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for this contract as a first step towards renewing american civilization. >> during the 1980s, newt gingrichutation as someone who investigates scandal, use the media, every tool available. that's the gingrich who had his eyes set now both on president clinton but also on retaking control of the house. >> good evening. there's a seismic shift to the right in it political landscape of america tonight. >> it doesn't take a genius to see it's going republican. republican, republican. >> this is truly a wildly historic night. >> the republican victory in '94 had a shocking effect on bill clinton. because president of the united states was suddenly marginalized and newt gingrich, the speaker of the house, was the big man in town. ♪ >> last september the house republicans signed a contract with america. we signed this contract and made some promises. you elected us. and for the last 93 days we have been keeping our word. >> president clinton, republicans have dominated political debate in this country since they took over congress in january. do you worry about making sure that your voice is heard

newt gingrich there. where are we today on taxes? we'll talk to john cornyn coming up next hour about all that. my guess is, sandra, for the next three weeks or so every day we'll have a course adjustment and every morning or every afternoon or evening because everybody will try to make their point and get what they are looking for in this bill. be mindful of the adjustments as we move through this. >> sandra: see what happens and if it gets done before christmas. a bizarre battle brewing over who is in charge of a government agency. >> if the court decides to issue a temporary restraining order, order me not to come in the building i will follow the law. i'm going forward tonight and tomorrow assuming i'm here and be here until either the court or president tells me otherwise. >> sandra: mick mulvaney settling into his new job as we wait for a federal judge to decide if he gets to keep it. is the showdown more evidence how divided washington has become? >> massive volcano threatening to erupt and forces tens of thousands out of thei

former speaker of the house, fox news contributor newt gingrich.s incredible perspective. i'm making an argument tonight that 30 years of the clintons, and 30 years of smearing and slandering those women, now the reckoning of the clintons coming. they came on the national scene in 1990, 1991, and now the clintons can't do anything for the democrats anymore. as i'm looking at them as a party, i'm saying when is the day of reckoning? she took all this money from countries that abuse women, kill and persecute christians and je jews. it's kind of insulting to one's intelligence isn't it? >> that's her turning point for american culture. with going through. matt, what i've described is the age of the kardashians, where you could do anything, get away with anything. there's a fascinating book that contrasts the independent counsel and bill clinton and suggested actually that particular investigation was when virtue died in america. maybe what we begin to see happen is virtue coming back in america as people realize whether it's the extraordinary scale of

before the plan was released newt gingrich talked about how important it was to get the plan passed.ere is newt gingrich earlier today. >> i would like it to be as big as possible, but i want it to pass. how do you get the votes? >> any move at all to lessen the burden on american's tax bill is to be applauded, is it not? >> i agree with that 100%. i come from western new york. if you hold out for 100%, that's part of obstructionism and gridlock. 80% is a victory, not a defeat. david: the senate stalled, the healthcare changes. >> one of the great differences and the lesson we learned through this process is we have been working with the senate and the white house. and we are working on the same sheet of music. there will be some differences in the senate and the house bill. but we'll work them out. we have got the conversation going where we are talking with each other. we'll in the white house signing tax relief for people because they have deserve it. david: will this be retroactive for all of 2017? >> to be honest with you, i'm not as optimistic on that. there is a huge price tag

newt gingrich says change the system, and it starts with congress. all right. to win the lottery, he came to this country, and then brought 23 relatives with him. the president says that congress should just, you know, pull the plug on that thing. what do you think? >> you know, if you just applied common sense, you would realize how often donald j. trump is right and how often his critics are just stupid. listen to what you just said. this guy wins the lottery and then brings 23 relatives? the average american has no notion that's going on. what we did over the last 10 or 15 years is we bent over backwards, the germans are even worse than we are, the scandinavians are worse than we are, to commit cultural suicide and said, oh, please, let us make sure that people can come to our country from countries that are radical. but let me remind you. this is more than immigrants being radicalized. there are americans being radicalized. the santa barbara terrorist was an american, although his wife was from overseas. the orlando terrorist was an american, although his fa

the politics began a little bit earlier and it was how newt gingrich got into the leadership among the house republicans into the former speaker nobody here probably remembers and his whole thing was to make it personal, go after the president. use ken starr to help them with that endeavor. but during that whole period of time coming back to what i think we have all said with the roof blowing up or coming down we have some pretty tough times and pretty strong fights with those republicans at the time. but i think that nelson mandela said something to him and i think later wrote about this they became great friends but the president tried to understand how he couldn't have been filled with hate after he spent 27 years in a prison. and he said if i hated them they would still control me. the only way to be free is to let that go. i think the president was not happy every day he could get pretty vociferous about how he was being put upon and attacked but i think that he always just tried to get stuff done and as we were talking about this panel, i remember at the last meeting we had with

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newt gingrich saying it is a sad reflection with what's happening in america. take a listen. >> people should be pretty irritated that these guys who have a privileged life, have a privileged future, have a chance for a multimillion-dollar career in the nba are out here embarrassing america looking stupid, and doing something that's totally dumb, and i'm embarrassed for that father that he didn't have the decency to say "thank you, mr. president." i think it's a sad commentary on what's happened to america when a father being told that his son was shoplifting in china isn't really angry at his son. i mean, he ought to be grateful to the president because his son could have been in really deep trouble. liz: joining me now, the author of the book your kids are your own fault. look who's here. larry winget. good to see you, larry. >> good to see you. liz: what was your reaction to this. >> you know, i think this is a real opportunity for every parent to sit back and say what would i do? because typically right now in society what parents do when their kids do some

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the 1981 tax bill, newt gingrich was in charge of bringing democrats over and on board and contras the nicaraguan and a key part of conservative house members. but critical points along the , tradee 1986 tax bill issues, things like that. mostlyublican party was a free trade party at that time and reagan was essentially a free trader, so they were a lot they worked on the help pass house so they could pass legislation. the other thing that surprised me was his longevity, which in and of itself, a study of his life was made worth while i have to go back to henry clay or others. to find a national and political leader on the stage for as long as newt gingrich without eating president of the united states -- without being president of the united states. abraham lincoln was only on the national stage for seven years. henry clay was for some 20 odd years but newt gingrich has been a spokesman from the late 1970's up until today, advising presidents, political leaders, writing books, offense, articles, giving speeches. so that is what made his life worthy of study. that as much as anything.

i'm with newt gingrich here.ove more tax cuts than we've ever seen in history which frankly even though they been saying it we see a rate cut from 70% down to 28%. this is nowhere near that. if we can get this cut done we can get other cuts done. the growth and that is what does more. when they sit there and say we have to pay for it. still cut spending. there is two ways to do that. starve the beast of government. the economy went like that. it went up 7.4 percent. things could happen. thank you for joining us. risk and reward it starts right now. it's time to take care of our country and fight for our families. we must bring back her jobs and revealed america's cities and towns the center of the america first agenda to assure that every child in america has a future of security and hope. we are one of the highest tax nations in the world costing us millions of jobs and trillions and trillions of dollars they will restore america's competitive edge it is going to bring back

fox news contributor newt gingrich. have all of these cases, in some cases the sexual harassment cases, mistreatment of people cases. and some people admit it. and then you have instances where they do not, and we are hearing $15 million of taxpayer money was paid out by members of congress. shouldn't the american people, they don't want to pay it themselves, shouldn't we know who's money, who is paying what, where and how? >> sure. this whole thing, if you back out for a minute, this whole thing is crazy. it's a very good thing for us to explore. we are learning a lot of stuff that is a huge surprise. i don't see why if it's a personal offense -- i don't see why the taxpayers ought to pay a penny. and i think that is something to look at carefully in terms of where have the taxpayers money gone to cover up incidents look like this. but i also want to take a minute, and maybe this makes me an outlier, or somebody who is out of touch with the times. i think this is an enormous difference between harvey weinstein, who cle

newt gingrich should get tapped on the back. contract of america by bill clinton -- it was the contract with america and newt gingrich, republican. that is all i have to say. >> i would agree with the caller in some respects. however, bill clinton of you want to go back to him, newt gingrich did help bill clinton cut the deficit and eventually run surpluses. years, no first two clinton had a democratic congress and cut the budget when newt gingrich was opposing him in the congress. not for democrats, we highly three presidents, warren harding and calvin -- calvin policies andcal the federal government as a portion of gdp. of course death is piling up. deficit and that is a different thing. it is a different measure but absolutely obama increase the government and the bushes were horrible and that regard. independent. meler: thank you for hearing to her two observations. i have heard a lot of people doplain congress ought to this or that or congress does not do this or that. and a house elected has elected every two years in the

george pataki, newt gingrich, george bush, arnold schwarzenegger, judge clarence thomas? which of those are not good people? >> over a period of years, it became unfashionable, unpopular, and people were seen, and it was seen as such that good people didn't use marijuana. that was the context of that statement. >> and while sessions may not be switching his position on pot any time soon, americans are getting out ahead of him with some 64% of americans supporting legalizing marijuana for recreational use. that's according to an octo crunched some numbers saying these 15 states are likely to be next in legalizing cannabis. among the 15, connecticut, new york, illinois, new hampshire. even arizona and montana. >>> it is wednesday. let's get a check of our midweek weather with bill karins. how are we looking, bill? >> all the problems are on the west coast. the big storm continues from yesterday and the day before. this is the part two of our big event. the heaviest rains now uare in the northwest. later the rains will move into california. we have some flash flood watches.

newt gingrich do after signedpie gel? trump people say now?et's address this to gary hufbauer first. bill.: a lot of points made, obviously doesn't like it is nd thinks detrimental. he mentioned high-tech, that is what the u.s. exports. we export boeing, mri, export high -- i wouldn't take these of companiesby one which have moved and say that is it's not.l picture, host: lori wallach. guest: well, bill, first of all, clinton loved nafta, pushed hard to pass nafta. was an agreement signed by george bush, the older passed it., clinton if you look and can get it tradewatch.org, the beginning of the job losses were lower-end manufacturing, less high-tech, currently we're xporting the medical device making, the aerospace, advanced it is an ing and important factor, the biggest wages.ve trade is on want to send people to the new york times," 2004, elder challenges outsourcing, story samuelson, the economist who created modern heory of free trade economics that were all better with more free trade because on the consumer side, we all get try to stuf

former house speaker newt gingrich and a former mexican ambassador to the u.s. they discuss their experiences negotiating free trade agreements and how they see current negotiations playing out. this is an hour and a half. good afternoon everyone. welcome back from the break. we hope you enjoyed some coffee and refreshments. we had a terrific panel this morning and this afternoon's panel or earlier this afternoon and this next panel promises to be just as informational and jam packed. so i'm going to turn things over to my partner and friend former ambassador to canada, currently a member of the u.s. and global boards of dentons. and just an all around good guy. gordon. >> i hope somebody wrote that down. welcome. i'm biassed but even in the presence of my friend ambassador gary durham will claim this will be the most interesting panel of the day. and we even recruited an american to be on it. you were there playing an american i think, north american. so i'm honored to be here as the person facilitating this conversation. to my left physically but not idea logi

newt gingrich says if tax reform gets passed it will pave the way for other major agenda items. >> ifget the tax bill through the senate, they are going to get between 100 to 150 appointees approved between now and christmas. that will move judgeships, ambassadors on their jobs at a past until they leave christmas eve so a different appearance unlike the healthcare fight, this is a straightforward thing. to you want the american people to have more money for the government to have more money? republicans will come down for the government having more money. >> there is this going on, the legal battle for control of the nation's top consumer financial watchdog agency. heating up as donald trump gets to work draining the swamp. jackie, the question is who is in charge? >> reporter: who is in charge? is confusing, a power struggle that would make an episode of the apprentice seem tame. mick mulvaney named as acting director of consumer financial protection bureau versus leander english name to the same post by the agency at outgoing director richard cordray. the team firing off the first

. >> last thing they want is newt gingrich. >> especially when he says i'm willing to be the republican -- in the house. there's never good relations between that and the bush white house anyway. john is on the chief of staff made it even worse. they did not help the cause on capitol hill are the house. at one point there ban from going to capitol hill because every time they went their new enemies were created. >> there's a very selective school in the south. >> it was on economic policy. >> i never read it it's one a few books he did not publish. >> when i pointed out he said well i did have an offer to have it published. >> it seem like the ivy league's look down on him, did that create i'm sure there is some sort of things happening over that. they mention tom, he went for the oxford debate society in the 80s to debate u.s. policy toward nicaragua. in the ultraliberal students have to the debate and they voted gingrich the winner of the debate. >> it doesn't eat and how smart he was. >> he wasn't part of international groups speak that comes out. he challenge that. i think they did

it's an embarrassment for our country, newt gingrich.en. >> people should be pretty irritated these guys who have a privileged life and a privileged future, have the chance for a multi-million career in the nba are out here embarrassing america, looking stupid, and doing something that is totally dumb. i'm embarrassed for that father that he didn't have the decency to say thank you, mr. president. >> sandra: it is hard to believe. it's almost simple without it being so. it looks simple, right? the president said that the president of china was not even aware these kids were arrested over there. the president stepped in said let's bring them home. they were returned home. it's really tough to see where the father is coming from. i want to go back to rich on this. >> he should be humiliated by his son's conduct and really angry at his son for embarrassing him and his family and the country. this wasn't a one off. they stole from multiple stores and the loot was found in their bags on the bus. so look, it wasn't a violent crime but still a

to talk about and a lot of politics swirling around and great to have the speaker of the house, newt gingrichr, 111/2 minutes from where we are right now in the channel you trust for your morning news, "fox and friends" first return this. jillian: a new report revealing a contractor scamming millions of dollars from american heroes, federal audit found the healthcare alliance by $89 million. the inspector general build an improper racer collected twice from the same treatment, the target of a federal investigation denying being ms. honest with the funds. >> a preschool leg of three teachers after a church decides to give thanks way to illegal immigrants facing deportation. the active boulder kids preschool in colorado says parents are pulling their kids out over safety concerns, the church is building living quarters for immigrants seeking sanctuary, the church that will harbor nonviolent immigrants. jillian: if you are one of the many, you might not want to listen to this. rob: a newer line of phones, is that even possible? the insider scoop, i they are bigger different size? >> the new ipho

jillian: on hannity, newt gingrich went on to say he is embarrassed for love our ball. >> people shouldpretty irritated for these guys to have a privileged life, privileged future, the chance for a multimillion dollar career in the nba, out here embarrassing america, looking stupid and doing something totally done, i'm embarrassed for that father that he didn't have the decency to say thank you, mister president, i talked to my kid, getting things across to him, this is a sign of what is sick about america, people don't take response ability, they don't take accountability. trump shouldn't have said i should have left them in jail, he should have said i wish that father had been there in jail, the father who is being ungrateful. rob: the president unfairly picked on the kids who did thank him and the father is the issue. jillian: we want to know what you think about this topic as a whole. send an email to foxnews.com or on facebook or twitter as well. certainly picking up a lot of the attention. the holidays are in full swing at the white house. ♪ >> melania and her son baron welcoming

the 1981 tax bill, newt gingrich was in charge of bringing democrats over and on board and contras theicaraguan and a key part of conservative house members. but critical points along the , tradee 1986 tax bill issues, things like that. mostlyublican party was a free trade party at that time and reagan was essentially a free trader, so they were a lot they worked on the help pass house so they could pass legislation. the other thing that surprised me was his longevity, which in and of itself, a study of his life was made worth while i have to go back to henry clay or others. to find a national and political leader on the stage for as long as newt gingrich without eating president of the united states -- without being president of the united states. abraham lincoln was only on the national stage for seven years. henry clay was for some 20 odd years but newt gingrich has been a spokesman from the late 1970's up until today, advising presidents, political leaders, writing books, offense, articles, giving speeches. so that is what made his life worthy of study. that as much as anything. ho

joining me on the net is genghis newt gingrich. fox news contributor. good to see you.n mccain has been the wild card and always called the maverick. when saw thumbs down on healthcare. do you think he may say yes? >> he might. first, i think he recognizes this is a different tax bill. it's much, much better for the middle class americans. than the bush tax cuts. i think he recognizes that his party has a real life and death interest in passing this. i don't think john is a capricious person. in the end he concluded it wasn't the right procedure on obamacare. he can be stubborn once he made his mind up. but i have a feeling he might come along. i think the president has done a tremendous job to reach out and listening and working with senator mcconnell and senator collins no on obamacare. >> martha: are they changing their minds because they feel what you hinted at which is that this is -- not everybody loves this. if you look at the quinnipiac polls, 34% think they like it. 25% in some polls but they feel getting to yes is more important for thems members of the g.o.p.

. >> the 1990 law was aborted by newt gingrich and mitch mcconnell, i guess you will have later tonightsupport copperheads of immigration reform which would expand worker visas, agricultural visas, and reform family visas. i got rid of the diversity visa. i think of course we want to -- we want to look at where the individuals come from, what their family connections were, if they were still in connection with somebody who is talking to terrorists abroad. but i trust homeland security and the writing they are doing. a lot of the evidence suggests that he became radicalized elite years after he came over here. that is the hardest person to detect. >> shannon: what about the vetting process? the president tweeting tonight saying we will ramp up extreme vetting. a phrase he likes to use. what do you say about that clock smacks to go providing we do now is a year or year and a half long process. you don't just get the visa lottery, as is often called and you were here the next day. you may be selected to be able to come to united states and get a green card, become naturalized, not an immed

can work to restore work opportunities into welfare and entitlements as president clinton and newt gingrichknow entitlement reform is a position. is reform actually helping with a case like this where a guy's been accused? >> nothing helps with a case like this. in the broad brush of hup dignity that comes with work is something we can do for people to broaden opportunities. >> i'm asking you directly, do you think the president's position on this and other positions is hurting the country's moral standing? >> well, i don't think it's -- i don't think it does any good to come out and defend this guy with all this accused accusations made even though they were 40 years ago. >> i wonder if privately on -- obviously, it may be difficult for republicans to make public statements that contradict the president vehemently and in public. in private on the hill, do you hear deep concern how this race is going and the ez's endorsement and the very -- the possibility that moore might very well be seated in the senate? >> i think yao what have see and reported on is pretty accurate. nobody that i've he

charlie: the newt gingrich revolution and the conservatives that preceded it when it became a movement, like we used to say from buckley to reagan and forward, that was a movement. did that have conviction, did that have ideas? david: for sure. my mentor was william f. buckley. when i joined "the national review" in 1985 or 1984, it had a long history. we had a very cohesive movement mentality and a set of ideas that were right for that moment, in my view. the book that explains all of this is "the structure of scientific revolutions." you have a paradigm. you have this framework that seems to explain reality and over time, the facts begin to contradict the framework. and then you get somebody who comes in and smashes the paradigm and that was donald over time, the facts begin to trump. he came in and poof, the republican paradigm just collapsed. and then you get a period of competing paradigms to see what is next. trump is like -- i compared him to abby huffman. abby huffman was not a great political planner, but he was great at political theater. he used theater to expose the weaknes

correspond r respondent during the height of impeachment and the speaker over at the white house, newt gingrichadership always went. it's extraordinary and give me your assessment. >> in that case, you didn't have the president insuling them before they were to arrive at the white house. when there was always an opportunity to have a real dialogue about how we can forge a path that makes sense, that is good. if the president is unprepared to do that and wants to turn it into a political show, we don't want to play that game. >> isn't it critically important to be a dialogue to avert a government shut down in early december when spending runs out? you need cooperation to achieve that. even if the president does snub and insult the democratic leadership, shouldn't they rise above that and say we have bigger issues to deal with. we have to deal with the leadership and the country cannot afford a government shut down. >> we can't. if they are determined to shut down the government, this is a good way to do it. when the president is ready for that, the leadership is ready to engage. we have been sen

scandal to sweep democrats out of power and seize back control of the senate led by with help of newt gingrich. can republicans, who knows what more what other shoes that are going to drop in this secret slush fund to settle sexual harassment and discrimination charges? do you think republicans can capitalize on it to maybe keep control in the midterm? >> vince: well there's an appetite to get control of this and it's the reason donald trump became president of the united states. to drain the swamp thinking. the idea being look, there's a slush fund. currently dedicated to protecting elites from sexual harassment allegations and other harassment allegations that's being paid out by taxpayer money all of that is a very thing animated very tipped off to get them to people who will change that and right that ship and demand transparency and demand people who need to be held th ible are in a way that punishes them. >> liz: talk about draining the swamp they keep talking about yes we're transparent the voters can see and know what we're doing but we don't have secret slush funds like this, so vince

challenge of women sexually harassed in the work place and craig discuss life a political career of newt gingrichin the come weeks on afterwards daily caller news foundation editor in chief christopher bedford will explore leadership skills of president trump. christopher scalia son of the late supreme court justice antonin scalia share selection from his father's speeches. "new york times" best sell author will report on work of her grandfather manhattan project scientist james brian. and this weekend on afterwards fbiing agent tamer detail his experiences fighting terrorism as a muslim american. >> to have a -- was or is a brilliant scientist, iq off the charts under precipice curing infectious diseases and he goes from that -- to being able to be such a gift to humanity. in two years time in less than two years time ends up one step from leader of al qaeda and that story,s fascinates me because of the fact that i'm a counterterrorism operative but i think the world should understand why he did what he did. how he did what he did. and i think that's the deep dive and it's first accept for all o

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newt gingrich it cost him speakership.f people who went after him looked too aggressive and end up boomer ranking on republicans. the american people had a different mind set too. is that fair, mark? >> i think a lot of the american people just didn't want to hear about it. i mean, there were a lot of phrases in the air that i think carefully about bringing up. and people. >> brian: what the meaning of is and what is. and we don't want to fill in the gaps necessarily there but that permeated through the primary school system. >> that's right. and i think a lot of people just actually wanted to put their hands over their ears and say nah, nah can't hear you. the democrats in that sense -- the lesson learned was that if you brazen it out. you will succeed. and that brazening had consequences all the way to last year's elections. >> brian: right. >> because the only reason hillary clinton was a presidential candidate is because of the deal she did with bill clinton in 1998 and 1999 that if she didn't do what most self-respect

not like newt gingrich understanding truck. ." d "the art of the deal he is here to make deals. that is all the more reason he needs lots of lawyers around them. betweene any difference bill clinton being impeached and donald trump today being investigated gorsuch is not a comparison? -- being impeached and donald trump today being investigated, or is it not a comparison. >> one of the fascinating things we now understand about the strategic decision made by president clinton in 1998 was the revelations of this relationship, get worse, by his , who had advised the president. he helped orchestrate the reelection campaign and 1996. so the president is chatting with him, this is all according -- what did you do and so forth. in so he posed, morris posed to questions in the overnight call. will the american people forgive annexed extramarital relationship? the answer was yes. will the american people forgive perjury? "no." wer was very interesting. when the entire episode unfolded, it became clear there were these serious questions. there was a huge bipartisan cry for the president

. >> it used to be if you look at newt gingrich rich or bob pack woord or anthony weiner the court ofublic opinion would say under no circumstances. there are several examples in the past where someone has been accused of sexual harassment or sexual assault or preying on teenagers or preying on even little boils with mark foley in the early 2000s where public opinion would say enough is enough. the question here is whether or not public opinion is going to be that high when it comes to a representative conyers or roy moore. >> the other question, what is mitch mcconnell or paul ryan going to do, robert? >> i think mcconnell is figuring here that he is knots going to tolerate this. in the end, to be fair to mcconnell he has been consist t consistent. what i believe mcconnell is flirting with is sendure or expulsion from the senate, clearly within their jurisdiction. i can't speak for speaker ryan. >> national organizations have come out against roy moore, condemned him, saying he should of the not be serving in the senate. talking about potentially expelling him. the president and the

everyone from newt gingrich on down bragged about how wonderful he is and how he has an unimpeachable sense of character and duty. ten years fbi director. everybody. and then now, as he is getting closer and closer to things they may not want, all of a sudden now bob mueller is the enemy. it's insane. there was an interview yesterday on another network with kellyanne conway where she would refuse to acknowledge the seriousness of what's going on and spread misinformation about this dossier which bret just explained. we all know there have been parts that are accurate. and they are continuing to put out this fake news, fake news to deceive people and deflect from what's really going on. the paul manafort situation is very serious. this guy has been one of the most unethical lobbyists in washington circles for decades. and the fact that he -- his name is in a black book in the ukrainian party of region and $18 million in cash payments. we don't know where that is. money going through cypriot banks. what's going on with real estate transactions in new york. even if trump wanted to pardon