president newlin: excellent. ok. >> i would like to move to approve this and your presentation was awesome. >> commissioner prius, aye. commissioner lee, aye. president newman, aye. >> good luck. very thankful. thank you. president newlin: 7b, dba king of thai. extended hours premises permit. >> this is a restaurant downtown in the union square neighborhood. the permit would allow them to stay open past 2:00 a.m.. sfpd recommends the permit be approved. i believe the applicant is in agreement. in your file are letters of support and the tenants association coalition of san francisco. we have not received any communication of concern. >> good evening, i am representing captain john joseph garrity. i met with the applicant and her husband, did a walk-through of the business and after having some discussions with the applicant, we came to the agreement that we would recommend approval for them to stay open for one hour from 2 a.m. to 3:00 a.m. in the morning. they agreed after one year, we will look at their busines

president newlin: any questions? >> i have some questions that i just want clarified on your conditions. with regard to condition no. 8, which says security personnel should be trained and able to conduct patron wanding, who is going to train them? >> how about you? [laughter] i think that is important. this particular condition was changed today because there was a condition that says everybody should be wanding. the police were very receptive to this. gay males are not used to being wanded. they do not tend to have fights. in the amended security plan, i talk about this a little more. if you have a concert, you should wand them. with any possibility of a weapon coming in w you shouldand them. if its people at sundance who are 45 years old, gay males square dancing, i do not think you need to wand them. or if it is a corporate event, i do not think you need to wand them. more and more, we will see that because of our insurance issues. we will have it available any time it is that kind of event. and we're going to le

president newlin: edification. correct me if i am wrong, it is good for us to know, but it is under the authority of the department of public health. >> commissioner hyde had seen a similar presentation and have facilitated that presentation here mostly as point of information. clarity on this topic is useful, as it does get mixed up and people do have questions for the commission sometimes. relativity getting into certain businesses or facilitating meetings with businesses in that industry, if the commission wants to direct staff to assist him in that regard or not, that is up to you. president newlin: any public comment? the final item, new business request for future agenda items. is there any public comment o b? that will terminate and finalize the tuesday, july 10, a meeting of the san francisco city and county of san francisco entertainment commission. thank you for coming. >> it was an exciting event for those who wanted some long needed improvements. >> they saw it and they took care of it. >> the project i

president newlin: let's call for a vote. we have a motion and a second. >> [roll-call vote] president newlin: good luck. item d -- yong yu, legend billiard hall, 1948 ocean avenue. welcome. >> i want to make sure we got the right. the address is 1948 ocean. the applicant went through a planning code notification process earlier this year. they began extensive outreach in january and completed that process. the venue has no alcohol and there are note additional proposed conditions. >> what is the cross street? >> i will let the applicant speak to that. >> fairfax. >> where? >> fairfax. >> how far you've from 24 hour fitness? >> may be a block. >> 8 pool tables. >> i am one of the partners for legend billiard hall. i will summarize what we will be doing for this business. the establishment will consist of eight tables, four of which are for pocket billiards. the facility will offer non alcoholic beverages to our customers. the interior will be put together with a flat screen televisions. opening and closing hours will be 2:00

president newlin: the most important thing is to meet with no. station. and before you come back to us, that they are happy with the security plan. like commissioner joseph said, even though your space is quite intimate, i have been there. i personally do not feel comfortable with just one. again, you have to go back to the police department and deal with that. in the meantime, you cannot do any operation, any karaoke, until you come back to us and we can improve this. maybe we should hear from the police department now. welcome. >> good evening. i am the commanding officer of northern station. i think you hit on just about everything. he was cited once again for operating without a permit on 5- 12. and adjudication of that will not take place for another couple of weeks. it is another denial under section 5 of 1050.53f. that said, we have enough that are managing the bars properly. i am glad you brought it up. we need to sit and have a real long sitdown with the operators of this establishment and come up with a real good game plan to make sure it is ope

president newlin: ok. number one is public comment. members of the public may address the commission on items of interest to the public that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. members of the public may address the commission for up to 3 minutes at this time. nobody? very good. item number two, review and approve the minutes of may 22, 2012, and june 12, 2012. do we have a motion on the minutes? >> yes. i moved to approve. >> by second. commissioner lee: aye. vice chair joseph: aye. commissioner hyde: aye. commissioner perez: aye. president newlin: aye. moving right along, the report from the executive director. you have your gun in your mouth. stick it under the table. -- your gum in your mouth. stick it under the table. >> good evening. it should be short this evening. i want to update you on the budget hearings that began on the 18th of june. the first time the supervisors budget and finance committee met to discuss the budget analyst recommendations. we are under the advent services budget. although the ma

president newlin: anybody else? >> how is your next-door neighbor since you have changed your way of doing business? are they a little bit more -- sometimes you can share people,

president newlin: now we will hear from the police. >> good afternoon, commissioners. the applicants did come and meet with me regarding their security plan. i reviewed it with them and it seemed to be an upgrade from what they had and it seemed to be acceptable. during that meeting, they did neglect to tell me that he was cited for karaoke. if they have on adjudicated citations, and they do have one, and now this is the second one, i do not know how this can be approved at this time. president newlin: we can condition that. >> their surveillance system is also very good. >> lieutenant, anything to add? >> have any of view ever of this -- have any of you observed them checking ids, bag checks or anything like that? it's the only security guard is the owner, -- did they have other employees decide the owner working there? >> i do not know. >> you guys have never observed them during their operations? >> we have that officers in there. >> have you observe them during your visits? >> i have not observed them during operations. i've never seen pat-downs or bag checks. it w

president newlin: thank you. is there any questions? >> i know you said in your studied there were certain bars that were particularly harmful -- in your studies, there were certain bars that were particularly harmful. can you name them? >> no. in the agreement the require the bars be anonymous. -- they require the bars be anonymous. >> the health department already requires it but the new law that you cannot smoke in a patio, that is part of your business. >> no. >> before you finish, let me clarify a couple of things. if it is a restaurant serving food, they cannot have smoking in the outdoor dining areas. quex in one -- >> i own one that has a patio. you're talking about restaurants that do not have one. >> we here permit places that have entertainment, limited live or entertainment permit. there are tons of cars that do not have -- bars that do not have permits and we do not necessarily have their information. >> i appreciate that information. president newlin: since we have a high number of richmond station here, what is your feeli

president newlin: aye. the item is continued to the call of the chair. item 5c, tim eicher, the edge, 4149 18th st., place of entertainment permit. >> the edge is a 49-person occupancy bar in the castro. the operator currently holds a limited performance permit, which you may remember granting earlier this year. the operator got that while the conditional use process was pending. on june 14, the planning commission approved the space. it is attached in your packet. staff has received documentation of concerns from the public. we receive letters of support from the market from the castro and neighborhood valley neighborhood association. sfpd propose 11 additional conditions. >> i am one of the owners. our occupancy is 95, so the aids is three months region -- the edge is very much a community bar. we oppose the number of we did host a number of organizations, -- we hosted a number of organizations. the edge has a history of entertainment, including many years of fund-raisers and contests. prior to 2004, many venues operated with entertainment, even though

president newlin: aye. commissioner hyde: no. >> that does not pass. >> i would like to move to extend the term limit to three years, but i am happy to revisit this notion of what should we have it be, kind of not from the same industry, i just need more time to think about it. i'm happy to move that forward. with the idea that we can hopefully revisited. >> when? when revisit it? >> next meeting? >> you want oa -- a bylaws chane has to be posted for how long? >> we posted a 10 days in advance for this meeting tonight. to have an additional change would require another 10-day notice. i don't know. you can clarify, commissioner joseph, if you wanted to have this discussion sooner. commissioner joseph: i feel we are making a change to the bylaws, we should discuss it now. it is on the agenda now. talk about it now. if we're going to move to vote on it in the next meeting, if we don't like it, we will do it at the next meeting, it makes us look a little silly. >> i would also like to move it tonight. if we hav

[please stand by] >>president newlin: ok, everyo's favorite item. report of the executive director. >> i know you are not being sarcastic at all. just briefly, a couple of things short enough to not bother writing a memo. i put in the tab behind you in your binder the review of ab 45 which is the assembly bill legislation regarding party bosses and there was some movement last week, there was a press conference where we got this handout which again, if you're interested in keeping it, it is to cited and has contact information on the back about changes, the background that it brought forward. and the progress that is made and the support that it has. so according to assemblyman hale's office, it cleared the judicial committee last week and referred to the preparations. i do not know why so do not look at me like i am crazy. i am just reporting the progress of the bill. but it is not likely it will move your preparations until after the summer break that the assembly takes and i will stay on this and keep you updated. this is focused on underage drin

. >> again, and i think you know this, but to be clear, it is not necessarily not president newlin's desire. this is a bylaws change. you can change these bylaws as you go. there is discussion to be had about the pros and cons. it is something that we would need a motion to make a change. regardless of who is the president now -- if we ended with bylaws, we say three years, it will be that way until we change it. >> just for history, the bylaws were written in the first year of this commission. 2003-2004. at the time, it was very new. nobody really knew what to expect, being a new regulatory agency. there were reps from the neighborhood and from entertainment. in order to make sure that nobody got into a big brawl here, the bylaws were written to stop that. i think that because seats have changed on this commission so often, lots of commissioners are brand new and don't have the experience that is important to have someone sitting in the chair to set the agenda and runs the meeting that is somewhat experienced. so, i think three years is a good amount of time to do it. should it stil

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. >> [roll-call vote] president newlin: item 7, commissioner comments and questions. commissioners? item eight, new business request for future agenda items. >> there was a meeting change in the bylaws that says we have to meet on the second and fourth tuesdays. >> the bylaws were meeting with me mad on the first and third tuesdays. somebody changed it. " we will change that back. we. met the first and third. >> if you are in a club and they have the music and the screen, but you are lip-synching, is that a violation? [laughter] >> all rights, that concludes the july 24 meeting of the entertainment commission. thank you.