a bait and switch, he's right and he ought to sue. >> new york either breaks or makes you. if you don't like the noise had back to the suburbs. >> if it's in the heat get out of hell's kitchen. >> by one pick one is back starting at 1299 at olive garden. c can enjoy family time one more time. >> why, in the city of thousands of great restaurants, of all types, even cheap restaurants what a human being choose to eat at a place like the olive garden. >> what part of human psychology compels us to seek out the bland, mundane and boring. even when were on vacation in the greatest city in the world. >> the olive garden and why people

moments before that was published tonight at the new yorker's website, carl icahn resigned. is that resignation by carl icahn is standalone carl icahn corruption story or is his resignation tonight tied in any way to the steve bannon departure today? also, who else is leaving the administration right away, either to just take advantage of the smoke screen tied to bannon or now that bannon is gone they don't have any political means of staying? number three, erik prince, the billionaire brother of betsy devos and founder of blackwater, politico.com reports that that big meeting on afghanistan today, the supposed reason mike pence had to fly home early from his overseas trip, politico now reports that erik prince, the blackwater guy, was due to be at that afghanistan meeting in person today at camp david to pitch his idea in person that the trump administration should pay him $10 billion a year to run the afghanistan war from here on out as erik prince's own for-profit private enterprise instead of something being run by the u.s. military. according to this new reporting tonig

they're both new yorkers.l icahn at one point even bailed out trump entertainment, which was the holding company for the to mohawk casino and other properties -- tosh mohawk casino and other properties. they had an interesting personal and professional relationship. during the presidential campaign, carl icahn was an early public supporter of donald trump. connect lee had a title in the campaign as a formal advisor to the trump campaign on a number of different regulatory and financial issues. at one point, donald trump even mention he would consider carl icahn to be treasury secretary. 2016 in the heat of the campaign, carl icahn wrote a letter to the obama environmental protection agency demanding that that agency change this obscure rule governing the renewable fuel standard. it was a bush era law that requires will refineries to blend certain amounts of ethanol, mainly made from corn, so folks can put it in their cars and boats and other things. carl icahn saw himself disadvantaged other way the rule was w

in 1962 i read the new yorker piece he wrote which became part of fire next time. asked if i could do a photo essay with him. through the month of january '63 we travelled from harlem, mississippi, new orleans. it was an adventure for me being a new yorker who had no experience with the south it was amazing. i was just amazed by his intellect. i was amazed by his love. there is a picture in which he is holding an abandoned child. just the feelings he had for people were so strong and just his ability to talk with leaders and the importance he had behind the scenes was really important in terms of the whole movement. >> because it is my show i get a chance to show you pictures and highlights. we will identify about six of these to get you to tell me about. tell me more about the experience this young white guy who had not been in the south, what did you see? what did you experience? how did you process all of it? >> i came into jackson, mississippi. i had the longest hair and leather jacket. he took one look and pulled me into the barbershop and told them to give me

i didn't know much about the "new yorker" when i was a kid, i had one cousin who took the "new yorker", and she was considered rather strange. i definitely backed into journalism, i think most people of my era backed into journalism because they didn't want to go to law school or they were trying to write a novel and couldn't figure out how to do it. i knew i wasn't going to do anything that required manual dexterity or mathematics skills. i've always said that mathematics was my worst subject, i was never able to persuade the teacher that many of my answers were meant ironically. i took a writing course in college that had those usual mottos, like, like "show, don't tell" all that sort of thing, and one of them was," individualize by specific detail". i thought that was the most useful one, particularly in attempts at humor. humor is sort of indefensible if the-- if the woman in the second row doesn't laugh, it isn't funny. that's one reason there's no way to sort of try to imagine your audience when you're writing, i think you could only satisfy yourself. my wife alice, who died in

new yorker printed portions of the interview last week. since then, scaramucci was fired. and reince priebus retired as chief of staff. off the record in spirit. >>> owner of dunkin donut in new york city will apologize in person to two police officers who say they were denied service at his franchise. the officers were in plain clothes, but had badges and pistol on belt. they say the clerk at the counter ignored them. took customers in line behind them and reportedly said i don't serve cops. the mayor condemned the incident. >> i don't know the details and i wasn't there. if it's what you described, it's someone being stupid and unfair to our police officers. >> the owner did call one of the police officers to apologize. he now wants to meet with boat both of them in person to make amends. company has not said if the worker will face any sort of discipline. >>> two universities on the top ten list that could distress the parents of the students that attend the school. >>> university of delaware ranked number six in the latest top party schools in the country. lehigh valley

howie: the black and white word versus the audio the "new yorker" released.u listen to this it sound less like an unhinged rant than the words suggest in the transcript. joe: it does, but it's terrifying to people like me. that's the most of dangerous thing you can do with a reporter, get into a banter with them, friendly banter is going back and forth, that's when you relax. howie: you said i probably have done this and reporters could have sabotage me and they did not. joe: that's how dangerous it is. every time you talk to reporters you realized you are on the record unless you have said you are not. lizza is great at getting into a kind of banter with them and it does look different on paper. howie: have you had considerations like this with sources, maybe not as x-rated. where they are expecting you not to report it? ellison: if i'm having a conversation and there is a question whether it's on the record. you need to make sure i have agreed and both parties have agreed to it being off the record. most of people in his position or you knew at the time tha

mainstream media pushes the idea it's big business that the country's new moral compass weeklies new yorkers whether they want to be inspired by corporations. and out there it's two pm here in the russian capital and you're watching r.t. international with me and karen good to have you with us. with the u.s. banks coalition forces advancing against islamic state in the iraqi city of tel afar thousands of civilians are being displaced they said they're forced to flee from both coalition bombs and the threat posed by the terrorists. we were in from the shelling from the coalition we lift the people from islamic state along. with. our children a sick we're stranded here without saying there is no fresh water anymore some of the aid workers have been here but very few of them this is my son he is suffering we have no electricity. how far is the latest objective in the u.s. backed war on islamic state that comes after the recapture of mosul following a nine month campaign that left much of the city in ruins however the operation to liberate how the fall which has been under i still control for th

what he is is a new yorker in this sense standing in front of a lot of new yorkers, they laughed. >>> the former police chief of philadelphia says he had a lot of concerns about what the president had said. >> yeah, i just -- forget -- forget this particular issue. all across the board, and this is again gets to one of the appeals of the president. political correctness has gone so far overboard. you have no idea how many people stop and tell me that we're fed up with this, we've come a humorless country, this is all about correctness and i think this is one small example. >> okay, many within the republican party that may not like the president's behavior or character they rational lice his support for him because they put a supreme court judge on the spot. thought's exercise to trump's immediate offender. if trump was to sexually assault a woman in the oval office would you still justify your vote that neil gorsuch's appointment to the supreme court made it that far -- how far is too far? >> well, i don't know. bill clinton certainly did do this in the oval office. >> we're talk

the new yorker was published on thursday afternoon.uy him that evening, over the weekendfire. john kelly was the one who said we cannot have this guy in the white house. he needs to go. so far, john kelly has the authority and has been given the authority to make these sweeping decisions. it was said he would report directly to the president. there are almost all the president. there are almost all the net realities. donald trump said it has been a great day. —— alternate. is this chaos orjust the appearance of chaos? it is true the government is still functioning and things are still happening. some would argue really important policy decisions are still happening, like a new effort to repeal obamacare, a tax reform going through, that is important, but you cannotjust look at the numbers. look at how many people have been changed around. you cannot say it is not chaotic. if this was a business, as donald trump likes to boast about, the company would say the chief operating officer has been changed after less than six months and the he

as a new yorker, he is an embarrassment. i have a total lack of confidence in him as the president. as a businessman, we know his track record. i believe hiring general john kelly may help. it all depends on how receptive president trump is, donald trump , on being guided by someone who has experience in the field. as someone who used to live in westchester, i know that he is a tax dodger, and that his businesses all went bankrupt. he inherited his money. when people say he is a businessman, well -- a businessman would not allow for casinos going belly up and walking away with money. hurting all the people who gave him the money. reconsiderould you your opinion of the president if you were to accomplish one of your priorities, and what would that be? caller: my priority would be that we clear up this whole specter of the russian involvement. i know that we get involved in other people's politics, but not to this extent. i am a baby boomer, and i just retired when you're go. we all grew up under that specter of a nuclear attack. this is not something -- i can -- i can remember what t

from the beginning, he was all in, then the profanity laced interview with the new yorker, one thing after another just piled up. the second part as you mentioned general kelly, this was served up to him on a platter. what better way for general kelly on day one, our one practically this morning, to say there is a new sheriff here, we are turning the page. scaramucci, basically with all the antics and the rest, he made it quite easy for the new chief of staff to say, here is somebody i can throw aside. some of the other folks inside the white house, ivanka trump, jared kushner, and others, they wanted to see reince priebus go. for them, anthony scaramucci took care of business, got reince priebus out, got sean spicer out, and all you have general kelly, hopefully starting a whole new chapter for their father and father-in-law. >> jesse: maybe this is all an elaborate plan to bring in scaramucci. we will go around the table. kimberly guilfoyle. >> kimberly: i was listening to the press conference earlier with sarah sanders and then the press release. there was also a statement earlier

looked at his comments to the new yorker magazine look at his comments to the new yorker magazine wheree house chief of staff, reince priebus is a paranoid schizophrenic. and of the chief strategist of donald trump, i am not trying to build my own brand on the strength of the president, i am here to serve the country. but as it turned out, not for much longer, the victim of a vicious political culture he had spoken out to the bbc. one of the things i cannot stand about this town is the backstabbing that goes on here, where right grow up, in my neighbourhood, we are front—stabbers. this is the man who helped to wield the night, the new chief of staffjohn kelly, the first retired general in the post since the nixon administration. his task is to bring order to the white house. as i think we have made clear a number of times over the last couple of days to several of you individually, of you individually, general kelly has the full authority to operate within the white house and all staff will report to him. president trump has nothing but praise for generaljohn kelly but friends say the g

david graham is a staff writer for the "new yorker" magazine. he spent years researching what he calls one of the most sinister crimes in all of american history. the new book is called "killers of the flower moon." we're glad you joined us. a conversation with david graham in just a moment. >>> so please welcome joining us david grand to this program. he is with "the new yorker" magazine. he spent years researching the latest book called "killers of the flower moon: the osage murders and the birth of the fbi". the film add aptation is already in the working with de niro, dicaprio, rumored tore considered. honored to have you on the program. do you care to confirm or deny those rumors? >> i will not deny -- nor confirm. >> you don't have to confirm or deny. we are read the trays. for those not following the story about this book, before this thing even came out, the bennie -- i'm going to embarrass you. the bidding war we were told went over $5 million just for the rights to do the film. and those names a missed a moment ago and give you an indic

drenching new yorkers during the morning commute. turning stairs into waterfalls. northwest of the city, a water spout on lake erie. >> lightning all around, my hands are shaking. >> reporter: east of cleveland, a mother killed when a tree fell on her suv. and east of salt lake city -- >> sending medical, teenagers struck by lightning. >> reporter: in all, three children hit. two in critical condition. dangerous storms striking across the country in the last 24 hours. >> all of a sudden there was heavy hail and wind and things started coming out of the trees. >> reporter: in baltimore county, maryland, a 14-year-old girl also lost her life when a tree hit this car. in chicago, concertgoers forced to evacuate. >> the weather is too crazy for us to play right now. >> reporter: torrential rain causing flash flooding in los angeles county. >> look how close they are to those wires and those trees. >> reporter: multiple air rescues and some 200 passengers stranded for a time on this commuter train. monsoon storms in the phoenix area snapping trees and power lines. air t

of days, as scaramucci went out and repeatedly undermined him, most outrageously so with that "new yorker interview. there were people close to the president urging previous -- reince priebus to take a stand, saying he needed to fire scaramucci for that interview. one person close to the president even said to me that what reince priebus needed to do was to call scaramucci into his office and fire him himself, and have the secret service take away his credentials and escort him out of the building to force the issue. scaramucci meeting clear on day one that he was reporting directly to the president, and it seemed reince priebus was simply unwilling to force the take a stand. that's why ultimately a president decided today was the day to push them out. charlie: it's interesting that reince pubis -- reince priebus e who admire him, but they did not rush to his defense. certainly not within the white house. this stuck with me, being at the white house all week, seeing the way he was undermined it first , more subtly, then finally with that "new yorker" interview. there was nobody in the whi

for your analysis, i offer this quote from steve bannon in the new yorker.he real goal for many years and especially since he took over trump's operation has been to defeat the republican party. quote, if trump wins it dhachan everything because the republican party will never go back to what it once was. >> if you want me to refer to the joker in the white house, obviously, president trump thrives on chaos. he keeps everyone off balance. he himself is off balance. we never know what he's going to do next. for bannon, or mr. bannon has trump refers to him now, living on thin ice is the way he likes to live. he survives. he keeps going. putting out that this is off the record is kind of preposterous because no conversation with a reporter, much less one you don't know is off the record. reporters say to other reporters at dinner, wait, this is off the record. this is not the case. by doing this he's drawing fire. trump, that's the excuse for president trump that ever more p p preposterous tweets take away from the one before. >> are we allowed to go off the r

new yorkers are no strangers to the crippling effects of a major storm. this october marks five years since superstorm sandy rolled through the city. developing now.. people in clovis, new mexico, are shaken up this morning .. after a deadly shooting inside a public library. witnesses say a man walked in yesterday afternoon, and started firing shots. he fatally shot two women, and wounded four other people. one of the witnesses spoke to reporters about how he was able to escape. police quickly arrived, and the shooter surrendered. there's still no shooter surrendered. there's still no word on a motive, or if the gunman had any connection to his victims. another story developing at this hour.. the expulsion of 18 american university students. they were allegedly involved in an underground group that the school has banned for years. jay korff has more. a rare world war two b-17 bomber is touring the country.. and it's area. the plane is named the "madras maiden." abc-seven's tim barber got a chance to ride in it. he is far lighter than the plane's original c

no one called the new yorker magazine to swear about it.ad, trump's political appointees are recruiting staff to sue universities over affirmative action to benefit white or asian applicants instead of minorities. the doj says it will neither confirm or deny any ongoing investigation on this issue. the supreme court has weighed in upholding narrow affirmative programs as lawful. it's not clear how far the plan will go but it could produce new cases that will narrow it even further. when you look at this report, what does it say to you about the trump administration's approach to affirmative action and diversity programs? >> i think it was a tall sign they were asking for employees to come join the political front office of the civil rights division to engage in this work. there already are a number of career lawyers at the civil rights division who day in and day out are enforcing our anti-discrimination laws to ensure there's equal opportunity for all students in this country. i think it was an odd move to move that into a political front

if you're not a new yorker feel blessed because new yorkers are in the middle of what's being called the summer of hell commuters are experiencing huge delays on the subway because of construction go figure they're miserable and one brewery is more than happy to cash in on that misery let's set the scene for you here bluepoint brewery president todd ashman along with his. master alongside of many others were waiting for a delayed train at penn station amtrak officials are working on a massive reconstruction plan that's going to last in the city at least through labor day now while others complained ashman here saw an opportunity he said he wanted to create a beer that reflected what riders feel as they wait for those delayed trains so he and his brew master came up with a bitter brew to match the bitterness that comes along with public transit making you late the pilsner the can is even designed to look like a railroad schedule board bluepoint brewery plans to sell the beer at penn station where ashman is positive people will have time while they wait for a drink a one beer delay may

jane mayer, staff writer for "the new yorker."lly appreciate your time. >> gr >> glad to be with you. >> in weeks ahead when i am here again on a friday night when i'm expecting it to be sleepy and stuff is as crazy as it has been, you will be able to look back at this night and say, you know what, jane mayer said the night they fired steve bannon that things were going to get less coherent from here on out. let's just stick a pin in that. we will need to come back to that in the future. less coherence coming up. stay with us. but if that's not enough, we offer our price match guarantee too. and if that's not enough... we should move. our home team will help you every step of the way. still not enough? it's smaller than i'd like. we'll help you finance your dream home. it's perfect. oh, was this built on an ancient burial ground? okay... then we'll have her cleanse you house of evil spirits. we'll do anything, (spiritual chatter) seriously anything to help you get your home. ally. do it right. when i was too busy with the kids to

new excerpts from former communication director anthony scaramucci's vulgar interview with the new yorker to confirm it. scaramucci was referring pence's decision to appoint a political operative named nick ayers as the new chief of staff. he told the new yorker, "why do you think nick's there, bro, are you stupid? why is nick there? nick is there to protect the vice president, because the vice president can't believe what the [ bleep ] is going on." [ light laughter ] oh, he can't? mike pence can't believe it. did you not hear about the "access hollywood" tape or the trump university fraud lawsuit or calling mexicans rapists or the russian intanglments. mike pence knows exactly what's going on. he agreed to play back-up quarterback to a guy with two bad knees who only throws interceptions. bull[ bleep ] mike pence can't believe it! [ cheers and applause ] sorry. just i haven't -- i haven't slept since november. this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: we'll be right back with howie mandel, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: for of seth's "closer l

we we have this audio of scaramucci's shocking late-fliglate-night phone call with "new yorker" journalist when scaramucci unleashed this blistering and bleep-filled rant launching attacks on key members of trump world, a la reince priebus and steve bannon. >> who leaked that to you. >> oh, man, i can't tell you that. i can't tell you that. >> okay i'm just going to -- what i'm going to do is i will eliminate everybody in the coms team and we'll start over. it's no problem. that's all. so, i asked these guys not to leak anything and they can't help themselves so we'll eliminate everybody. so somebody in the coms team leaked that to you? okay, but you're an american citizen. this is a major catastrophe for the american country, so i'm asking you as an american patriot to give me a sense of the leak. >> the one thing i can tell you is it's two people in the white house who i know wouldn't lie to me, you know what i mean? >> who? >> i can't tell you, buddy. you know i can't do that. >> so you can give me -- is it an assistant to the -- >> if you told me something -- >> is it assistant to the

new yorker, a new yorker who had been sat on and pent up just been ready to burst and he did burst.. he let it fly being called a racist and about the people in his administration being called a racist. from the mother of the woman who was killed, so despite all the rhetoric that he was, he was defending the wrong people and in fact the mother of the woman who was killed said that he did a good job what he said yesterday. he was, it was just no-holds-barred. he went for it. >> he really did. you know, for 10, 20, 30ç years in washington conservatives and republicans get, they get cowed into a corner every time liberals or democrats accuse them of being racists. there is no evidence of it whatsoever. just use the word. david: right. >> they run away. >> that is, charlie, just as incendiary calling somebody a communist in the 1950s. has the same effect. >> absolutely, absolutely. for the first time in my years covering politics in washington, here is a guy who is going to stand up say, no, screw you, you're wrong. i'm not. and he takes it back to them. that is why america despises th

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