today, much more specificatioit from newland. let's listen. >> as we develop the sectoral approach, the idea here is, as i said, to use a scaleable rather than -- a scalpel rather than a hammer to focus on high-tech and other investment where russia needs us far more than we need russia, whereas europe trades 9% with russia. russia's trade is 50% based in europe. so they are far more vulnerable. >> reporter: very interesting way to get around those concerns from europeans who are so rely ant on russia principal for their energy needs. one thing that occurred in this hearing today, victoria nuland talking about the threats of the baltics and poland, president obama scheduled to meet po land, a brand-new nato ally, someone who is a former -- a country that is a former member of the soviet block and slat light. president obama will go there in about a month's time in a show of support. nuland said these states are now front line states. she said she never thought she would be using that phrase again in her career. >> mike, is it you

associated press reporter matthew lee writing to the state department spokesperson at the time, victoria newland. >> the information is frankly shocking even for an election year. >> i think this is in a different category. this is not the white house bashing fox. they have their own reasons and incentives to do that. this is a reporter who is given the state department spokesman all sorts of grief over the years. you can't say he's a softy. >> right. >> he's competing. he's doing source management. and source stroking. that's what i think it is. >> that's what it is. a.p. spokesman told me that matthew lee was not criticizing fox but was criticizing a british newspaper report which was cited on fox. >> when it was dropped, fox also dropped that. when the independent took it down, yes. >> thanks very much for joining us this sunday. >>> up next, the espn writer who blew the whistle on donald sterling's racism eight years ago. and why the media looked the other way. >>> and later, a new documentary on jason blair's fabrication with a cameo appearance by me. ke >>> eight years ago, well before the

well putting myself in newlands mind cramming myself and in there. i would have to say that she looked like she was a no lose situation for for her and the neo cons. but worse that could happen would be that they would appear foolish as they are appearing they would not succeed that the russians would turn the economic screws on the ukraine and those who are trying to help them and that they certainly wouldn't get ukraine into nato and that's already happened the other no lose situation there was that in the interim the atmosphere in relations between the u.s. and russia has plummeted yeah and that's all to the good for someone like victoria nuland because she does not want the media poutine pulling obama's chestnuts out of the fire as he did on syria with those chemical weapons and she has helped iran with their nuclear development program so you know either way they don't seem to have much much shame so if they get a bloody nose as long as they're making relations with russia more troublesome then that's all to the good from there. point of view yo

he is the one that virginia newland you heard on the tape wanted him as prime minister. >> she was callinghim on that tape yats. >> welcome it is hard to pronounce his name. yats to us. we tend to stop and think -- think with the languages come a with the danger is. is a prime minister and responsible for sending armored troops from kiev to eastern ukraine where the pro-russian or anti-kiev forces are. they call it an antiterrorist operation. antiterrorist operation. ukrainians are also living there. we're the terrorism that has been created in eastern ukraine -- where are the terrorism's that have included in eastern ukraine? i know of none. what language are they using to refer to the prime minister? kiev fascist. yet the government inkiev sending troops against eastern ukraine on the grounds their terrorist. and you have the insurgents, let's call them that in eastern ukraine refer to the government as fascist's. that is how far apart these people are. and all of this on the 69th anniversary of world war ii, when ukraine and russia lost millions of people to actual fascist. this is how

victoria newland is one of those testifying on the crisis in ukraine before the house foreign affairs committee this hour. pro-russian groups are going on with a referendum on autonomy even after president vladimir putin delayed the vote or asked them to delay the vote. it is now set for sunday. he's pulling back russian troops from the border although there is no evidence yet of that pullback. >> right now a confirmation hearing for the woman the president tapped to be the next human services second. silvia, in what southerneded like a bipartisan lovefest. mccain joking after all, who would recommend their friend take over as captain of the titanic after it hit the iceberg. burwell is facing tough questions from obamacare which she will inherit along with its troubled rollout. sfwloot unionization of college student athletes. it's become a hot-button issue considering players on the northwestern university football team just voted on whether they should unionize. officials aren't releasing how that team voted until after an appeal. the house has two bills pending that concerned treat

all you have to do is go to google and whor-secretary newland speaks about the $5 billion they spentport democracy in the ukraine, and you will see and they planned this coup now blaming and demonizing putin. what is fascinating to me is how complete the propaganda is. i have watched everything from the pbs evening news to nbc, n cnbc, all the way to the bill mahr show. they all take the u.s. line. they do not present anyone on their panels to speak about what actually happened. it is amazing, and they all know the truth. everyone should check out that youtube video. newland speaking after returning from the ukraine about the united states spending my , and in a recorded conversation she drops the f-bomb. host: all right. politico has a story this morning -- senators, hurry up and wait on ukraine. message, somebody needs to do something about this. the wet that is and who should do it remains unsettled. as the conflict between pro-russian separatist in the ukraine military continues to worsen, lawmakers express openness to ratchet up operations and even delivering more military aid t

sanctions he responded to newlands claim saying in all fairness i don't think it's stopped russia from doing anything new and was also hard pressed to explain what would trigger more aggressive action from the us she said russian recognition of the independence referendum or a possible russian disruption of the may twenty fifth elections would prompt so-called sectoral sanctions against wide swaths of the russian economy and energy technology and defense but the nature of these so-called disruption was something that wasn't immediately clear from her testimony something republican senator john mccain pounced on earlier in the week. it's nearly victory day parade marking the end of world war two moscow pulled out all the stops in the parade it does yearly featuring eleven thousand troops marching through red square followed by a military convoy one hundred fifty units of military weaponry and of course a spectacular display put on by the air force and a fly over of sixty nine aircraft to commemorate the sixty nine years since the defeat of the nazi regime russian president vladimir puti

ground troops to a stone latvia lithuania poland and romania now let's have a look at exactly water newlands been talking about here let's show you a picture of the nato buildup in eastern ukraine since ukraine's been built up into turmoil dozens of fighter jets and several spy planes ready to take off at any moment to nato ships are stationed in the waters of the black sea with another guided missile cruiser reportedly heading their way these gun a chicano has a look at how the alliance has been pushing its borders eastward nato is pivoting to russia again the alliance is looking to deploy more forces close to russia's borders and to get members to spend more on the military it's key member of the u.s. which spends more on military than the countries with the next ten highest budgets combined is now getting a chance to both states omnipresence. today the u.s. military is engaged in nearly one hundred countries with nearly four hundred thousand personnel stationed or deployed around the world. now that we're looking at the prospect of an evil larger presence of nato forces in eastern europe

it's all about to me because for some reason i don't know what was in newlands cookies i don't know maybe she put in extreme grief that i don't know but there was this is sumption that russia would do not want anyone doing all this would do nothing this is a major miscalculation here because it's very interesting is that in a different way the russian has done very very little it is watch ukraine disintegrate and it didn't have to be that way i mean look at ukraine back in november of last year it wasn't doing great but it wasn't falling apart and they were killing each other now russia is going to continue to watch ok and it's very possible if we see more referenda that these independent republics if they want to call themselves of course they won't be recognized but they may join russia's custom union that would be a red line for a lot of people. yes i think that that i mean it's there's no question that there's no part of ukraine that isn't is more viable in separation than it is in unity but it's not viable in unity either they need to ally in containing continue the alliances that th

themselves into a huge mess right now huge mess right now charles keep it because it seems to me that newlands plan has obviously failed she wanted all of ukraine including crimea now it's an ad hoc and now the plan is to bait russia into action some kind of military action and they're and they're really really angry with mr putin because not only is he not doing that he's not saying much either well of course it's always questionable what the real plan is want to be talking about washington in particular because of course there are always competing agendas at play for example look at the syria situation just to touch it very briefly because there's an analogy here you've got on the one hand perhaps the pentagon perhaps even. to some degree wanting to hold back realizing to some degree what the military and strategic consequences for the u.s. for example in arming al-qaeda type groups all related groups might have for the u.s. but on the other hand you've got very powerful lobbies for example you've got saudi arabia you've got israel concerned and you've also got of course the republican party

by the west because it's still backed by the west we have to remember after the coup we know from newlands conversation she appointed the government almost to every position it's really quite remarkable or she must be clairvoyant i don't know but you know you have referenda in the east it's not recognized but there's going to be a kid oriented election it's called legitimate but it's kind of hypocrisy well all over the world the united states brags about being the champion of democracy but whenever people may vote against the interests of the united states and against the interests of wall street in the bankers all the sudden they're not interested in democracy anymore they discounted the elections in crimea they've ignored the referendums and now it's going to and this is just pure example of hypocrisy just like they're trying to prevent syria from having elections coming up now whenever elections go on in the us doesn't like the results they simply ignore them it's very very hypocritical you know the fact that when these referendums took place and asked people how to defend the ballots w