he was a loyalist in 1776, so he's a great new yorker. at everything that he did and it's very sad that he passed away. and what's also interesting is that the rhinelander family are still around in new york and their rhinelander is up in massachusetts as well. and i've met of them and when i saw i've been doing research on your family and they go, oh, have you? they were patriots in the revolution and i'm oh are they. so it's but interesting to me to see how family tradition evolves changes over time. so i was talking to this person when i was at the massachusetts historical and this is very interesting hearing the heartache on her family history. and i was explaining to her, well, i find about frederick and his brothers and father, but it changed. but he adopted to life in new york, partly maybe because of the easy political methods that were implemented and people just kind of i think they just moved on. well, this question follows on. i was thinking about a before how much did land ownership is because some of got cemented in pretty e

he t is this great new yorker bt look at all this thatt he did. what is also interesting is that the family are still around in new york. there up at massachusetts as well. i've met some of them. i've been doing research on your family and they got an here are pictures of the revolution. are there? it's interesting to m me as famy traditions of alts, changes. so was i talking to this person when is up inst massachusetts historical societyte. it'ss entering to hear her froa history i explained i found with frederick and his brothers are. but change but he adapted to life in new york partly because of all was implemented. i think they just moved on. >> this question follows on his own it's probably before you. the question is how much did land ownership some of it got cemented pretty early. to get access to land? how did influence people becoming patriots, sons of liberty, not part of the old order with the new order. >> jim to make an argument either way. that richlo people who went on o become patriots. a little more upstate but the new some likeil

tonight -- tom holland, editor of "the new yorker," writer david remnick, an all new "closer look." ♪s and applause ] and now, seth meyers. >> seth: good evening. i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." we hope you're doing well. and now if you don't mind, we're going to get to the news. vice president kamala harris participated last night in a cnn town hall event with undecided voters in pennsylvania. though i think talking to voters who are undecided at this point is like watching a movie with your mom. [ laughter ] "wait, who's that lady? are we supposed to know her?" [ laughter ] "who's that guy? i thought he died in that car accident." [ laughter ] during last night's cnn town hall event vice president kamala harris said she prays daily, while the rest of us have bumped it up to hourly. [ laughter ] vice president kamala harris yesterday criticized former president trump over reports that he has repeatedly praised adolf hitler in private. and if you think that's bad, you should hear some of the stuff he says in public. [ laughter ] at a trump campaign rally yesterday in georgia, f

hosting tonight's vice presidential debate so our new steam hit the streets to find out how excited new yorkerstting to see history up close. speak with the vice presidential debate is happening right here in new york city, and people are excited. >> i am outside 57th street right now to gauge the temperature of new york's vp debate. >> when i'm on the other side of 57th street because there are new yorkers pumped about this debate, literally everywhere. >> and i'm on the corner 57th street because this just happens to be new yorkers here as well. >> so on a scale of 1 to 10, how excited are you for the vice presidential debate in new york city? >> i'm going to say negative two. >> okay. >> so you're not excited? >> not particularly know. >> i don't care. >> i had no idea. >> bought? are you living under a rock, 30 rock? >> [laughs] >> new york joke. >> do you think this vice presidential debate is going to sway you in any way, one way or another? [laughter] >> they almost don't need to do it. [laughter] >> where were the only pumped up veeps? >> does anyone need my tickets to the sweat tour? i

nobody has to protect you because new yorkers have seen it all and heard it all and because new york city and the u.s. are not the places trump says they are. they are very different places from what trump describes to his followers and 20,000 of his fanatics discovered yesterday that trump has been lying to them about new york city. new york city proved to trump and to the world yesterday that trump has been lying about new york. when trump and his most racist public supporters and fanatical followers gathered in the heart of new york city nobody cared. not a single trump supporter had a moment of fear, not a moment of fear in the entire experience because that is how safe and accommodating new york city is. trump above all people proved that about new york city yesterday and while it new yorkers were ignoring the 20,000 fanatics who hate them gathered at madison square garden, more than 10 times that number of people were voting for president in new york city. 258,000 votes were cast in new york city on the first weekend of early voting. more than 200 of them will go to harris, tha

the survivors from 1778 received permission to move to new yorker where they continued in a similar serviceand lastly, captain hazard wilcox of new york would command a 24 man a pioneer company that did not survive the campaign. wilcox himself would survive 1777 but not the war. being killedd serving as a captain of calvary and the westchester militia in that county so who were these people? of the original members of the loyalist unit 310 of them. five of six were born in america. those loyalists were not born in america but that's a question people ask so much. why do so might loyalist go to england during the war? they have never been there. you can't go home to where you have never been from. anan examination of 163 postwar claims shows where they resided when they left to join the army. again, not surprisingly 141 the vast majority were from new york. fourteenth were from vermont, three from connecticut, two from new hampshire, two from massachusetts and one from new jersey. for the record that last one was not me. primarily to general simon fraser advanced guard mie losing 700 offics

and while new yorkers were ignoring the 20,000 fanatics who hate them and gathered at madison square garden, more than 10 times that number of an people were voting for the president in new york city with 250,000 votes cast in new york city in the first weekend of early voting according to normal voting patterns and more than 200 of those votes will go to kamala harris which is what k new yorkers were doing while they were ignoring the racism carnival at madison square garden. they were voting for kamala harris, a candidate rdbeing attacked in madison square garden because she is black and because she is a woman. today, here is what is happening in that same subway system were donald trump says you have a 75% chance of being murdered by walking down the stairs. here is what i saw on that very safe subway system on the way to work today, the luckiest people in town on their way to n the yankees world series game in the bronx. a yankees world series came is a collection of some of the very richest people in new york city. those tickets are not cheap. and those rich people go to the worl

the new yorker says, the choice is stark. the united states simply cannot endure another four years of donald trump, he is an agent of chaos, an enemy of democracy and a threat to moral standing in the world. kamala harris, who has shown herself to be sensible, humane, and liberal minded, is our choice for the presidency. the new york times editorial endorsing kamala harris is titled, the only patriotic choice for president. the editorial begins quote, it is hard to imagine a candidate more unworthy to serve as president of the united states and donald trump. he has proved himself morally unfit for an office that asks his occupant to put the good of the nation above self-interest. he has proved himself temperamentally unfit for a role that requires the very qualities -- wisdom, honesty, empathy, courage, restraint, humility, discipline -- that he must act lacks. those disqualifying characteristics are compounded by everything else that limits his ability to fulfill the duties of the president, his many criminal charges, his a

only a couple of months ago, the governor of new york a siphoned $5 billion of new yorkers tax money from schools, special education, athletics, services were veterans to house individuals have entered this country illegally in the city of new york because they embraced the sanctuary city policy. >> it's the same sort of underpinning that we're that you've heard all along. >> people feel like their government doesn't respect them and for me, whether you're republican or democrat, my job is to try to get this government to work for you and for me, i work with anybody who wants to solve problems that face the people i represent. >> some folks who feel that their government forces rules upon them and they've made this clear through past elections and through, through current polling are women and specifically on the issue of abortion. now, you you've said that you would not support a national abortion ban. your opponent josh riley, says that folks should didn't trust you on that issue. i wonder if vice president harris wins. >> would you go along with her proposal to codify the protectio

the new yorker said the choice is stark in the united states th simply can't endure another four years of donald trump and e he is the nature of chaos and an enemy of liberal democracy and the thread of america's moral standing in the world. kamala harris who has shown herself to be sensible, humane and liberal minded is our choice for the presidency." the new york times editorial endorsed kamala harris is entitled the only patriotic choice for president. the editorial begins "it heis hard to imagine a candidate more unworthy to serve as president of the united states than donald trump. he has proved himself morally unfit for an office that asks its occupant to put the good oft the nation above self-interest and he has proved himself temperamentally unfit for a roll -- role that requires the very qualities, wisdom, discipline and restraint, humility, that he most lacks. those disqualifying characteristics are compounded by everything else that limits his ability to fulfill the duties of lithe presidency and his many criminal charges, his advancing age, his fundamental lack of interest

. -- kyrsten jell-o brand. 51% of new yorkers think the state is on the wrong track compared to 37% who think it's on the right track. what do you think is going on in new york to make people feel so gloomy about the state's future? sen. gillibrand: i think we know the economy is not working the same for everyone. we have to get costs down and we have locked in the top price for our seniors. we need to get cost down for housing and food and these are the things that trouble people. i've been working on the economy, we've passed a huge infrastructure bill to rebuild our roads and bridges and sewers and airports. we worked on made in america manufacturing and over the next 10 years in new york state we will have huge semiconductor manufacturing in the capital region peer we need to do more to make people see the brighter future they have and those of the kind of things have been working on. we also need to lower their taxes. unfortunately because of president trump who my opponent supports, we got rid of the spouse deduction. >> why do you think people are so gloomy about the state's futu

is he the beginning of the new yorker? well, he goes to new york and he's he's a immediately caught up. he goes to king's college, the ancestor of columbia university. he's he immediately gets caught up in the revolution every after he's out, he's writing. there's a episcopal minister and in westchester county. this writing a pamphlet about how you've to be loyal to the british. and here's hamilton, 18 years old, writing another of 20,000 words or something. so, again, opinionated, arrogant new yorker. yes, they're both trading well and comfortable with diversity, comfortable with quoting the fearless, the first sense of wistful suffers as a new yorker approaches. yeah, he was well, he he ends up marrying ex-wife betsy, the daughter of other philip schuyler, who was a general in the revolutionary war and a big dutch origin landholder in albany, new york. they had a big sort of fort like house in albany, which was kind of the edge of settlement in that period with the iroquois all to the west. and so, you know, when he leav

new yorkers loved him. he was a crusader for the little guy brave, bold, a great leader who did not have time for distractions and that's the kind of politician we want, right? guy who cuts through the usual red tape and gets things done but by the time he got into power spitzer's noble crusade had been replaced with something darker why do we keep ending up here? why do we keep placing our hopes and confident man who make big promises then completely fail to deliver hello on. i would ask spitzer himself about this, but he stopped returning my texts, so i turn to eliot spitzer's mentor and friends, lloyd constantine, who's known him longer than almost anyone else in his life. so my thinking about this interview, i feel like your journey with elliot is the public's journey in the sense that people really thought he was gonna be the first jewish president. you did muscular democrat? yeah. and i want you to take us on the journey. yeah. >> you've talked about how you thought the presidency was eliot spitzer's

joining me is david, editor-in- chief of the new yorker. it's titled notes from the underground. i went to ask people to read it because it's a remarkable piece of reporting. some of the best i've seen about the conflict over the past year. what is the meaning of today for this conflict that after a year of evading what were very intense efforts to get him, sinwar is now dead ? >> the meaning is the architect of october 7, the chief leader of hamas in gaza is no more. he was a maximalist in negotiations about the hostages and much else. the meaning beyond that depends a great deal on the israeli leadership. you showed kamala harris saying this was a great opportunity for a breakthrough. the words of benjamin netanyahu were slightly different. he said this is not over. what he means by that is unclear. does he mean that the battle with hezbollah and iran is not over or does he mean in extent to gaza? he was fake. he has got a very extreme coalition in power. that he caters to and plays off the rest of the political situation in israel. that remains to be seen. >> sinwar you mentio

so the idea that donald trump is in new yorker, and this is what new yorkers say is i'm from california and i mean, we look at new york as, their fighters are strongly tell it like it is. they'll say it out loud. there are very how macbook, i mean, again, we're just like there's 8 million people in the city and so the idea, anyway, listen for long and often on the dock into, you know he he said it was reported. right? it was reported to him, and then it's reliably port or somebody paint him and he's got a hell of a big staff that can find somebody by saying it's reported implies it's been reported by some reputable report as opposed to the owner of miss sassy saying, oh, i think this might have happened and then miss sassy actually turns out to be in the basement, which i'm very grateful for, but again he's doubling down on this, never gives up. president trump, never, that not worry you down, right? >> does that not worry you that the person who may lead a country never admits a mistake or never is willing to to give up, in your words, meaning i live acknowledged. i usually what they'r

so the idea that donald trump is a new yorker, and this is what new yorkers say. it's i'm from california and i i mean, we look at new york as their fighters are strong, they tell it like it is, they'll say it out loud. there are very that's a comic book. >> i mean, again, just like there's 8 million people in the city. and so the idea, anyway listen long and often on the doctrine to you know, he, he said it it was reported. >> it was reported to him, and then it's reliably reported or somebody paint him and he's got a hell of a big staff they can find money by saying that it's reported implies it's been reported by some reputable report as opposed to the owner of miss sassy saying, oh, i think this might have happened and then miss sassy actually turns out to be in the basement, which i'm very grateful for, but again, he's doubling down on this never gives up i mean, president trump never that not worry you down, right? >> does that not worry you that the person who made lead a country never admits a mistake or never is willing to give up in your words, meaning i

i'm a lifelong new yorker so my career broadway my career in theater. gins here so to be back here in new york and celebrate the president this moment for he and the family and so many beautiful americans who are hoping and praying for his victory, it is a great honor. great honor. >> mary whenever the president speaks it is clipped chopped up retold, and it is framed in a certain narrative. and the rallies are no different they are told and you have reporters say i listened to ten rallies and i came away thinking x, y, z almost always negative but you've been there first hand what are these rally? >> it is all out party there's so electric even for friends on other side of the aisle i say you should experience a trump rally it is really incredible. you have all people all walks of life. ages cultures religions, americans all coming together, and celebration certainly the president and the elections he's in. but just in celebration of america. great patriots people who love our country and those who serve our country. pete: speaking of that will you sing

a difference of five congressional seat that will give us hakeem jeffries as the speaker. >> a new yorker as opposed to johnson. and we can get this done between new york and california. we will get it done. because again, we are looking for a congress that reflects our values. we are looking for a congress that understands that we are going forward. we are not going back. >> early voting coming underway in new york. i voted today after i preached out, and where democrats are most hopeful about winning back seats in the state with early voting, what message are you hoping voters take away as they had to the polls? >> well, i hope that they understand, especially in new york, as you said, i am chair of the d occ. what we do is try to flip chambers from red to blue. and the reality is, there was no early voting in new york until democrats took over both houses. and what we are seeing is enthusiasm for the harris/walls ticket. we are seeing people out there in massive numbers. i think new york city has seen the biggest numbers of ever seen. westchester and upstate. so people are coming becau

why it should new yorkers vote for you this time? >> because i have delivered on my promises.n i said is going to go to washington to secure the border, we did that a passing hr two. it's unfortunate chuck schumer and the democrats wanted nothing to do with that they are the reason as to why that border is still open. it's the reason as to why 15 people. arthel: right now congressman i'm giving you an opportunity to tell new yorkers why they should vote for you again in this very tight race. >> because we were able to put border security legislation. we've been fighting to restore salt i've been a staunch supporter and sit defender of israel. i've been on the ground talking to neighbors each and every day delivering close to $30 million back at committee projects to the fourth congressional district. there's a reason why after 25 years people won want the repubn conservative common sense leadership with the congressional district where they saw that i was a leader. someone prior nypd detective but someone who serve their community. someone had the deliver tax cut budget while

this is where many new yorkers would have been exposed to the federalist papers for the first time. they were published sequentially in three newspapers, a new york packet, the independent journal from october 1787 until august 1788. we are standing outside fraunces tavern which has been here since 1719. by the time the papers were published, it was one of the most reputable taverns and would have been well known to hamilton personally as he had been a member of the new york sons of liberty before the revolution who had held their meetings here. this is also the site of george washington's farewell to the continental army in 1783. because they drew from a wide swath of social classes in new york city, taverns like this one and coffee shops around the city served as one of the principal venues for conversation and debate about the federalist and anti-federalist papers. >> we are looking at the tour of new york city. it sounds to me like there was political intrigue between john jay and alexander hamilton and then james madison when they got to philadelphia. >> it could very well be th

the new yorker was responsible for writing the court report. after the publication of these reports , arendt was excommunicated by jewish associations. in these reports, which were later published in the book eichmann in jerusalem, hannah arendt demoted eichmann from the main culprit of the holocaust disaster. he pointed the finger of accusation at the jewish associations and talked about the influence they had on the fate of fellow believers. in 1960, arendt went to the occupied territories for the trial of adolf eichmann to prepare reports for the new yorker. later, arendt's five articles were edited and published in the form of eichmann in jerusalem. the nuremberg trials are a series of military trials held by the allies after world war ii under international law and the laws of war. the importance of this court was in the trial of a group of prominent members of the political, military, judicial and economic leaders of nazi germany, people who planned and executed war crimes, or were somehow involved in them. the proceedings were held in th

he's a subject in one of my articles about nafta in 2020 in the new yorker. i do think that it was not significant, a lot of the people that i spoke to pointed out that it was drafted and influenced by corporate lobbyists. you are still seeing this outflow of jobs. as i mentioned, the stellantis plants moved production of the jeep to mexico. i think in a lot of ways, it was very minor, the changes that it was able to do. and a lot of those changes, to be fair, were negotiated by -- at the us it -- insistence of organized labor. in order for them to agree to it, they made improvements in terms of organizing and so on. i think it is not all that different. that's why critics dubbed it nafta 2.0. rhetorically it was effective for trump and politically. but the substance of it, i don't think it achieved a significant difference. host: tom in ohio on the line for republicans. caller: thank you. i worked in a factory in a small town area in ohio. nafta pretty well shut it down. they moved it to mexico. the head ceo was larry. we will create 1000 jobs. he forgot to

so when i reported that in newsweek, the roof of the new yorker blew off. e best friend is our new owner? i had other cursory airy connections to him just from new york parties and that kind of thing. i did not know him well. to say he defines the corrupt lawyer in american history would be a understatement. trump asked where is my roy cohen. he would want to have him in that courtroom and among other things, roy cohen worked for joe mccarthy, he was the top eight, he prosecuted and at the end of his life when he was dying of aids, trump testified as a character witness for him in his trial, and this is fascinating. he deserted him at the end of his life when he realized he was dying and he could not do him any good he dropped him as cohen's secretary. >> a story told as only jonathan can, it is a wonderful book, american reckoning, thank you for debuting your discussions about it here. i appreciate it. >>> coming up, maxwell frost is finally back from georgia and he will tell us about today's record-breaking first day early voting in georgia and what it mea

>> well that i long shot, against on how tired o new yorkers are of crime, costs of taxes corruption. he certainly is going to do better in new york, than he did in first two campaigns. i think has outside chance i don't think -- if he carriers new york a landslide of reagan scale. but, certainly has momentum, what he is doing, helping reelect republican congressmen in new york vital, speaker ingenuous a big enough majority to impact trump agenda. >> now 51% versus 47%, same poll shows trump leading harris on key issues up 8 on economy seven points on inflation the middle east, 12 points immigration but what is with polls i mean so close, when you look at national polls much different than predictive markets when you get to something like a polymarket, you know, people put more than on, and betting on you've got a much wider gap, trump right now 66.6% versus kamala 33.4%, do you believe the other polls that have them so close nationally. >> a couple, different tradition of gaffecrat since 2020 trump doing very, very well democracy institute poll joint british american venture shows tr

are you with me, new yorkers?orter: according to a new sienna college poll, 69% of new yorkers support proposition 1 with 89% of democrats in favor just 36% of republicans support it. early voting starting on saturday. stuart: a doctor refused to publish the findings of her $10 million taxpayer funding and going to study reportedly showing do not have the national times and weapon si si sized ani lahren joining me now. $10 million to study transgender kids and we don't like the results? or she didn't? >> yeah, it's the woke agenda at play and it's $10 million taxpayer dollars that went to study and the woke doctor thought she'd find surprising results that injecting young people and minors with puberly blockers and hormones was going to improve their mental health. that was not shown and what's disturbing to me is this study was conducted on 95 minors of average age of 11 years old and they were followed for two years after receiving these puberly blockers and they showed really no improvements in mental health. t

why aren't you turning to central new yorkers to financially support your campaign and does this mean you're beholden to people who are not in our community? >> politics, i have learned, because i am completely new, is there is a lot of money required. i think as you said in your your introductory comments chris that this is a national race in fact some people view this as the most competitive race in the country and because of that it's going to attract national resources and it's going to drive a lot of the spending and advertising that you've seen and so because there's so much at stake it is completely true of myself and also for my opponent that there is a lot of money pouring in to this and every other competitive house seat in the country, even more so in the senate seats. so i think my fundraising represents a significant amount of investment from new yorkers and from people in central new york, as well as people that are concerned about the direction of our country nationally and that is true, that will always be be true in this very competitive seat of new york 22, there's n

support you to our native new yorker eric shawn. hello everyone i i am arthel neville. nine days until election day both campaigns are revving up to full speed for the final sprint. vice president kamala harris campaigning and must win a swing state pennsylvania briefly spoke of the philadelphia church this morning it is holding a rally there tonight. meantime trump assay can't quickly do to a firm is a battleground blitz to estate he is widely expected to lose it. each side is pushing hard to close the deal. quotes with your help, from now until election day we will redeem america's promise of. we will put america first we will take back the nation we love it. >> the election is here. it is here and the choices truly in your hands. your vote is your voice. when your voice is your power. eric: live coverage for peter doocy is guarding the harris campaign. with aishah hasnie inside madison square garden with the latest in the trump rally. >> good evening to open talk with the senior drop campaign official who said the candidate and campaign or feeling good ard heading in

or no on proposition one, the equal rights amendment that protects against unequal treatment for new yorkers? rep. ryan: i will vote yes to protect abortion rights, lgbtq rights, disability rights, and abortion is not on the ballot. lisa voted for reproductive freedom. ms. esposito: abortion is not in proposition one. outcome of pregnancy is. this will pave the way for boys to play in girls boards, pave the way for illegals to vote in our election. i am going to be voting against proposition one, and as a member of the gay community it is not about lgbtq rights. it is about fairness in sports, security in locker rooms, and about allowing parents to decide what is best for their children. moderator: we are moving on to foreign policy. the u.s. is sending a missile defense system and about 100 troops to aid israel's defense against iran. do you support it? rep. ryan: i do support it. it is necessary. we have seen two unprecedented direct attacks from iran, a terrorist regime, against our closest ally in the middle east where we share both democratic values and interest with israel. i probably

joining me is a contributing writer for the new yorker who has been warning about effects about climatenge only longer than most people have known what climate change is. to see you. the reason i want to talk to you about this is you have talked about the fact that fear and - can be damaging and paralyzing when it comes to climate action. you also say it is necessary for people to take bold steps being hopeful about things. you have recently written about the utility of understanding fear when it comes to situations like hurricane should we be worried, should we feel hopeful, what should we do? >> there is no way not to feel afraid. if you are sitting there on the west coast of florida were up in the appalachians watching the storms come pounding in. the point is to make that apprehension useful. that means paying attention to what we know. what we know are two things. one, climate change is making these storms much larger, as you say and two, we do not need to be poor and carbon into the atmosphere anymore around the world. the cheapest way to make energy is to use solar power and wind

you might remember that the owner of the new yorker, until his death was a guy named, sign new house.ering media for newsweek in the '80s when the new yorker was sold to him. nobody knew anybody about this guy. he didn't come out of the magazine world. i found out that his best friend in high school--he had two friends, roy cohn and jean pope who was the founder of the national enquirer, which is a big factor in this trial. so, i called up roy cohn and he said, yes i talked to newhouse and hope every morning at 6:00 a.m. they are my best friends in the world. so, when i reported that in newsweek, the roof of the new yorker blew off. the people there, roy cohn's best friend is our new owner? i had some other cursory connections to him at new york parties and things. i didn't know him well. but, to say that he defines the corrupt lawyer in american history would be an understatement. trump asked, where is my roy cohn. he wanted to have roy cohn in that courtroom. among other things, roy cohn worked for joe mccarthy. he was his top aide. you prosecuted the rosenbergs and had ethel rosenb

she's coast of the new yorker podcast with political theme with her colleagues and it would literallyake me half of the night to root recites that numerous awards she has received. let's justst note a poco or guggenheim fellowship a two-time finalist for the national book award are on that very, very long list. please join me and welcoming. [applause] x thank you for that lovely introduction. it means so much to me i've part of the politics and prose community so long it was on the other side ofn connecticut's. jon, thank you for that oral reading of the book. sound even better from you than it does on paper. there are so many people in this room i could think but then we'd never get to the book. alls might thank you's are in e acknowledgments which i loved writing.n to read the acknowledgments and finallypl jane, it is such a pleasure to be with you. i admire your work and writings for decades. i've been asking questions for 30 years. go for comment jane. [laughter] cox finally got you where i want you. [laughter] the first thing i want to make sure is neither you spoke to any strang

the last time donald trump had this many new yorkers in the palm of his hand, he was doing it to impressally to the right, folks! come on! okay. sorry. wait, wait. stand right here. you are good, you are good. okay. [chanting "usa"] >> look at you. my goodness. look at this get up. holy crap. i almost wore that. thankfully, my meds kicked in. [laughter] because it is absurd! where are you two from? >> annapolis, maryland. >> oh, out of towners. so tell me, since you arrived in new york city, how many times have you been murdered? [laughter] >> so you are a big trump fan. >> yes. >> i tell you what, at least trump is the legitimate nominee. kamala, you know, it was like a coup, right? they handed her the nomination. >> you are right. >> but she still has to get past trump, which for a woman, is very hard to do without pepper spray. everyone outside is like, it is a nazi rally. >> that is true. >> this is nothing like a nazi rally. this nazis were in shape, first of all. they took care of themselves, unlike this guy over here. seriously, when i look at you, makes me think the groceries are

i think there are ripe opportunities for new yorkers. ork might be the state that would bring hakeem jeffries the speakership and the majority in the house? >> a brooklyn congressman right there. what about eric adams? you heard ali vitali talk about him a little. when i was covering the hudson valley two years ago, i heard a lot from folks who ended up voting for mike lawler that they thought new york was a mess, it was lawless. they thought the leadership was bad. with this news that eric adams is under indictment and a lot of his staff are as well, does that help things or hurt things? does it matter, the allegations against eric adams? >> you know, you know those folks on long island and the upper hudson valley, even pennsylvania and new jersey read the "new york post." that has some impact. i think that the impact. but i think the voters of new york are very sophisticated. as you saw one of those clips, you know, abortion is a primary issue for many new yorkers. it's they fear for the country itself and the direction of the country.

. >> we discovered your book in the new yorker in a book review in the new yorker, which focused on grantood's american gothic. how does that play a role in your book? >> yes well-- i wished i had been able to put it on the cover of my book. so i was very happy that "the new yorker writer" was able to do that for me. what he does wonderfully in that book is making maybe the most iconic painting of the 20th century in america and really doing an anatomy of it to reveal that what you think you are seeing here isn't what you are really seeing here. this is not a farmer and his wife, it is a dentist and somebody else, this house itself was built from a sears catalog from chicago. the house by this point had been abandoned-- i mean, it's a wonderful job he does in dissecting this mythology that we associate with that past rural life, which goes way back into the 19th century. it continues to this day one of ththings i was talking about in a talk i gave, i didn't include it in the book was the phenomenon of "little house on the prairie." the books were published in the 1930s. the television sho