newt gingrich former speaker of the house 00:57 "to get really big change you either have to have an overwhelming election in which one side is able to walk into office and control the house senate and white house or you have to have a collision 107 and you could say former speaker of the house newt gingrich caused the collision in 1995, as the architect of the government shutdown. the way he sees it, the benefits were worth the cost. newt gingrich/former speaker of the house we got welfare reform, we got the first spending cuts since 1981, we got four straight years of a balanced budget. there hasn't been a balanced budget since... and gingrich says there probably wouldn't have been then, without the shutdown. but much of the country was frustrated and angry.and blamed the republican party.sohow do americans see things today? [[take poll fullscreen]] a new pew research poll looked at who americans would blame should the government shut down: 39 percent would blame republicans and 36 percent would blame the obama administration. in 1995, the gap was wider with 46 percent blaming repu

let's talk about that with the "crossfire" co-hosts newt gingrich and van jones.s on abc yesterday. i'm going to play a clip of what he said about this government shutdown. >> they so badly want it to fail. can you remember a time in your lifetime when a major political party was just sitting around begging for america to fail? i don't know what's going to happen but i'll be shocked if it fails. >> he's saying the republicans and you're a republican, newt. you're begging for the country to fail. >> look, bill clinton is being bill clinton. that's totally partisan hyperbole. the republicans believe that the level of debt we're building up, the level of government centralization we're getting is, in fact, a real risk to our future. now, maybe bill clinton doesn't agree with that but i think it's typical of the exaggerated rhetoric on both sides that it can't be an argument over the facts, it has to be an assertion that this group wants america to fail. it's one thing to say they want obama care to fail. it's a big difference to say they want america to fail. >> you

this is where newt gingrich comes in.e him credit for this much, he recognized before just about anybody else in congress the potential significance of that special cable television channel, the special significance of having a channel devoted to showing everything happening on the house floor, without any commentary, without any interruption. gingrich was a total outsider back then. he was an irritant to republican leaders. an oddity, a nuisance. congress was a very different place. politics were very different. there were real authentic moderate republicans and liberal republicans. there were lots of them. gingrich took charge of a small band of conservative back benchers, and their mission was ideological, but also tactical. no more compromising with democrats. no more working with democrats, no more saying nice things about democrats. just open partisan warfare. so it was their vision and a vision that resonated powerfully with the conservative grassroots. and c-span was integral to the gingrich game plan. house rules

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. >> well, newt gingrich's relationship with the base and newt gingrich's relationship with the republicanboehner's. john boehner is subservient to his members when it came down in 1995 wasn't. the problem is when boehner says he has a plan his members are happy with, i question that. because you have two -- basically, he's decided they're going to try to get this resolution through with 218 republican votes. he's decided we're not going to get a single democratic vote. two sources of pressure now within the republican party. the first is the true believer, hard right tea party types like justin amash from michigan. >> we're coming to him later. >> mike fitzpatrick, more of a moderate from the suburbs of philly says he can't support it either. he's looking from the position of the general election. he doesn't want to be associated with a republican instigated shutdown of the government. if you lose a few votes over here and a few votes over here and only have about 12 to spare to begin with, you're good to have a hard time to get a two-way team. >> wow. josh, the markets are up today on ne

the country blames newt gingrich and republicans. and then the following year after the shutdown, that was when bill clinton had to run for re-election. and technically, bill clinton was running for re-election against republican senator bob dole. but really, it kind of felt like clinton was running against congress, against newt gingrich and his republican congress and the shutdown of the congress. bill clinton was reelected in a landslide. now it is a decade and a half later, now we have arrived again in 2008, and a new democratic president. this time the new democratic president was elected by a pretty good margin. and again, his election not only put him in charge at the white house, it brought on a period of full democratic control in washington. democrats controlling the white house and the house and the senate after the 2008 elections. and of course, that is a situation that just doesn't last very long. again, just like it happened last time, this time, president obama in the first mid-term election after he took office, the d

we talk about everything from iran to putin and newt gingrich and to bono and he just definitely handlesrything, with this kind of masterly over view which is incredibly impressive. >> i remember even -- talking about newt good rich. when gingrich was the speaker and they had two government shutdowns. they worked together and newt gingrich would go into the white house with one position and said, you know, when i emerged he had an effect on me. he clearly -- managed to convince him about some critical issues. >> you know what i think? i think bill clinton was a consummate deal maker. s it is interesting talking to him not just about the government shutdown. he went through that. they would throw everybody out of the room and just get stuff done. he talked exact there same way about vladimir putin who he had many dealings with. what was it like when it was you and him? he said, well, behind closed doors, it would get very, very heated. we would go at each other, bang, bang, bang. he said -- asked him directly, did putin ever renege on any deal he agreed one-on-one with you? and he thought

and, yes, john boehner has the same job title that tip o'neil and newt gingrich had, but nobody, nobody believes that john boehner is doing the same job that those guys did. in that nobody believes that john boehner speaks for anyone. when john boehner says republicans should do something, or that republicans are doing something, nobody believes republicans will actually do that thing. in july, he said, hey, republicans have written a farm bill. we're going to pass a farm bill. they did not pass a farm bill. in july, john boehner said, okay, now republicans have written a transportation bill. i'm in charge here. i'm in charge of the republicans in the house. and so now we are going to pass our new republican transportation bill. they did not pass their new republican transportation bill. even earlier this month, john boehner said, republicans do not want to shut down the government. he said, we republicans have drawn up a bill to kick the can down the road and fund the government. we are going to pass our fund the government bill and he brought it up and the republicans did not pass the

then he started working workinga not a moderate, newt gingrich.ublican newt gingrich led congress with a democratic presidency, bill clinton. got real reform. for example, welfare reform. >> yeah, he should take a look at that. look at the polls. we have seen the demographics, the popularity has gone down in the last couple of months. in large part, the policies haven't been working. to more precise. we haven't seen a lot of policies. to rick's point a lot of that is congress is striking stuff down. one of the policies that president obama was looking to push through was an infrastructure bill. and that would have created construction jobs. when you look at the most vulnerable demographics of the american workers it's the folks that lost their construction jobs. these are the folks that voted for obama. this would create jobs for them. >> david: even this president will say, he will give lib service to the fact it's the private sector, not the public sector that creates jobs. if you have public sector jobs you get it from somewhere. guess where it

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you and newt gingrich eventually worked it out between you. how do you get stuff done with a dysfunctional washington? >> we worked it out when he was trying to run me out of town. wi were still working together. >> and the other side of the story with newt gingrich, what he thinks will happen this time. and next generation of clintons, what chelsea clinton tells me about her future in politics. >> have you ever thought about running for high office? >> well, piers, people have been asking me that for as long as i can remember. >> and as to her mother's plans. is your mom running for president? and game night in the clinton family. who wins? >> thankfully it's a pretty equal distribution. i think otherwise -- >> plus maybe the greatest comeback in sporting history, larry ellison's oracle team usa coming from eight behind. plus a surprising message from someone who knows a thing or two about coming back. >>> the big story, countdown to shut down. many federal agencies may be forced to close down their doors october 1st. the situation not entire

newt gingrich is not a reporter, that's true." crossfire" is not a news show. that's true, too. now what gingrich and stephanie cutter and van jones and s.e. cupp are up to, just like you should know what sean hannity is up to. cnn can do better than that, starting by debating its very issue of disclosure on "crossfire." that's itor

the situation not entirely unfamiliar to newt gingrich. speak ore f the house was shut down and now the co-host of cnn's "crossfire." good to be with you. >> good to see you. >> there i was chewing the fat with bill clinton and inevitably your name came up. i want to play the full quote on what went on between you and he in a that last shutdown. listen to this. >> he knew it when he shoved me out. he was a game man. he thought -- he once said to erskine bowles the difference between us is that we'll do whatever he can and you won't do that. you think there are things you shouldn't do. and once i realize what the deal was, i let him do whatever he could and then we did business on the side. and you're laughing, but that's really -- we reached an accommodation. >> now, mr. speaker, is that how you remember things? >> well, thing we each have our own version, but there are some key things in there that tell you a lot about why the city's a bigger mess right now. when i was speaker, which was an enormous shock because we hadn't had a republica

newt gingrich is not a reporter, that's true." crossfire" is not a news show. that's true, too. w what gingrich and stephanie cutter and van jones and s.e. cupp are up to, just like you should know what sean hannity is up to. cnn can do better than that, starting by debating its very issue of disclosure on "crossfire." that's it for this edition of "reliable sources." i'll be online after the show so tweet me @brianstelter or use the #reliable. "state of the union with candy crowley" begins right now. >>> closing down the government and rolling out obama care. today, debate, division and deadlines. >> the house republicans are so concerned with appeasing the tea party they've threatened the government shutdown. >> it's the right thing to do to fund the government, avoiding the shutdown, but not to fund obama care. >> this is it. time has gone. >> a spending bill moves from the house to the senate to the house and back to the senate. legislative ping pong likely to end in a government shutdown. has anyone got a plan d? we'll ask coss

newt gingrich and mr. van jones. morning. >> good to be here. >> so we heard from senators mccain and graham, and they do care one supposition that i want you two to take on, this is the president's fault. between the red line and the process, he has put us in a bad position where we now have all bad choices. gentlemen, let's start with you. mr. gingrich, is this about the president making mistakes, or is this about a lot of concern in the world over how we perceive, given what happened in iraq? >> well, i think -- i hope the members of congress will take it seriously as what america should be about. this isn't about president obama. this is about america. and what should america be doing, what risks should america be running, what are our goals, and i thought it was very interesting to watch senator mccain and graham, who are both very strong hawks, who came out of the white house and said, you know, now we're reassured this is the beginning of a really big effort. meanwhile, you have senator leahy, who's a dove, wh

joining us, the hosts of "crossfire," van jones and newt gingrich.utin's idea, putin's op-ed in which he criticized the president for speaking of american exceptionalism? >> if you read the op-ed carefully -- >> which all of us did. >> -- it is one of the great case studies of absolute dishonesty and cynicism. this is a man whose policies killed 300,000 chechens. this is a man who invaded the independent country of georgia. this is a man whose country has been vetoing resolutions of the united nations. the idea that he would lecture us as a former kgb agent i find to be one of the more ironic moments in this entire experience. >> it's like a butcher sticking up for the bunnies all of a sudden. like wait a minute, who are you. i would rather talk about what putin has to say about exceptionalism. i think what obama has to say is important. obama has been consistent on this point. he's been criticized for not believing in the greatness of america. he actually believes that we've got cards that we can play that no other country can play. we can play a de

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joining us now, van jones and newt gingrich are here.his, newt gingrich, be what, is in '95 and '96. you remember what happened then. it was not pretty for a lot of republicans and it helped propel bill clinton to his re-election in '96. >> i don't believe that. >> you lost seats in the midterm elections in '96. >> we picked up two senate seats, lost a couple of house seats. nate silver has gone back and looked at all the data and can't find any significant change. >> but the polling numbers for president clinton were down and he did much better after the. >> they were actually falling during the shutdown. >> but after the shutdown, he went on to easily get re-elected. >> we were the first re-elected majority since 1928. >> for republicans. >> i think. >> with a smaller number of seats than you had. >> six fewer while we gained two in the senate. here's the key thing which nobody in the current generation remembers. there were 12 shutdowns under tip o'neill. suddenly it was all right for democrats to get involved in shutdowns, it was par

on the right newt gingrich.enator rand paul, who opposes a military strike on syria, and senate foreign relations chairman robert menendez, who supports a limited strike. can the president convince congress to attack syria? tonight on "crossfire." >>> welcome to "crossfire." i'm stephanie cutter on the left. >> i'm newt gingrich on the right. astonishingly, today the russians off to help round up and secure syria's chemical weapons. the syrians said yes. here's what the president told wolf blitzer. >> it is a potentially positive development. i have to say it's unlikely we would have arrived at that point where there were even public statements like that without a credible military threat to deal with the chemical weapons use inside of syria. >> the president told abc news that strikes would be, quote, absolutely, end quote, on pause if assad gives up the chemical weapons. i've heard of leading from behind, but did you ever think you would see putin bailing out president obama? >> newt, i don't know where you've

. >> the last time we had a government shutdown when bill clinton and newt gingrich squared off, it lastedor 26 days. according to the congressional budget office that shutdown shaved a half of a quarter worth of quarterly economic growth. analysts predict this time it will be worse because the economy is in worse shape. congress must raise the debt ceiling in three weeks, not raising the debt can spark immediate chaos and prompt a recession. today on twitter and facebook, we would be asking you, how would a government shutdown effect you. melissa says . . . tell us what you think by tweeting us @ali velshi and @ajmoney. joining us is a woman who has already had to close two projects and has a contingency plan in place she joins us from arlington, virginia. what are you doing to prepare and what is your business doing to prepare. >> we're delivering on our contingency plan and communicating with our employees and our clients, which is the government. >> how much of an economic hit would a government shutdown be to you. >> we're going to take a large hit as many small businesses will. so we

we remember when newt gingrich did this in the '90s and it ricochetted on him. >> which he denies. >>k it did. >> most observers did. i just spoke to him the other day -- >> how many times can we have this and maintain -- >> from his historian's perspective the democrats got the house back for a little bit not long after that. but now the republicans are back. if you look at the arc of history after 40 years of democratic rule before newt gingrich, the republicans have done pretty well. and that's a fact. did it hurt their image in the short term. and would bob dole say it -- >> back then, republicans were united. you know, in that tactic. today, we're not. most republicans are against the government shutdown despite what nancy pelosi may have said on sunday. so you know, the difference is we are airing out our dirty laundry and differences and turning it into a spectacle for everybody to see. i don't think that's the way to grow a party. it's not the way to become the dominant party. >> a research poll. the question is who is more to blame? republicans, 39, obama administration, 36,

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you and newt gingrich eventually worked it out between you.o you get stuff done in this dysfunctional washington? >> we worked it out when he was trying to run me out of town. it was a game to him. he thought, you know, he would -- he once said the difference between us is that we'll do whatever we can and you won't do that. you think there are things you shouldn't do. and once i realized what the deal was, i let him do whatever he could and then we did business on the side. and you're laughing but that's really -- we reached an accommodation. but at the time because they shut the government down twice and because they wished to hold onto their jobs, the republicans, they wanted to maintain their majority, they believed they had to show up for work and get something done. this reapportionment has created a climate particularly in the house of representatives but also in some of the states where there's basically one-party states, where they believe that they don't have to get anything done. they just believe that they have to demonize the oppo

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open the government. >> the president signs the bill the government will stay open. >> that's newt gingrichback with the roundtable including speaker gingrich and robert reich and jeff zeleny and gwen ifill. speaker gingrich the republicans, what are they going to do with this and what should they do? >> i think they should get plenty of sleep. this is the next three, four, five weeks are going to be very tense and very challenging. everyone who wants the house republicans to surrender, obama goes three times this week for partisan attack speeches and basically says i'm not going to negotiate. this isn't a dictatorship. under our constitution, there should be a period of tension and a compromise on both sides. the president said no one gets 100%. but what is he going to give up? >> this issue isn't about the affordable care act. i think the issue is whether one party in congress is going to be allowed to use the entire system of government as basically blackmail to get its way. after a law has already passed both houses of congress, has been put into law by the president. the constitutional