newt lost that race by seven votes in the house, seven members who said we won't vote for newt for speaker. newt got reelected -- and tom knows this -- he couldn't get reelected speaker so he resigned. and i didn't know he was going to do that. i was going to speak at the national realtors conference out at disneyland at a convention. i got to the hotel that afternoon and there were 72 phone messages for me. the guy came and said boy, i hope nobody died at your house. i said that's a great way to get to a hotel. he said you have 72 messages. i said let me see them. the first 71 were from my wife. i called her and she said have you heard. heard what? newt quit. quit what? he quit as speaker and a member of the house. everybody is calling on you to run. nothing computed. very quickly, i learned a lot about partisan politics. a lot of people wanted somebody to take newt's place. his body wasn't even cold yet and they were picking over it. they wanted to pick as so in some kind of skirmish. to make a long story short, partisan politics was pretty rough in those days. it's a lot rougher now but

newt quit, quit what? quit as speaker and member of the house and everybody's calling on you to run? >> what? quickly i learned a lot about partisan politics. a lot of people wanted to have somebody take newt's place and newt's body wasn't cold yet and they were taking over it and want it there first, some kind of war like that, anyway to make a long story short partisan politics was pretty rough in those days. it's a lot rougher now, but pretty rough back then and people voted not with their head, but with their hammer, not their heart either one. so i learned in an area where if you're a republican, democrat a democrat and don't ever cross. don't work with anybody, don't make it easy, you've got the votes, use them and we kept getting beat or kept getting outtricked all the time or tricked. out-tricked is probably not the right word. and enough republicans to beat the democrats or vice versa, i thought that was stupid. i didn't say that 435 is a lot of people. you don't want to get run over. i made a spe

trey gowdy and newt gingrich are here to react. trey gowdy in june 2018 laid out his case that these two fbi agents, sent text messages which caused a firestorm. he makes the argument with acting with political bias, watch. >> peter strzok wrote nonsense and trump is a disaster and had no idea how these stabilizing presidency would be. we have the same fbi agent lisa page and the same fbi agent peter strzok working on the clinton email investigation, the russia probe, and on mueller's statement. >> martha: former federal prosecutor and oversight committee chair trey gowdy joins me exclusively, good to see you tonight, thank you very much for being here. >> trey: yes, ma'am thank you. >> martha: lisa page is tired of being quiet appeared she said i'm not going to be quite anymore. she says every time i hear the president at a rally or in a tweet, she wants everybody to know these were taken out of contact. i want to put some of these up on the screen. just to remind everybody what these text messages said. number one train, trump is

newt gingrich did not pass bills. mitch mcconnell is not passing bills.here is he getting his money from? from the united states people. if he has an outside income that is paying him to do the deal of wish heing bills, i would just quit. jesse: go ahead and respond. jackie: i want to thank john for his service to our country in vietnam. both my husband's family have people who served as did my grandfather. my dad was an army brat. back to his questions or comments about leaving the republican party, that is part of the process. people are free to leave whatever party they want. when i think of the republican vision, and this is the thing about parties in america, he don't have to subscribe to their own belief system, you could talk about what it means to you and why you are a part of that party. i am a part of the republican party because i believe in limited government. and i believe in a lot of the same ends that people on the democratic side talk about. for instance i am very concerned , about homelessness and i have been involved with a homeless shel

remember clinton's travels didn't stop newt gingrich from impeaching president clinton. it is not determinative. it has a political spin you put to it but the other part of the political spin, with trump it seemed, i think this is why you had the thought, i certainly had it, it looks like a photo-op. remember he hadn't gone to visit any war zone until last year. he was criticized for it. this is the first visit to afghanistan, our longest war,

newt gingrich has experience and he will respond. and don't think we forgot about the 2020 democrats on the trail. how the left is cannibalizing itself. candace owens. over this race. with can't miss reaction, but first the democrats lies is the focus of tonight's "angle." it was the 1976 film "all of the president's men" that made impeachment sexy. it lionized the journalists chased down a president's lies. >> bernstein. got another source. >> you don't have to. the guy just confirmed. the story will sell.ph we are sure of it. i just got off the phone. >> okay, we go with it. >> laura: today the roles are reversed. journalists and democrats are spinning lies and they are not doing it well. for brevity's sake tonight, we will focus on only five lies the media and democrats told in their quest to remove the president from office. first whopper and it's clever. state your warped opinion, repeat it again and again and then claim it's a fact. >> the facts are uncontested. the president abused his power for its only personal political ben

guest: i am unusual because my father is newt gingrich. a year and a half ago called leadership atlanta, and during the program i didn't tell anyone who my dad was, because i knew once they knew, it would change their opinion of me. so i was careful not to let anyone know. some people found out, but even after the program was over many people were surprised i was newt's daughter. we prejudge, and this happens on both sides. it's really interesting. almost half of republicans and democrats dislike the other side without knowing who they are. and in addition to that, 64% of democrats and 55% of republicans have few or no friends on the opposite side. so, what happens is we kind of self-select ourselves by party, and what this means is we begin to hate each other, without even knowing one another, and that's the real problem. host: what is a quick solution you see for that? you talk about this in your book, but one thing you can tell us really quickly that will get us past this? guest: the first thing to do, find someone of the opposite party

newt lost that race by seven votes in the house, seven members who said we won't vote for newt for speaker. newt got reelected -- and tom knows this -- he couldn't get reelected speaker so he resigned. and i didn't know he was going to do that. i was going to speak at the national realtors conference out at disneyland at a convention. i got to the hotel that afternoon and there were 72 phone messages for me. the guy came and said boy, i hope nobody died at your house. i said that's a great way to get to a hotel. he said you have 72 messages. i said let me see them. the first 71 were from my wife. i called her and she said have you heard. heard what? newt quit. quit what? he quit as speaker and a member of the house. everybody is calling on you to run. nothing computed. very quickly, i learned a lot about partisan politics. a lot of people wanted somebody to take newt's place. his body wasn't even cold yet and they were picking over it. they wanted to pick as so in some kind of skirmish. to make a long story short, partisan politics was pretty rough in those days. it's a lot rougher now but

in 1994. >> this is an earthquake. >> preaching the new gospel of strict orthodox conservatives. >> newtich reshapes the republican party. our base wants this, we do this. we do not compromise with democrats. >> president clinton became the democrat the republicans despised the most. he was morally corrupt, thety said. >> he experimented with t. >> i experimented with marijuana a few times and didn't inhale. >> the law is the law. the law is sacred. >> meanwhile, ken starr had been digging into the clintons for more than two years, to no avail. >> are you going to be working for congress or the courts or the public? >> his investigation was winding down. then out of the blue, some explosive tape recordings came his way. >> i never expected to feel this way about him. >> conversations with monica lewinsky -- >> we fooled around. >> -- that was secretly recorded by her coworker, linda tripp. >> if you get to orgasm, that's having sex. >> no, it's not. >> yes, it is. >> no, it's not. >> starr expanded his investigation even further, to look into lewinsky. >> i thought, that was nuts. i coul

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they kept their majority but newt gingrich was out because of it. there's a difference, poppy.imes. jim is exactly right that impeachment support has dropped a little bit. down from 50 to 45. but 45% support impeachment and removal of donald trump. i asked the producers to get this with obama, bush and clinton. we all talked about impeachment. clinton was impeached. in september 1998, 29% of people thought he should be impeached and removed from office. reminder, 45% of people think that way about donald trump. so, yes, it is down, but it is down from half the country, right? this number really never got all that high, and it rebounded back very badly on republicans. so if you are a democrat and we saw lots of moderate democrats yesterday come out in support of these impeachment articles, people in trump districts, this number and the 45% num berks that, that's a thing you'll highlight. >> thanks for your brain, cillizza. >> well, it's in there. i might as well use it. >> we'll be right back. no matter how much life pushes us around... ...she keeps us centered. love you. introd

if you think of newt gingrich, it was very much newt gingrich versus donald trump. here she was wielding her power behind the scenes, thinking about those 30 democrats in vulnerable districts, going to have a tough time getting re-elected but she also understands power, right, grew up in baltimore, seeing her father there wield power and going over to california and working her way up there as a woman, which must have been very hard. so it's been interesting to see her in this process as a woman wielding this power. >> and beyond the politics of it, i do actually think that speaker pelosi and we had a town hall in this very spot a week or two ago, i think she actually does feel the gravity of this moment and now that both of these articles of impeachment been gavelled down, let's take a moment. this has only happened two other times in the united states history. president trump has now been impeached on two articles, abuse of power and obstruction of congress and this is a stain that will forever live on his presidency when we're all long gone. 300, 400, 500 years f

my father is former speaker of the house newt gingrich, he is republican.s mitchell mentioned, he was outspoken and continues to be outspoken. i am republican, as well. clearly in a different tone. my husband's family, his grandfather was the ambassador to australia under president jimmy carter. the supporters when carter ran for governor of georgia. a very long democratic family that is very involved in politics. when we began dating and got serious and became engaged, we were quite nervous about having my father meet his family, in particular his grandmother, who was still alive then. she was the matriarch at that time of the family. and they gotgether along famously. they did not agree on politics or policy all the time, but they got along so well that my father told my grandmother in law before he made the public announcement that he would run for president, and she assured him that even know he was a republican, she would support him. your question about conversations at the dinner table, my suggestion is to be quiet and listen to the other side. you m

gingrich -- newt gingrich. what happened? >> there was a scramble to try to figure out some of rob livingston's allies tried to talk him out of it. he had made the decision to resign with some agony. because there was full on press and the democratic world. information onor any republicans involved in impeachment who had had extramarital relationships. became reported. in distractions and his own marital life. most my colleagues and especially my wife and family, i have hurt you all deeply and i beg your forgiveness. i was prepared to lead our narrow majority as eager and i do ave i had it in me to fine job, but i cannot do that fine job. >> he was not the only one. there were other house members. there was a house member who confessed to his wife, absolutely certain that it was going to be published and it never was so he had fessed up to his wife proactively, trying to head off what he thought was going to be a disaster. president clinton and his defenders knew that there were a variety of house members at the time who had

the as impeachment was playing out, newt gingrich ran ads against clinton using his behavior. then newt gingrich lost his job as speaker and bob livingston lost his job when he was trying to commit. so don't predict the power of impeachment. i just want to put up here, there's 15 house democrats we're waiting to hear their decisions. they will be very mindful of what they just heard from their congresswoman. there are 15 of them in all. when you fade them away, the ones you still see there are in districts that the president carried by four points or more. so it's a more risky decision. now, they insist they're doing this on principle, they're not doing this on politics, but politicians are politicians. >> yes, of course, that's part of the calculation. as of last friday the democratic leadership was expecting between two and six defections, but you have to sort of wonder if what we saw happen over the weekend makes moderates sort of recalculate what they're going to do. we saw jeff van drew had to switch parties because his polling in his district with democrats was so bad be

that's a question i put to newt gingrich this hour.e doesn't move forward with impeachment and the full force of all that they can bring, if she pushes too hard that she risks losing the majority this year? >> i think there is a political calculation going on here about how far to go and what not to include and what not to include. as the case been made, especially with the 31 democrats from the trump districts in 2016. and i do think that they are down the plank's pretty far on impeachment especially after this report. let me go back to obstruction and at this tweet. republicans would point out that the tweet was the president expressing himself and he wouldn't have seen the tweet had not adam schiff mentioned it in the committee hearing. democrats would say that it is to intimidate other witnesses yet to come after that point. >> i guess it will continue to be debated, and, we will be right back. to the outside world, you look good, but you don't feel good. with polycythemia vera, pv, symptoms can change so slowly over time you might

looked him up online and if all you have to judge someone by was the right left positions, he succeeded newt gingrich. he and i on the surface on a few positions but have nothing in common. but as the providence would have it, when i got here he was a trainer for a fi ethics for thew senators and to his misfortune he got assigned to be my mentor. and i began what has been an adventure that has not yet ended and i hope it never will be friendship in a companionship that has taken us through some pretty wild places. early in 2011 i was made chairman of the subcommittee on africa and johnny was the ranking member and i couldn't have asked for a better companion or partner. we did dozens of hearings on foreign aid policy, security interests on the growing role of china in africa, but then we also went and visited places. we went to molly e. and south africa and ghana. over several trips we visited aids orphanages, water purification plants. we solve th saw the terrible imf terrorism and poverty in countries like nigeria and mali but we enjoyed some good times, too. seeing the best pineapple plan

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and under the newt gingrich you can't impeach a president at christmastime rule just proclaimed on the fox news channel this week, you should know when it came time for the house to actually cast their votes on those impeachment articles, when it came time not just to introduce the articles but for the house to vote on them, those votes took place on december 19th, christmas week. they could have waited until after the christmas holiday. but why, why, why would you do that? they apparently really wanted to do it right before christmas, so much so that the house was actually called in on a saturday to take those votes. it was strange enough timing that the nbc news archive footage of the network coverage of that historic impeachment vote against president clinton is actually filed under golf because it starts with an nbc anchor named hannah storm having to break in suddenly to the network's coverage of a saturday afternoon golf match in order to announce that president clun ton clinton was being impeached ton 19th of december. >> quite an athlete in his time -- >> hello, everyone. hanna

and if all you had to judge someone by was their right-left positions, he succeeded newt gingrich. he and i on the surface, on a few positions would have nothing in common. but as luck or providence would have it, when i got here he was the trainer with barbara boxer for ethics for the new senators and to his misfortune, he got assigned to be my mentor. and i began what has been an adventure that hasn't yet ended and i hope never will. i have a friendship and companionship that's taken us to some pretty wild places. early in 2011 i was made the chairman of the subcommittee on africa and johnny was the raving member and i could not have asked for a better companion or partner. we did dozens of hearings on foreign aid policy, on security and trade interests, on the growing role of china in africa, but then we also went and visited places, widely, places both easy and hard. we went to mali and congo, to senegal, south africa and to ghana. over several trips we visited aids or fan ajs, water purification plants, and compact trips. we saw on these trips -- excuse me -- the material impa

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president clinton were set in motion, of course, but the crusading republican speaker of the house newt gingrich who now is back here to let us know that republicans at least have some sense of decency. they have some sense of the rules around what makes for a fair impeachment process and what doesn't, and frankly, christmastime is part of what you have to consider. >> and really, on the eve of christmas, it is really sad to see the dishonesty and the partisanship that the house democrats are displaying. >> when the republicans in 1998 released the draft articles of impeachment against president clinton while he was lighting the national christmas tree, it was four articles of impeachment that they released. when it came time to vote on those four articles of impeachment against president clinton, two of them were voted down, two of them failed, but two of them went ahead on very close votes. there was an article on perjury where the vote was 228 to 206. there was also an article on obstruction that passed. that one was 221 to 212 so two of the four passed. and under the newt gingrich y

first the resignation of speaker newt gingrich. bob livingston became the next in line. then what happened? alexis: there was a scramble to figure out. some of bob livingston's allies try to talk him out of it. it was interesting because he had made the decision to resign with some agony. steve: and he resigned because? alexis: he resigned because there was a full on press and the democratic world and larry flynt was asking for anyone to come forward with information about any of the republicans who were involved in impeachment who had had extramarital relations for themselves. and it became reported and he understood that larry flynt was going to publish this, that he had had indiscretions in his own marital life. >> to my colleagues, my friends and most especially to my wife and family, i have hurt you all deeply and i beg your forgiveness. i was prepared to lead our narrow majority as speaker and i believe i had it in me to do a fine job. but i cannot do that job. alexis: he was not the only there were other house members. one. there was even a house member who confes

driven by the shareholder value won't do shouldn't have won't have an interest in human rights because newt normally that means it raises costs where do you get the impression that we're seeing this government push now because the voters are demanding an improvement in conditions on the other side of the planet or because politicians think that this helps them look better well i mean i think you can say we had those historic factory tragedies in 2012 and 13 that started with a pakistani on the enterprise's fire and then you had this with smaller fire but also with $100.00 deaths and pay and bangladesh and then came the run up plaza collapse with over 1000 dead workers and i think that did shake up public. public opinion in europe and you can see that ever since then the whole topic doesn't really leave leave the 10. so you know while i'm not hopeful that the government also voluntarily will bring serious constraints to companies and business interests i do believe that right the moment there is an obvious window of opportunity that there could be an improvement in the legal situation this y

in 1998, when bill clinton was about to be impeached, newt gingrich, the speaker of the house, said this will be a big boon for republicans, make we'll get three dozen seats. as it turns out they lost about four or five. >>> people still want to litigate. he. >> i think to have any settled historical view, you have to wait about 40 or 50 years or more, because it takes that long to get access not only to some of the documents that you may not have seen at the time, but for the sort of the clouds of politics to clear away. in bill clinton's case that's particularly true when you have a wife who ran for president herself. >>> let me bring in andrea mitchell, take us back to the clinton experience. ultimately how was his presidency judged? that obviously was part of his definition. i think his character failure, the flaws that led to his perjury, his misbehavior, his infidelity, impeachment, are a permanent stain. it's going to be in the first paragraph of whatever is written about his legacy. the economic success, the decade of success really that he helped end are engender with his polici

i enjoy that woman, newt gingrich's daughter. i truly want us to stop this. quit running after what donald trump says every morning. stop this hatred. you cannot put this on us every single day. guest: thank you, barbara. young people cannot do this work without the help and ally ship of others. thank you for the work that you are doing in oklahoma. one of the things that young people stand to benefit from is we are the most diverse generation in history. the millennial generation was the most diverse generation in and nowion's history, gen z and younger are even more diverse than we are. that brings a different set of experiences, which means -- we talked about the hate and divisiveness. we have grown up with family members and neighbors who looked different than us. may come from different backgrounds than us. are just more diverse. we really stand to benefit from that into see-through hatred that is being -- host: let's talk about the generational divide in the democratic party. i want to read to you from the week.com. oldest candidate in the race is senat

it reminds me of that old movie that ronald reagan served in where the coach knew the rock -- newt rockney talked about an ailing player, george gyp and told us to win one for the gypper and johnny told us to win one for the gypper and we all left eager and inspired and eager to accomplish our goals. but that meeting showed a lot about who johnny isakson is. he's rarely the loudest voice in the room, but when he speaks, people listen. he isn't the type to pat himself on the back. he isn't afraid to work behind the scenes or let his work go unnoticed in the press, and he cares about getting results and results alone. he doesn't care who gets the credit. i believe the reason johnny isakson has been able to accomplish so much here in the senate, and he has, is his focus on building relationships. in fact, as we've heard, you'd be hard pressed to find somebody more well liked or more well respected by folks on both sides of the aisle. but i think johnny summed it up pretty well ims recently when he said it's about relationships, it's about respect, it's about motivation, and it's about getting

later on and they've been the most successful alliance in the history but not everyone is in a policy newt the thing is the alliance members just don't get along us. well as they used. the advent of donald trump s 13 lease which stopped the dynamics nato is obsolete it covers the soviet union which is no longer in existence this led to questions over whether the alliance can even survive donald trump perhaps in an effort to mollify him nato has announced a new spending projections and a new formula which will spread the costs of the alliance in central budget between its members a move that might prevent any more embarrassing trump tirades aimed at his nato partners the relationship with nato has been very good the relationship with the secretary general's been outstanding i said it was obsolete. it's no longer absolute but the truth is he's not the only potential party pooper. in october this year president emanuel mccrone of france stole the spotlight when he dubbed nato strategically braindead while questioning the validity of article 5 of its founding treaty that is the commitment to c

griff: newt gingrich will be on as well. he can reflect back on it. mitch mcconnell hold a trial without pelosi passing on the snarls i don't know. we will ask our guest. brian: meanwhile, no one is really thinking more about soldiers and the troops than americans at this hour. especially when considering we have had a war raging for 18, 19 years in afghanistan. reminder of that this morning. and american service member we have just gotten word has been killed in afghanistan. lisa: and the taliban is claiming responsibility for the attack that happened overnight. griff: mark meredith joins you live in washington with what we know so far. mark, good morning. >> good morning to you, griff. the pentagon has not released any information yet about exactly what happened. the defense department only confirming a service member was killed today in afghanistan and that officials are working to notify his or her family. as you mentioned, the taliban has claimed responsibility for the fact. they say the soldier was killed in the northern province of country did

very unpopular 29 percent favored impeachment for bill clinton the republicans went ahead with it newt got ousted bob livingston out got ousted for an affair and dennis hastert a serial child predator became the longest standing republican speaker of the house that was the upshot for the republicans and george bush got into the white house by talking a 1000 times about restoring honor and dignity to the white house against a good economy but that's what he wrote on so i'm not at all sure and you ask matt bevin the defeated governor in kentucky who asked any response to the defeated gubernatorial candidate in louisiana who were pointing to impeachment as a reason to vote for themselves and they lost they had rallies just like trump had last night with trump there and they lost so it's not at all clear to me that this is the winner that trump would tell you it is the gate i don't just attach any weight to anything he says ok let me give david the last word on the program here this is going to be nancy pelosi legacy. and show that she lost control of her caucus she has these you know thes

impeachment, it very much was sort of newt gingrich versus bill clinton. and here you have a sense that nancy pelosi doesn't want to make this about herself. she said, the times have found us. that last question, the woman asked about impeachment, this is an historic day, what do you want to be remembered for, she said she wanted to be remembered for other things, the affordable care act. so this is something, it's up to her caucus, adam schiff is obviously an important figure here, nadler has a role in this as well. she obviously wants to talk about other things that her caucus is doing like those pieces of legislation, she said 400 pieces of legislation on mitch mcconnell's desk. >> it seems that phone call was a turning point for a lot of people. gloria, how much of this process is driven by the speaker, i would imagine a lot of it because she is the leader, is she the hidden hand on a lot of this? >> i think nancy pelosi is someone who livenstens to this. remember just over a year ago people were saying nancy pelosi shouldn't be speaker, why would we h

too newt gingrich, former speaker, it turned out quite badly for him said something interesting todayand doing no is she is hoping magically some real evidence will drop out of the sky. there may be some merit to that argument. >> i don't know. i think that could, she was thinking. if she'd holds on to them there will be some court decision in her favor and something else will come forward. if there is so much urgency that the house couldn't get more evidence, what changed? what happened. why has that urgency suddenly he vap evaporated. gregg: saying well i have to know what kind of a senate trial it will be to pick the house managers who will prosecute the case. that strikes me as utterly ludicrous. it's like a prosecutor in a criminal trial saying i will decide whether to prosecute the case depending on the judge and jury i get and the rules the judge adopts. that's not how it works, is it? >> no, i don't think it is. you prosecute case you have in front of the court you have. i doubt it will matter. i think it will be the same people regardless. if you had enough to put the country

and it dove tails very nicely with the kind of politics that people like newt gingrich brought to the capitol in 1994. the win at all costs politics. you know, you talked in your earlier segment about mitch mcconnell just tossing all even, you know, saying we are 100% in lock step of this trial. it's win at all costs, ends justify the means and if that means lying through our teeth until we believe it and our constituents believe it, why not. the approval of the impeachment and how many people think he should be impeached or impeached and removed from office has also barely budged. people have been completely locked in. they believe whatever is being told to them in their informational silo or bubble or whatever they want to call it, and that's it. and they don't want to hear anything else. >> this is president also repeating what he wanted in front of reporters. watch this. >> mr. president, what exactly did you hope zelensky would do about the bidens after your phone call, exactly? >> well, i would think if they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation into the biden

. >> i was working for newt gingrich when bill clinton was impeached.re were criminal referrals in the star report. it would always dismiss over to who actually liked him. what president does is trigger people on the left with things like this to the point they get so angry we'll move off of what we talk about. and he responds personally back. it's the same mistake we made. >> it's got to by weird for all these republicans. interesting for all these republicans who spent today defending the president, though not to on his character and process. standish up for the president. to, as soon as it's done, hear him attack a widow and her dead husband. that's the guy they're defending. it is his party and that is who they are planting nair flag on and going to the -- >> jesus christ more than once in a debate compared our president to our savior. >> i don't know why they do that? >> why do they compare him to jesus? >> no. >> i have just think it's got to hurt if they have an ounce of decency. it's got to at least hurt that i just spent this coop it'll and thi

newt gingrich. and the question is this.f this does not meet the standard, if our number one go litical foe, the russian federation, assaulting a u.s. ally a democratic country, the lethal aid being withheld so thes cth thes president can get an investigation going, if that doesn't meet the standard, what possibly could? and the facts are the facts here and the facts have him dead to rights on this issue. and so what's so jarring -- and i think impeachment is terrible for the country. it's terrible. going to divide the country furpgter. but the only thing more terrible than impeachment is the idea that an american president can exist completely outside the boundaries of the constitution, completely above the law, is unfettered to do what it is he or she thinks, it including to their own great self advantage. >> the real thing i wrestle with as i watch this play out is the facts seem pretty clear to me. and i think it's obviously an abuse of power. he won the last time in a remarkable way, right? he got these 77,000 votes acr