having newey were owners and new people they had to work with. it changed the way they looked at the institution of slavery as well. host: in what way? guest: one had a particular owner you live with most of your life, then if you were sold, you don't know their personalities, you really have to connect and find out what that plantation is like and what the estate of that farm is like. you also had to develop by being away from family members you have lived with. you may have been separated from parents, a cousin, uncle or aunt. it is now a new community and they have to adjust to life in this new space. host: how did the slaves see themselves? do we know? thethey know their value, price that people were putting on them? people oftened make comments. we have these from records. from narratives, from personal papers, from abolitionist records, from newspapers. you look at these comments from them and they will say things like, "my value is $600, i do not care. the monetary value they put on my body was nothing than that value i had on myself." val