. >> tim seymour, do you agree, trade or fade newmont corp >> i'm going to trade it you pick someone opposite of the other one. i'm on the other side of dan on this one you've heard me talk about miners, they're better run companies. there's not cap exto the moon, op ex to the moon. the price of gold is perplexing down 18, 19% sen fral bank mania is still intact you also have inflation and other hedges gold has not disappeared even if bitcoin has stolen some of its thunder. i think we're going to see a rally. i like miners on what they do. they mine, they do it better. >> moving on to at&t losing more than 6%. karen finer man, is b-u-y? >> t i think is a trade, actually i mean, you know, there's a lot to hate about it except the valuation and the dividend and, you know, i think they'll be the beneficiary of iphone sales so there's that the balance sheet, of course, is an issue but i think at some point it's just so cheap and it might be there right now that i don't see how you fade this one. so i'm trading it. >> the trade because it does have a 7.5% dividend yield guy, what are you