organizations the banded together and help get people out of the city who lost their homes, brought in newhelterom what i was hearing from my work to haggle a lot better than fema of ordering people when they can and cannot go and buts in the process to behalf of. john: a recent edition of forbes magazine, the richesteople's list featured philanthropy. so how they are now reading billionaires' by how much they give. a kind of want my heart. let's have a competition. >> there is nothing wrong with people giving money to the causes a thinker valuable. not every good or service will be produced for profit. some of it can come from this segment of society, and it's fine that we recognize that as long as we don't demonize those wharen't doing it and think there's something wrong with them pursuing profit because there is not. that osmanli makes us better off john: there are these tycoons from previous years cornelius vanderbilt and john d. rockefeller and people who vilify them. they did some charity work. they were evil robbers. >> they fundamentally transformed the lives of americans and raising li