newport beach california, and alix, i will send it alix: thank you, erik, for that interview with billlie, the stock is down sharply after hours. julie: you can see that on my bloomberg terminal behind me the drop in the after-hours. this stand around 13%. what is behind it. they came out with an unexpected loss, at least unexpected by analysts. analysts had been predicting a gain, and earnings per share so that is part of the problem. and it is below what they had been anticipating. alix: thank you, julie. lots more coming up on "street smart," and we will get more reaction to bill gross's interview on the other side of this break, and former new york giant tiki barber will join me with how players can prepare a financial playbook. ♪ alix:'bill gross's comments and we have some guests, including atul lele lisa abramowics, and carl riccadonna. is this reflected in the gdp forecast we have now? carl: i think we cannot cast judgment about whether we had entered the new paradigm until the economy has normalized. the unemployment rate has not crossed back to its neutral level, so we are st